A-League expansion on the agenda in time for the 2017-18 season


A-League expansion on the agenda in time for the 2017-18 season

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Expansion of the A-League to a 12-team competition remains the ultimate goal of the Football Federation of Australia but that will largely hinge on the off-field success of the new season and the crucial support from broadcast partners.

Season 10 of the A-League could prove to be the most critical yet as its ability to maintain the viewer, spectator and membership growth of recent years will prove influential for the future in the toughest sporting market.

The head of the A-League, Damien De Bohun, says the groundwork for expansion will begin early this season when the FFA opens talks with broadcast partners over funding of a 12-team competition involving six televised games a week.
"We're expecting continued growth, we're pushing forward into the mainstream, which is very important": Damien de Bohun.

"We're expecting continued growth, we're pushing forward into the mainstream, which is very important": Damien de Bohun. Photo: James Boddington

While there will be no new team entering the league until the expiration of the TV-deal following the 2016-17 season, official talks will begin before the end of the year with broadcast partners Fox Sports and SBS, as well as other interested parties.

The FFA has a strong desire to expand the competition, though their ability to do so strongly relies on broadcast partners to fund a competition that could last 33 rounds with six games a week. As such, the importance of further improving TV ratings, attendances and memberships within the league will become the governing body's priority this season.

"This is a critical year," De Bohun said at Fox Sports A-League launch. "We're expecting continued growth, we're pushing forward into the mainstream, which is very important."

On the eve of a season many hope signals the arrival of the A-League into adulthood, the FFA insist the game has not completed its formative years as the task of building the its framework continues to be the main focus of the FFA.

Improving audiences, memberships, attendances and sponsorships remain the key targets for the FFA in a season that could prove to be one of the most definitive. Increasing those four key areas could serve as the platform for expansion and a 12-team competition that could coincide with the arrival of the next TV-deal at the earliest point in time.

"We've got a very clear commitment until 2017 with our current broadcast rights," De Bohun said. "It is really important to have that stability and the continuity but at the same time, in the coming months we will have discussions about future broadcasts. Fox Sports have been incredible partners of the Hyundai A-League and obviously SBS 1 broadcasting this year, too. As we'll sit down with broadcasters like them and potentially others, we'll start to assess whether an additional two teams and one more game per week will be valuable in a commercial sense and if it is, we'll look at it seriously."

Already the A-League is expecting a landmark season in terms of interest as memberships are on target to increase by up to 15 per cent across the competition, matching the FFA's expectations of more than 2 million supporters through the turnstiles. A move of the A-League from SBS 2 to SBS 1 for live Friday night games will likely provide some improvement in free-to-air audience figures.

Already there are positive signs for the game in what is poised to be a pivotal year in the plan to expand. The momentum of fan interest has never been higher after the bounce-on effect of last year's World Cup, maintained by the FFA Cup, Asian Champions League and now to the A-League. If it can be sustained and attract more than the rusted-on viewers, it may open the door for two new teams.

"There's no doubt as the league continues to grow, it's something we need to contemplate," De Bohun said.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/aleague-expansion-depends-on-success-of-new-season-20141003-10q01m.html#ixzz3F59SbUoU

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Wollongong, Canberra. Done.

Prepare for Brisbane Team 2 & Regional Victoria/3rd Melbourne for 13/14, then hit Tasmania and a second Adelaide team for 15 & 16, Penrith & Campbelltown for 17 & 18. Let Gold Coast, North Queensland, a 2nd NZ and a 4th Victorian side fight out the rest of the spots.
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Would be stoked with nearly any expansion as long as it's not something half arsed like Wollongong sharing a team with south Sydney.

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macktheknife wrote:
Wollongong, Canberra. Done.

Prepare for Brisbane Team 2 & Regional Victoria/3rd Melbourne for 13/14, then hit Tasmania and a second Adelaide team for 15 & 16, Penrith & Campbelltown for 17 & 18. Let Gold Coast, North Queensland, a 2nd NZ and a 4th Victorian side fight out the rest of the spots.


