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u4486662 wrote:
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Don't forget the Australian gov censored wiki leaks. Joining the likes of china and UAE to do so. Great list of countries to be apart of.

Yes agree. The internet should not be censored.


lol
werent you one who called for my banning too?
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no risk society = stasi state

a few here seem to be advocating the virtues of that.
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Roar #1 wrote:
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Well I gave 2 anecdotal cases were if the NSA was more pinpoint in their targeting should've been able to catch. But it's also well documented it's overall pretty useless

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The review found that the NSA’s bulk collection of Americans’ phone metadata, justified under the Patriot Act, was responsible for initiating investigations in only four of the 225 cases detailed by the New America Foundation and that none of those four prevented attacks.


http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/1/13/review-finds-nsametadatacollectionhasntstoppedanattack.html


It's ok government, I know you spent a lot of money on this and failed, but you'll do better in the future

It's like you're trying to prove my initial point that Australians love the nanny state.

Meanwhile the only bit of evidence you provided that Americans are dumb and brainwashed is there are Obama posters everywhere (which there aren't) and that jersey shore exists.


I didnt write that :lol:

But who did? :-k
Was just translating basically what you said.

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And there is a big Obama portrait hanging at LAX

That's one not everywhere. And I couldn't find it online so I can't verify it.
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ricecrackers wrote:
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rubbish
some people are just actually interested in history.

No doubt. And that's going to show across a prolonged internet history. If you're visiting sites about converting to islam or western motivated terrorism you're probably going to raise some alarm bells, but otherwise there's not really anything to worry about is there?


so converting to islam is an indicator of a terrorist threat now is it?
wow your bigotry is neverending

That's "islam or western motivated terrorism" not "islam, or western motivated terrorism".

Wow. Your illiteracy is never-ending.
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No, it proves they collect too much and because of that they are useless at preventing imminent attacks.

That's why some 60 attacks on US soil have been thwarted since 9/11.


comma or no comma, it doesn't make a difference
you used an 'or'

its quite obvious what you meant

Obvious to everyone but you. The oxford comma - learn what it is.
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afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
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ricecrackers wrote:
rubbish
some people are just actually interested in history.

No doubt. And that's going to show across a prolonged internet history. If you're visiting sites about converting to islam or western motivated terrorism you're probably going to raise some alarm bells, but otherwise there's not really anything to worry about is there?


so converting to islam is an indicator of a terrorist threat now is it?
wow your bigotry is neverending

That's "islam or western motivated terrorism" not "islam, or western motivated terrorism".

Wow. Your illiteracy is never-ending.
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No, it proves they collect too much and because of that they are useless at preventing imminent attacks.

That's why some 60 attacks on US soil have been thwarted since 9/11.


comma or no comma, it doesn't make a difference
you used an 'or'

its quite obvious what you meant

Obvious to everyone but you. The oxford comma - learn what it is.


you didnt use a comma, you used an 'or' as in this or that,
one or the other

you attempts to deflect your bigotry are futile and you dont speak for everyone else despite your obvious delusions of grandeur


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I suppose it would be of little surprise that afrodope doesnt understand the meaning of the most basic logic connectives given he doesnt understand basic logic however I think in this case its quite clear what his intention was



Edited by ricecrackers: 28/8/2014 10:44:14 PM
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Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.


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433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts
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433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.


They kind of have a limited number of household applications.
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Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.
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u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements
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ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements


Jog on dick head.

And what sweeping statements were made ?
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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements


Jog on[size=9] dick head. [/size]

And what sweeping statements were made ?


sweeping statements about machines guns laying around the house
this is just false and clouds the entire discussion

do you feel better to call me by obscenity? got some anger management issues there son?
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ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.
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afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI
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ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements


Jog on[size=9] dick head. [/size]

And what sweeping statements were made ?


sweeping statements about machines guns laying around the house
this is just false and clouds
the entire discussion

do you feel better to call me by obscenity? got some anger management issues there son?


Thats a sweeping statement? wow yeah you are right, better hold back with my wild accusations :roll:
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ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI


An AK 47 is both semi auto and auto


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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements


Jog on[size=9] dick head. [/size]

And what sweeping statements were made ?


sweeping statements about machines guns laying around the house
this is just false and clouds
the entire discussion

do you feel better to call me by obscenity? got some anger management issues there son?


