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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Look I hate trust fund kids . I've known plenty in my time and they made my life miserable . They are now working in dead end jobs because mum and dad said enough mooching and start working . These guys are in their forties ffs Blame the parents and not the amount of money they have. These are two different things. And what about the people who blows all their money on gambling or drugs and don't have enough money to put food on the table for their family? These people are much worse than the ones setting up their kids for life with a trust fund. Edited by SocaWho: 25/8/2014 12:21:34 AM
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Eastern Glory
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Look I hate trust fund kids . I've known plenty in my time and they made my life miserable . They are now working in dead end jobs because mum and dad said enough mooching and start working . These guys are in their forties ffs Yeah fair enough we all have our different experiences with different sorts of people. I think it's a shame when people let money rule their lives. The way I see it, the more you worry about controlling your money, the more money controls you. It's not easy to balance it out, but I'm super lucky to have a fantastic example for this.
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Roar #1
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Eastern Glory wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Roar #1 wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:You want your kids to become self obsessed ? And trust fund kids? That's gonna end up either your kids not knowing the value of hard work and the dollar and they end up hating you . If this is in reference to my comment, I was making a "the office" reference, it was one of Steve Carrells many great one liners :lol: And TBH id love for my kids to be trust fund babies. because it would mean I've accomplished my goals and made a shit load of money. Again does that teach them the value of mo eg?? That comes down to parenting and setting an example of how to use money. I'm lucky enough to have an old man who sets an unreal example money wise. He's worked his arse off for 30 years and has made a hell of a lot of money, but he doesn't care about it. Gives a huge percentage of it away and chooses not to live lavishly. Modest home, modest suburb, modest cars ect. I know I'll never make anything close to what he has (a teacher compared to a high level exec) but at least I know how to treat money should I unexpectedly have money in the future. I'm in the relatively same position, and tbh if my dad gave what he has away I'd be pissed :lol: Edited by roar #1 : 25/8/2014 12:04:56 AM In a very selfish way it is frustrating, but it's what he's worked for and he has every right to do with it what he wills and I know giving money to those who need it beings him endless joy. It's not that he doesn't spend it, we've done our fair share of traveling, but he is definitely somebody who likes having money in the bank, don't know what's he's saving for though
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Carlito
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Roar #1 wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Roar #1 wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:You want your kids to become self obsessed ? And trust fund kids? That's gonna end up either your kids not knowing the value of hard work and the dollar and they end up hating you . If this is in reference to my comment, I was making a "the office" reference, it was one of Steve Carrells many great one liners :lol: And TBH id love for my kids to be trust fund babies. because it would mean I've accomplished my goals and made a shit load of money. Again does that teach them the value of mo eg?? That comes down to parenting and setting an example of how to use money. I'm lucky enough to have an old man who sets an unreal example money wise. He's worked his arse off for 30 years and has made a hell of a lot of money, but he doesn't care about it. Gives a huge percentage of it away and chooses not to live lavishly. Modest home, modest suburb, modest cars ect. I know I'll never make anything close to what he has (a teacher compared to a high level exec) but at least I know how to treat money should I unexpectedly have money in the future. I'm in the relatively same position, and tbh if my dad gave what he has away I'd be pissed :lol: Edited by roar #1 : 25/8/2014 12:04:56 AM In a very selfish way it is frustrating, but it's what he's worked for and he has every right to do with it what he wills and I know giving money to those who need it beings him endless joy. It's not that he doesn't spend it, we've done our fair share of traveling, but he is definitely somebody who likes having money in the bank, don't know what's he's saving for though For a rainy day . One day he could lose it all and have nothing . So he keeps in the Bank to one day maybe you can have it Edited by mvfcarsenal16.8: 25/8/2014 12:22:51 AM
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Roar #1
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Roar #1 wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:You want your kids to become self obsessed ? And trust fund kids? That's gonna end up either your kids not knowing the value of hard work and the dollar and they end up hating you . If this is in reference to my comment, I was making a "the office" reference, it was one of Steve Carrells many great one liners :lol: And TBH id love for my kids to be trust fund babies. because it would mean I've accomplished my goals and made a shit load of money. Again does that teach them the value of mo eg?? That comes down to parenting and setting an example of how to use money. I'm lucky enough to have an old man who sets an unreal example money wise. He's worked his arse off for 30 years and has made a hell of a lot of money, but he doesn't care about it. Gives a huge percentage of it away and chooses not to live lavishly. Modest home, modest suburb, modest cars ect. I know I'll never make anything close to what he has (a teacher compared to a high level exec) but at least I know how to treat money should I unexpectedly have money in the future. I'm in the relatively same position, and tbh if my dad gave what he has away I'd be pissed :lol: Edited by roar #1 : 25/8/2014 12:04:56 AM In a very selfish way it is frustrating, but it's what he's worked for and he has every right to do with it what he wills and I know giving money to those who need it beings him endless joy. It's not that he doesn't spend it, we've done our fair share of traveling, but he is definitely somebody who likes having money in the bank, don't know what's he's saving for though For a rainy day . One day he could lose it all and gave nothing . So he keeps in the Bak to one day maybe you can have it I know but at some point, very soon he could afford to not worry about the rainy day and just live now. And I can't see a scenario where he would loose it all. He could afford to retire tomorrow and still maintain his current lifestyle.