We'll have to wait and see what the AFC decides about NZ. However you'd assume the FFA would be taking Auckland seriously again.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11312628
Sky, which is present in almost half of New Zealand households, increased its annual profit for a fifth consecutive year as it garners more fees from an increasing number of subscribers, more of whom are moving on to its higher value My Sky service
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the only possible options they could be considering:
- Wollongong Wolves
- Canberra United
- South Sydney (Sydney Athletic etc...)
- Brisbane/Ipswich (Brisbane Strikers/ Ipswich Rovers)
- South-eastern Melbourne (Dandenong ......, Frankston......., Melbourne......)
- Auckland City

not ready yet:
- hobart
- south-west sydney
- geelong
- townsville
- gold coast
- cairns
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williamn wrote:
the only possible options they could be considering:
- Wollongong Wolves
- Canberra United
- South Sydney (Sydney Athletic etc...)
- Brisbane/Ipswich (Brisbane Strikers/ Ipswich Rovers)
- South-eastern Melbourne (Dandenong ......, Frankston......., Melbourne......)
- Auckland City

not ready yet:
- hobart
- south-west sydney
- geelong
- townsville
- gold coast
- cairns

You can remove Canberra and wolves from that list
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Oh boy! This thread again!!

What exactly does NZ provide but more travel cost. Fucking amazing you people.


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williamn wrote:
the only possible options they could be considering:
- Wollongong Wolves
- Canberra United
- South Sydney (Sydney Athletic etc...)
- Brisbane/Ipswich (Brisbane Strikers/ Ipswich Rovers)
- South-eastern Melbourne (Dandenong ......, Frankston......., Melbourne......)
- Auckland City

not ready yet:
- hobart
- south-west sydney
- geelong
- townsville
- gold coast
- cairns


How is South-eastern Melbourne ready? Where would they play?
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Local media (Val Migliaccio from The Advertiser) has been pushing Adelaide City as a potential entrant.

Just plain stupid.
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TheSelectFew wrote:
Oh boy! This thread again!!

What exactly does NZ provide but more travel cost. Fucking amazing you people.

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Wollongong and South West Sydney in 2017

Springfield (Brisbane 2), Canberra, 3rd Melbourne (Casey?) Adelaide 2 2021


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patjennings wrote:
Wollongong and South West Sydney in 2017

Springfield (Brisbane 2), Canberra, 3rd Melbourne (Casey?) Adelaide 2 2021


http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/330522179764/Gallop-answers-the-questions?__federated=1

You should watch this. Straight from the horses mouth.

Everybody on here says Wollongong is not part of Sydney. Thus not "millions"
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macktheknife wrote:
Wollongong, Canberra. Done.

Prepare for Brisbane Team 2 & Regional Victoria/3rd Melbourne for 2013/14, then hit Tasmania and a second Adelaide team for 15 & 16, Penrith & Campbelltown for 17 & 18. Let Gold Coast, North Queensland, a 2nd NZ and a 4th Victorian side fight out the rest of the spots.
Fixed. :p
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I think Mack meant seasons? Unless we're living in the past :)
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My prediction:
Third Sydney team.
Second Brisbane team.
Both representing a particular geographical area.
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The last thing we want is another team from New Zealand.

We're not meant to be promoting New Zealand football - Wellington Phoenix is full of New Zealand internationals.

Plus Wellington Phoenix very rarely pulls a decent crowd.

(Not to mention the travel and added costs for all Australian clubs.)
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Burztur wrote:
I think Mack meant seasons? Unless we're living in the past :)


I meant their expansion number. :)
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Is it just me ( and I know it sounds like I'm clutching at straws) or did I read that the choice of where to expand will largely depend of Fox

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While there will be no new team entering the league until the expiration of the TV-deal following the 2016-17 season, official talks will begin before the end of the year with broadcast partners Fox Sports and SBS, as well as other interested parties.


Edited by StiflersMom: 4/10/2014 09:29:03 AM
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The league can't expand unless the cash is there, and the cash depends mostly on the broadcast partners (well, also the owners but we're trying to leave the ownercentric funding model to one of sustainability).
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People making lists again... We can't select where the teams come from, we have to go where the money is.

FFA should provide a clear list of requirements to prospective bidders, then look at the bids to see which are the most viable... And if that ends up being a South Sydney side and a Wollongong side, so be it - we shouldn't cry about NSW bias...
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Speaking from a Sydney perspective, SFC is too central to allow for a North or South team - There would be too much overlap in their regions.

The same thing, to a lesser extent, applies to WSW, who seem to have the Parramatta-Liverpool-Blacktown areas and probably means there needs to be a lot more population expansion in the south west, north west or far west/mountains before they are considered.
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TheSelectFew wrote:
Oh boy! This thread again!!

What exactly does NZ provide but more travel cost. Fucking amazing you people.


