Don't you see that if we self censor, the murderers win?

Edited by tbitm: 8/1/2015 12:27:15 PM

I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees

Brilliant. Just pure brilliance.

Lets do more of the things that have been an antagonist for such attacks.

Sometimes i swear. Theres a difference between idiocy and freedom of expression.

Brilliant. Just pure brilliance.

Lets do more of the things that have been an antagonist for such attacks.





Sometimes i swear. Theres a difference between idiocy and freedom of expression.

It's now being reported that the two gunmen recently returned to France having fought in Syria. But that's OK the Australian government shouldn't stop Australians going to Iraq to fight with IS and returning to Australia with open arms. Their civil liberties are too important!

Brilliant. Just pure brilliance.

Lets do more of the things that have been an antagonist for such attacks.





Sometimes i swear. Theres a difference between idiocy and freedom of expression.

Even moderate Muslims certainly seem to have this "inbuilt insecurity" about their religion.

What will end up happening is being a Muslim in places like Europe will be illegal.

-PB

Swedish Police Release Extensive Report Detailing Control Of 55 ‘No-Go Zones’ By Muslim Criminal Gangs

7:21 PM 11/02/2014


Swedish police have ceded control over 55 “no-go zones” to predominately Muslim criminal gangs.

An extensive report mapping out 55 no-go zones was released Oct. 24, showing where law enforcement has all but handed control to criminal gangs.


Officers frequently face outright attacks when trying to enter the areas, which is a step up from the previous problem with attacks on mailmen, fire trucks, ambulances and similar services. Fire trucks and ambulances had to wait for police escort to enter the areas, but now the police themselves need protection.

The no-go areas heavily coincide with the map of the 186 “exclusion areas” aka. crowded, predominantly Muslim immigrant ghettos, where education is low, employment is lower and the only local business thriving is drug dealing.

As the real law backs away, organized crime emerges to take its place. The police report notes “a wider clientel [in the areas] are increasingly turning to the criminal authorities for justice” in a Godfather-like fashion. Unofficial courts and punishments are often meted out according to the codes of the home cultures of the dominant gangs. The report also points out that there are vehicle checkpoints at the borders of some of these areas. The bad news is it’s not the police doing them; it’s the gangs securing home turf against law enforcement and rival gangs.




The gangs try to keep a semi-low profile in many areas so as not to interfere with the “business” of dealing drugs, protection rackets and similar illicit activity.

Others seek active confrontation with police to establish absolute dominance.

A pair of policemen in May were in pursuit of a suspect and unwisely entered the no-go zone of the southern city of Landskrona. Their car was rammed and the officers were forced out of the car. They were cornered by a crowd of some 50 hostile thugs and drew their weapons to hold them back and called for immediate backup.

Several nearby patrol cars responded to the call and sped towards the scene, only to be ordered to stop half a mile away — just outside the no-go border. The police commander didn’t send the backup units in, fearing escalation and all-out war. The cornered police officers were left to fend for themselves. As luck would have it, one of the officers knew a few residents who interfered and convinced the thugs to let them leave.


In response to these no-go zones, the Swedish police is expanding its soft approach of dialogue and understanding. After the extensive 2013 Stockholm ghetto riots with hundreds of burned cars and buildings, police responded by mostly staying away and sending forth special “dialogue officers” to grill halal hot dogs with the miscreants and make them see the errors of their ways.

Starting next year, the Stockholm Policy Academy will be moved to Södertörns Högskola, where the new curriculum will be “progressive” with more focus on cultural sensitivity, ethical awareness, gender issues and more. The aspiring police officers will achieve “greater understanding of the intercultural perspective.”

No integration at all?

​‘Take us to a big city!’ Asylum seekers stage sit-in after Sweden offers housing in tiny town

Published time: January 02, 2015 14:02
Several dozen people seeking asylum in Sweden refused to leave their bus when they found out that they would be living in a tiny town. They demanded to be brought back to a big city, and police refused to evict them from the vehicle.

The incident happened in Grytan, a småort in central Sweden. The term refers to a small rural community of 50 to 199 residents where houses are built close enough to each other. Grytan, located not far from the city of Östersund, has a housing center for those waiting for their application for asylum to be considered by the authorities.

The center was the destination of some 40 people, who arrived in the village on Wednesday, but when they saw it they were not happy at all, reports The Local.

"I am 75 years old and come from the Middle East. Then I get sent to a place that looks like this," a man from Syria told to the local Östersunds-Posten daily, pointing to the icy road. "It is dangerous for me to be here."





The group refused to leave the bus and demanded that they were returned to Malmö, Sweden’s third city located in the south, or any other big city. The police were called on the scene, but they refused to evict the protesters.

“We can’t force them off the bus. The case would have to go through the Swedish Enforcement Authority, which can issue an eviction order and only then can the police get involved,” officer Bengt Stadin said, Radio Sweden reported.

Fredrik Bengtsson, a Swedish Migration Board spokesman, said that it was up to Swedish officials to choose where they would offer accommodation to asylum seekers.