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Carlito
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That's the problem of the youth today . Live now forget tomorrow .
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Eastern Glory
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:That's the problem of the youth today . Live now forget tomorrow . Bit harsh mate :lol: He's talking about a situation he knows well and none of us know at all...
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:That's the problem of the youth today . Live now forget tomorrow . What's wrong with that? He could lose it all tomorrow (which could only happen if he literally bet the house on something) and within another year of working could have more in the bank then a lot of people. My way of seeing it is he could be hit by a bus next week and all of that saving would have been for nothing.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:That's the problem of the youth today . Live now forget tomorrow . And personally, I live so far from that thinking it's not funny :lol: I don't drink alcohol, don't hook up with randoms, have never got into a fight with a guy who looked at me the wrong way, I don't speed in my car. And by that description some would say a boring life :lol: but ive done a lot of things people my age haven't so it balances out
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Eastern Glory wrote:notorganic wrote:I plan on giving my daughter a significant chunk of money via trust on her 21st birthday, or split evenly if we end up with more kids.
My job is to keep it a secret from her until then, grow it as much as possible, and teach her how not to be a vapid shitkunt of a human being so that she doesn't become the next Paris Hilton. Out of interest, why 21st? As a 21 year old, I know I'd love to have a chunk of inheritance now, but when I have time to think about it, I realise I'd be better off with money later when I've had a bit more time to sort out the course of my life in terms of career, family and financially. I think 21 is right in terms of age/experience. 18 is too young, because all she will have experienced at that stage is school. I may revise to be until after she has finished uni if that's the way she chooses to go. As for some poor bloke having me as a father in law, it may be some poor lass instead.
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SocaWho
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notorganic wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:notorganic wrote:I plan on giving my daughter a significant chunk of money via trust on her 21st birthday, or split evenly if we end up with more kids.
My job is to keep it a secret from her until then, grow it as much as possible, and teach her how not to be a vapid shitkunt of a human being so that she doesn't become the next Paris Hilton. Out of interest, why 21st? As a 21 year old, I know I'd love to have a chunk of inheritance now, but when I have time to think about it, I realise I'd be better off with money later when I've had a bit more time to sort out the course of my life in terms of career, family and financially. I think 21 is right in terms of age/experience. 18 is too young, because all she will have experienced at that stage is school. I may revise to be until after she has finished uni if that's the way she chooses to go. As for some poor bloke having me as a father in law, it may be some poor lass instead.  Is your daughter's boyfriend called Greg? :lol: Edited by SocaWho: 25/8/2014 11:37:36 AM
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Carlito
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Don't think notor ' s daughter is going to date for a while :lol:
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notorganic wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:notorganic wrote:I plan on giving my daughter a significant chunk of money via trust on her 21st birthday, or split evenly if we end up with more kids.