I tend to dislike you and we have the opposite thinking towards things but i must agree with you here.
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If Foxtel say they wont pay extra for extra teams then expansion will be dumped.
I don;t see Foxtel being interested in another Sydney team at all, let alone any other team in major cities, and there is no one will to fund those teams apart from South Melbourne and in South Melbourne's case its entirely dependent on the team playing at Lakeside.
Then the second major issue is apart from the Canberra government there is no one willing to fund another team.
The closest might be the Tasmanian government.
The first two criteria for this stage of the expansion should be recurrent government funding and stadium costs.
I can't see how the Canberra government can be beaten they operate the stadium and are willing to put in a million year.
Tasmania might be willing to match.
Wollongong no way they will get a cent from the NSW government.
The rest of the country is a pipe dream.



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If you consider the influence of Foxtel and then replace 'the fish' from meaning attendances to potential Foxtel subscriptions.... Then I think we are looking at two areas only Auckland and Queensland
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Benjamin wrote:
People making lists again... We can't select where the teams come from, we have to go where the money is.

FFA should provide a clear list of requirements to prospective bidders, then look at the bids to see which are the most viable... And if that ends up being a South Sydney side and a Wollongong side, so be it - we shouldn't cry about NSW bias...


Exactly this. What are the requirements and go from there
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Northern Spirit when it entered the NSL had good crowds.So why wouldn't a new Northern Spirit be successful?
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scott21 wrote:
patjennings wrote:
Wollongong and South West Sydney in 2017

Springfield (Brisbane 2), Canberra, 3rd Melbourne (Casey?) Adelaide 2 2021


http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/330522179764/Gallop-answers-the-questions?__federated=1

You should watch this. Straight from the horses mouth.

Everybody on here says Wollongong is not part of Sydney. Thus not "millions"


I think that is true to some extent - but Gallop also talks about long term vision. Simply put the increase in population in the next 20 years will see an extra 5-6 million people in the coastal area between Brisbane and Melbourne. I see Gallop trying to follow the expanding area.

And while Wollongong is not Sydney it is very accessible to a large portion of the Sydney millions, especially the football loving millions, rather than the rugby union north shore and rugby league northern beaches that the Mariners are close to.

South West Sydney is close to WSW but is also a projected major growth area especially when you consider Badgerys Creek development. The Liverpool - Campbelltown - Badgerys Creek triangle in particular is a large area with a good population that will only become more dense.

I would have picked Springfield( Ipswich - Logan - Toowoomba) as the 2nd of the 2017 teams but I think they need a different stadium that Suncorp to differentiate themselves. A new stadium at Springfield is mooted by 2020 as is the Civic stadium in Canberra, The other big area of growth is expected to be Perth so the possibility of a Perth 2 is also there.
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crimsoncrusoe wrote:
Northern Spirit when it entered the NSL had good crowds.So why wouldn't a new Northern Spirit be successful?


Because there is a large club less than 10km away at SFC.
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patjennings wrote:
scott21 wrote:
patjennings wrote:
Wollongong and South West Sydney in 2017

Springfield (Brisbane 2), Canberra, 3rd Melbourne (Casey?) Adelaide 2 2021


http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/330522179764/Gallop-answers-the-questions?__federated=1

You should watch this. Straight from the horses mouth.

Everybody on here says Wollongong is not part of Sydney. Thus not "millions"


I think that is true to some extent - but Gallop also talks about long term vision. Simply put the increase in population in the next 20 years will see an extra 5-6 million people in the coastal area between Brisbane and Melbourne. I see Gallop trying to follow the expanding area.

And while Wollongong is not Sydney it is very accessible to a large portion of the Sydney millions, especially the football loving millions, rather than the rugby union north shore and rugby league northern beaches that the Mariners are close to.

South West Sydney is close to WSW but is also a projected major growth area especially when you consider Badgerys Creek development. The Liverpool - Campbelltown - Badgerys Creek triangle in particular is a large area with a good population that will only become more dense.

I would have picked Springfield( Ipswich - Logan - Toowoomba) as the 2nd of the 2017 teams but I think they need a different stadium that Suncorp to differentiate themselves. A new stadium at Springfield is mooted by 2020 as is the Civic stadium in Canberra, The other big area of growth is expected to be Perth so the possibility of a Perth 2 is also there.


The positive side to Wollongong team is the the away support. You know WSW will travel down there well we take 10 000 to Newcastle you could easily take that to wollongong as well as Sydney FC and mariners arn't to far away, as well as their good number's that turned up to that friendly all stars game and the FFA Cup game. I think Wollongong is now the perfect next expansion area. As for the 2nd team who knows?
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Tom AUFC wrote:
My prediction:
Third Sydney team.
Second Brisbane team.
Both representing a particular geographical area.


That is my prediction too of where the FFA will be looking at.
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