“We have seen cases where asylum seekers have certain ideas of what awaits them in Sweden and when that doesn’t match reality, then problems arise. They don’t feel what they see here meets their expectations. We’ve had a large amount of people come to Sweden this year and so we can’t place them where they want,” Bengtsson said.

Asylum seekers are not prisoners and can live wherever they want after they are cleared to enter Sweden, but they would have to take care of their own accommodation themselves, he added.

“We are in dialogue with these individuals, but we are very clear that this is the accommodation they’ve been offered and that if they don’t want it they have to arrange their own accommodation while their asylum applications are being processed,” Sophia Öhvall Lindberg of the Migration Board said.

But the protesters say they feel cheated by the board as they were never told where they wanted to place them.

"No one told us where we were going. Then we were told that we would be taken 40 minutes from Stockholm and in the end we had gone 15 hours," one of the man told Sveriges Radio Jämtland.

The board said the Grytan housing center is now home for about 150 people. About a dozen of the protesters agreed to move in, while three others found their own housing.

But about 40 people continued protesting and started taking turns to guard the bus, so that it didn’t simply leave them in the town.

“We want a solution to this situation,” Öhvall Lindberg said.

The standoff continued for two days. On Friday, the protesters finally agreed to vacate the bus after Swedish officials pledged to move them within three months.

In 2014 Sweden took in its highest number of asylum seekers since 1992, when people fleeing the Balkans wars reached the Scandinavian country. A total of 81,300 people found refuge in the country last year, almost twice as many as 54,300 in 2013. The refugees come mostly from Syria, which accounted for 30,600 asylum seekers in 2014.

And no one should dare compare the attacks by the IRA as religious. Thats a fucking joke.

:lol: know thats fucked . They dont seriously im all for banter but you're spreading rumours now

...almost one in four British Muslims believe that last year's 7/7 attacks on London were justified...

26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).

78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons.

That is such backwards logic it's not even funny. Your solution to dealing with the problem is to say that people doing drawings simply shouldn't do it? I know you're a Muslim but I'm sorry, that is plain stupid.

If you think that drawing a cartoon is being antagonistic, then maybe it's time to have a look in the mirror - Because you are part of the problem.

And sorry, but freedom of expression protects the speech and opinions of idiots and minorities. If you'd rather live in a country where the unintelligent and minorities have no voice, I can think of a fair few that might be up your alley - they even hate cartoons!

You need to understand just how revered Prophet Muhammed PBUH is in Islam. Until you understand that, you wont understand why Muslims take offence to it. You all come here with your athiest views about ignoring it and just letting it be, but that just smacks of pure ignorance towards people who choose to be religious or choose to have a faith.

You guys bang on about Religious idiots, but the atheists are just as bad.

You guys know that i am what you would term a moderate muslim. I have many a time said I do not support Isis or any of these idiotic organisations claiming to fight in the name of Islam. Damn I've watched family guy make jokes about islam, I've heard comedians do it. I've seen cartoons, yet barely battered an eye.

But lets just think about this for a second. You know that there are idiots in this world who react to cartoons or attacks against their religion. Why then continue to poke the monster? These attacks have come about because of continuous attacks against the Prophet Muhammed PBUH and Islam. So why continue to do it? Why not just take a step back and stop for a moment. I am all for freedom of expression. But seriously guys, there comes a point when its just stupidity. Cartoons have always brought out these stupid extremists with the same results. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result

I work in the media. I have many times gone against certain islamic views and challenged certain religious leaders and their teachings.

You need to understand just how revered Prophet Muhammed PBUH is in Islam. Until you understand that, you wont understand why Muslims take offence to it. You all come here with your athiest views about ignoring it and just letting it be, but that just smacks of pure ignorance towards people who choose to be religious or choose to have a faith.

You guys bang on about Religious idiots, but the atheists are just as bad.

But lets just think about this for a second. You know that there are idiots in this world who react to cartoons or attacks against their religion. Why then continue to poke the monster? These attacks have come about because of continuous attacks against the Prophet Muhammed PBUH and Islam. So why continue to do it? Why not just take a step back and stop for a moment. I am all for freedom of expression. But seriously guys, there comes a point when its just stupidity. Cartoons have always brought out these stupid extremists with the same results. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result

You need to understand just how revered Prophet Muhammed PBUH is in Islam. Until you understand that, you wont understand why Muslims take offence to it. You all come here with your athiest views about ignoring it and just letting it be, but that just smacks of pure ignorance towards people who choose to be religious or choose to have a faith.

You guys bang on about Religious idiots, but the atheists are just as bad.

Just as bad as what?

Mate if you get this touchy about a cartoon then you're part of the problem. If you think freedom of expression ever comes to a point of stupidity then you're the type of person that allows this extremism to cultivate and grow.

aaaaaaand there we have it - zimbos showing his true colours.

Victimising the terrorists and mitigating their culpability of their actions. "If it wasn't for evil people poking fun at Mohammed through satire and cartoons and lame internet jokes, then maybe this wouldn't happen!"

Disgusting deflection of the real causes.