My job is to keep it a secret from her until then, grow it as much as possible, and teach her how not to be a vapid shitkunt of a human being so that she doesn't become the next Paris Hilton. Out of interest, why 21st? As a 21 year old, I know I'd love to have a chunk of inheritance now, but when I have time to think about it, I realise I'd be better off with money later when I've had a bit more time to sort out the course of my life in terms of career, family and financially. I think 21 is right in terms of age/experience. 18 is too young, because all she will have experienced at that stage is school. I may revise to be until after she has finished uni if that's the way she chooses to go. As for some poor bloke having me as a father in law, it may be some poor lass instead. I have a friend who her parents did similar, kind of. They saved up $20k for each child (ended up having 4 girls) and on their 20th (no idea why 20th) birthdays the girls were given the $20k to spend how they please. The thing is - the parents have made it a well-known fact that they won't be chipping in for the girls weddings if they choose to get married - so the girls basically had the choice of saving it for a house, saving it for a wedding, or spending it how they chose. So 2 of the girls spent their $20k on European adventures, the other 2 are yet to receive it but I'm sure the closest one will waste it, and I'm not sure what the youngest will do.
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I'd be doing a scholarship style trust to put my kids through Uni. -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:I'd be doing a scholarship style trust to put my kids through Uni.
-PB Why would you bother with that? Just get one of your supporters to give them scholarships #endOfEntitlement
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Don't think notor ' s daughter is going to date for a while :lol: Probably dovetails into the response to pv4's question in AATRPA, but will address a little bit here. I'm not opposed to the idea of her dating when she feels it's right for her. I can't protect her for the world, but I can prepare her for it. I can teach her how to think and to identify her feelings/senses so that she's making decisions accordingly. If I do my job right, I won't have to worry about her boyfriends. Edit: or girlfriends, but I'm pretty sure she's straight. Edited by Notorganic: 25/8/2014 03:42:21 PM
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notorganic wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Don't think notor ' s daughter is going to date for a while :lol: Probably dovetails into the response to pv4's question in AATRPA, but will address a little bit here. I'm not opposed to the idea of her dating when she feels it's right for her. I can't protect her for the world, but I can prepare her for it. I can teach her how to think and to identify her feelings/senses so that she's making decisions accordingly. If I do my job right, I won't have to worry about her boyfriends. Edit: or girlfriends, but I'm pretty sure she's straight. Edited by Notorganic: 25/8/2014 03:42:21 PM How old is she?
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3 :lol:
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Oh :lol: probs a little early to worry about dating, and wether or not she is straight for that matter :lol:
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I'm not worried, I'm preparing. She's in her formative years now. I just say that I'm going pretty sure she's straight because of what I've observed, but it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if she was gay or somewhere else on the queer spectrum.
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notorganic wrote:I'm not worried, I'm preparing. She's in her formative years now. I just say that I'm going pretty sure she's straight because of what I've observed, but it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if she was gay or somewhere else on the queer spectrum. Oh well....at least you wont be like this guy. :lol: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/cecil-chao-offers-147-million-to-the-man-who-will-marry-his-lesbian-daughter-gigi-chao/story-fnet09p2-1226809340908Quote:A HONG KONG tycoon may double a "marriage bounty" to find a male suitor for his gay daughter to US$130 million ($147 million), despite his initial offer attracting 20,000 candidates, a report said. Two years ago, wealthy property developer Cecil Chao made global headlines by offering a reward of HK$500 million ($73.63 million) to any man who could persuade daughter Gigi to marry. He is now considering increasing his offer, a report in a Malaysian financial publication said. The 77-year-old tycoon "hinted this figure could be doubled (to HK $1 billion) if someone could capture her heart", The Edge said. "I don't want to interfere with my daughter's private life. I only hope for her to have a good marriage and children as well as inherit my business," Chao told the publication. But this fresh attempt at a financial sweetener for any man who can win Gigi's heart has left her upset and her female partner of nine years Sean Eav "distraught", the South China Morning Post said.
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notorganic wrote:I'm not worried, I'm preparing. She's in her formative years now. I just say that I'm going pretty sure she's straight because of what I've observed, but it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if she was gay or somewhere else on the queer spectrum. Are you of the opinion one is born gay, choose to be gay or somewhat learn to be gay as they get older?