Thats a sweeping statement? wow yeah you are right, better hold back with my wild accusations :roll:


better you hold back on speaking for someone else when that someone else is making false statements
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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI


An AK 47 is both semi auto and auto



you cant buy full auto AK47s wikipedia expert
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ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI


An AK 47 is both semi auto and auto



you cant buy full auto AK47s wikipedia expert


Ok just move the goal posts to make yourself seem right, you said the Ak47 is semi auto, and it is in fact also fully auto, so you were wrong. :oops:
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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI


An AK 47 is both semi auto and auto



you cant buy full auto AK47s wikipedia expert


Ok just move the goal posts to make yourself seem right, you said the Ak47 is semi auto, and it is in fact also fully auto, so you were wrong. :oops:


you're the one moving the goalposts
you can purchase a semi auto AK47 as a civilian. not a full auto.

machine guns arent laying around the homes among the civilian population of the USA

you really dont know what you're talking about
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ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI


An AK 47 is both semi auto and auto



you cant buy full auto AK47s wikipedia expert


And yes you can, just not new ones
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ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI


An AK 47 is both semi auto and auto



you cant buy full auto AK47s wikipedia expert


Ok just move the goal posts to make yourself seem right, you said the Ak47 is semi auto, and it is in fact also fully auto, so you were wrong. :oops:


you're the one moving the goalposts
you can purchase a semi auto AK47 as a civilian. not a full auto.

machine guns arent laying around the homes among the civilian population of the USA

you really dont know what you're talking about


What if I said Assualt Rifles laying around the house, would that change things :roll: is that more acceptable
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ricecrackers wrote:
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Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
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Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI

The Bushmaster M4 Type Carbine (a model of AR-15) is a fully automatic rifle. It can be purcahsed Here. However Bushmaster require you to have a valid gun licence and adhere to state laws for your purchase to be accepted.
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afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI

The Bushmaster M4 Type Carbine (a model of AR-15) is a fully automatic rifle. It can be purcahsed Here. However Bushmaster require you to have a valid gun licence and adhere to state laws for your purchase to be accepted.


Thats cheap. ill take 3 thankyou.
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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI


An AK 47 is both semi auto and auto



you cant buy full auto AK47s wikipedia expert


And yes you can, just not new ones


what are you going to do, go to every house in the country and seize the old ones?
the law prohibits selling them new and importing them, what else are you going to do about it?

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ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI


An AK 47 is both semi auto and auto



you cant buy full auto AK47s wikipedia expert


And yes you can, just not new ones


what are you going to do, go to every house in the country and seize the old ones?
the law prohibits selling them new and importing them, what else are you going to do about it?


Again move the goal posts, You said you cant buy fully auto Ak47's when infact you can. :oops:

Maybe you are the one who should check his facts before posting, you making yourself look like an idiot :oops:
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ricecrackers wrote:
you're the one moving the goalposts
you can purchase a semi auto AK47 as a civilian. not a full auto.

machine guns arent laying around the homes among the civilian population of the USA

you really dont know what you're talking about

Uh...you can't purchase AK-47's as a US Civilian because they're a Soviet produced weapon and the only people who import them are arms dealers.
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afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
433 wrote:
Back on topic...

Why do people have to justify the need of having a gun? It's a constitutional right - people are entitled to own a gun if they wish to do so.



But does anyone really need an Ak47 or AR-15 laying around the house ?

I think its the ease in which someone can obtain a military grade weapon that is the issue and then also the complete lack of monitoring in some parts

Exactly.

A machine gun has one purpose: to kill humans. That's the only thing it's designed for. It has no place in the hands of a civilian.


neither of these guns are machine guns
would help if you knew what you were talking about before making such sweeping statements

They're an Automatic Rifle which continues to fire until the clip is empty. By definition, they're a machine gun.


wrong, they're semi automatic
you can only buy semi autos

again you have NFI

The Bushmaster M4 Type Carbine (a model of AR-15) is a fully automatic rifle. It can be purcahsed Here. However Bushmaster require you to have a valid gun licence and adhere to state laws for your purchase to be accepted.


1. its not an AR-15 and
2. the same conditions apply regarding automatic variants
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Ricey you "seem" to know about guns, thinking about shooting up a local school ?
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