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I believe that for the most part humans don't choose their sexuality.
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notorganic wrote:I believe that for the most part humans don't choose their sexuality. Ok, I agree with that.
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SocaWho
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notorganic wrote:I believe that for the most part humans don't choose their sexuality. As in their DNA chooses it for them?
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SocaWho wrote:notorganic wrote:I believe that for the most part humans don't choose their sexuality. As in their DNA chooses it for them? I don't know the exact process, but recent research seems to suggest that it's genetic... So choice would be the incorrect word to use.
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SocaWho wrote:notorganic wrote:I'm not worried, I'm preparing. She's in her formative years now. I just say that I'm going pretty sure she's straight because of what I've observed, but it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if she was gay or somewhere else on the queer spectrum. Oh well....at least you wont be like this guy. :lol: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/cecil-chao-offers-147-million-to-the-man-who-will-marry-his-lesbian-daughter-gigi-chao/story-fnet09p2-1226809340908Quote:A HONG KONG tycoon may double a "marriage bounty" to find a male suitor for his gay daughter to US$130 million ($147 million), despite his initial offer attracting 20,000 candidates, a report said. Two years ago, wealthy property developer Cecil Chao made global headlines by offering a reward of HK$500 million ($73.63 million) to any man who could persuade daughter Gigi to marry. He is now considering increasing his offer, a report in a Malaysian financial publication said. The 77-year-old tycoon "hinted this figure could be doubled (to HK $1 billion) if someone could capture her heart", The Edge said. "I don't want to interfere with my daughter's private life. I only hope for her to have a good marriage and children as well as inherit my business," Chao told the publication. But this fresh attempt at a financial sweetener for any man who can win Gigi's heart has left her upset and her female partner of nine years Sean Eav "distraught", the South China Morning Post said. If the female partner gets a sex change, then she'll make a billion dollars.
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Carlito
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And I must say she is a little cutie . My oldest kidling wants to meet yours . Maybe this time I won't smash my wife's car :lol: or you go to the wrong ground
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Eastern Glory
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notorganic wrote:SocaWho wrote:notorganic wrote:I believe that for the most part humans don't choose their sexuality. As in their DNA chooses it for them? I don't know the exact process, but recent research seems to suggest that it's genetic... So choice would be the incorrect word to use. Alright, just to test the waters here... Does anyone have any percentage on homosexual men having an absent father? I haven't seen many studies, but in my experience, it's pretty high. I'm not saying its necessarily choice to be attracted to men, but there must be factors that impact on their decision to embrace their homosexuality and for example, become quite flamboyant. I'm not saying all gay men are flamboyant, but lets be honest, generally you can pick gay men.
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Eastern Glory wrote:notorganic wrote:SocaWho wrote:notorganic wrote:I believe that for the most part humans don't choose their sexuality. As in their DNA chooses it for them? I don't know the exact process, but recent research seems to suggest that it's genetic... So choice would be the incorrect word to use. Alright, just to test the waters here... Does anyone have any percentage on homosexual men having an absent father? I haven't seen many studies, but in my experience, it's pretty high. I'm not saying its necessarily choice to be attracted to men, but there must be factors that impact on their decision to embrace their homosexuality and for example, become quite flamboyant. I'm not saying all gay men are flamboyant, but lets be honest, generally you can pick gay men. The point about absent dads is interesting. I guess it may have more of an impact if the dad is absent from early on in the sons life rather then say 13/14. Now that I think about it there is one boy I used to coach in U15's who is gay ( im 95% sure) and his father left very early on. " there decision to embrace their homosexuality" I think its more the fact that they have had enough of pretending to be something they arent. And TBH in Australia today I dont think its as easy to pick out the gay guy as it was say 10 years ago. The way fashion has gone in recent times in Australia, what would have been considered a "gay" shirt 10 years ago is now just fashonable. We are a very metro society. As a young Aussie guy in America and Canada a couple of months ago, I dressed pretty "gay" by their standards, but its just whats in fashion here :lol: lets just say its still fashionable to wear shorts that go well below the knee over there :lol:
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