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Agree with you there Zimbos, there are certain people untouchable in our society. Very hypocritical.
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Free Speech doesn't mean you get exempted from consequences, nor does it mean your employers have to let you do whatever you want. If the owner/editor doesn't want him, then fine. The bloke could go open his own magazine or website or whatever.
Unlike the terrorists who decided to execute a dozen people.
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Carlito
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433 wrote:Agree with you there Zimbos, there are certain people untouchable in our society. Very hypocritical. very .
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Slobodan Drauposevic
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zimbos_05 wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
they mocked everyone .
Yes, i agree. The point the article made was when they mocked someone for being jewish, that person got fired and lost his job. So where do we draw the line in terms of which mockery is fine and which is not? Edited by zimbos_05: 10/1/2015 10:34:30 AM whats the article ? That person claims they fired that person for being anti semitic but wheres the proof ? Not doubting you, just find it intresting . Article: http://www.loonwatch.com/2015/01/why-i-am-not-charlie-hebdo/Support article on fired cartoonist: Quote: Maurice Sinet, 86, who works under the pen name Sine in the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo, faced charges of "inciting racial hatred" for a column he wrote in 2009. The piece sparked a slanging match among the Parisian intelligentsia and ended in his dismissal from the magazine.
"L'affaire Sine" followed the engagement of Mr Sarkozy, 22, to Jessica Sebaoun-Darty, the Jewish heiress of an electronic goods chain. Commenting on an unfounded rumour that the president's son planned to convert to Judaism, Sine quipped: "He'll go a long way in life, that little lad."
A high-profile political commentator slammed the column as linking prejudice about Jews and social success. Charlie Hebdo's editor, Philippe Val, asked Sinet to apologise but he refused in a very strictly manner.
Mr Val's decision to fire Sine was backed by a group of eminent intellectuals, including the philosopher Bernard-Henry Lévy, but parts of the libertarian Left defended him, citing the right to free speech.
As mocking young Mr Sarkozy converted to Judaism for money, Sine was accused of being Anti-Semitic and faced many preassures leading him to be fired from the weekly magazine. The same magazine published cartoons even insulting the Islam Prophet Muhammad and Muslims yet explained them as “freedom of speech.” You do realise that Muslims aren't a race of people and that Jews are, right? Why would you fire someone for saying "Nigger Christian" ? Would it be because it's making fun of their race or of their religion? Sarkozy's family is Jewish. Edited by Draupnir: 10/1/2015 05:58:32 PM
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zimbos_05
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Draupnir wrote:
You do realise that Muslims aren't a race of people and that Jews are, right?
Why would you fire someone for saying "Nigger Christian" ? Would it be because it's making fun of their race or of their religion? Sarkozy's family is Jewish.
Edited by Draupnir: 10/1/2015 05:58:32 PM
You realise Jews exist outside of Israel. Practicing different forms of Judaism. People of all different colour, race and creed.
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I agree. Should not have been sacked. It was hypocritical.
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Draupnir wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
they mocked everyone .
Yes, i agree. The point the article made was when they mocked someone for being jewish, that person got fired and lost his job. So where do we draw the line in terms of which mockery is fine and which is not? Edited by zimbos_05: 10/1/2015 10:34:30 AM whats the article ? That person claims they fired that person for being anti semitic but wheres the proof ? Not doubting you, just find it intresting . Article: http://www.loonwatch.com/2015/01/why-i-am-not-charlie-hebdo/Support article on fired cartoonist: Quote: Maurice Sinet, 86, who works under the pen name Sine in the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo, faced charges of "inciting racial hatred" for a column he wrote in 2009. The piece sparked a slanging match among the Parisian intelligentsia and ended in his dismissal from the magazine.
"L'affaire Sine" followed the engagement of Mr Sarkozy, 22, to Jessica Sebaoun-Darty, the Jewish heiress of an electronic goods chain. Commenting on an unfounded rumour that the president's son planned to convert to Judaism, Sine quipped: "He'll go a long way in life, that little lad."
A high-profile political commentator slammed the column as linking prejudice about Jews and social success. Charlie Hebdo's editor, Philippe Val, asked Sinet to apologise but he refused in a very strictly manner.
Mr Val's decision to fire Sine was backed by a group of eminent intellectuals, including the philosopher Bernard-Henry Lévy, but parts of the libertarian Left defended him, citing the right to free speech.
As mocking young Mr Sarkozy converted to Judaism for money, Sine was accused of being Anti-Semitic and faced many preassures leading him to be fired from the weekly magazine. The same magazine published cartoons even insulting the Islam Prophet Muhammad and Muslims yet explained them as “freedom of speech.” You do realise that Muslims aren't a race of people and that Jews are, right? Why would you fire someone for saying "Nigger Christian" ? Would it be because it's making fun of their race or of their religion? Sarkozy's family is Jewish. Edited by Draupnir: 10/1/2015 05:58:32 PM But the guy CONVERTED to Judaism. He wasn't born Jewish.
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Supporter of Hamas tying himself in knots. Keep peddling mate.
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Draupnir wrote:
You do realise that Muslims aren't a race of people and that Jews are, right?
lol fuck this forum has some clueless cunts Edited by jonomv: 11/1/2015 12:39:28 AM
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JonoMV wrote:Draupnir wrote:
You do realise that Muslims aren't a race of people and that Jews are, right?
humbert wrote:Supporter of Hamas tying himself in knots. Keep peddling mate. lol fuck this forum has some clueless cunts Edited by jonomv: 11/1/2015 12:39:28 AM
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humbert wrote:Supporter of Hamas tying himself in knots. Keep peddling mate. Why don't you reveal your true self and bias. The irony, here you are peddling your own lies, deceit and manipulation the prized ethos of your people in the form of disguised multi's. Perhaps you should take your own advice and go back to peddling your agenda back on football anarchy, 'gods chosen one'.
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humbert
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Multi. Dodgy syntax. Anonymity. Solid effort bro.
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humbert wrote:Multi. Dodgy syntax. Anonymity. Solid effort bro. Not sure if saying i have multi or he just really being confused.
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zimbos_05 wrote:
I didn't ask for blasphemy laws. Everyone is just saying, "its only cartoon done in fun, just get over it"
And I am just trying to say that because non muslims cant understand how revered Muhammed PBUH is in Islam, then you wouldnt understand why things such as cartoons cause so much anger among Muslims.
To be brutally honest why should that stop anyone? It's not hate speech, it's not racist. Lets face it, you only have to look on Facebook comments on posts where a significant amount of muslims post to see their utter contempt for western values. Maybe we can strike a deal where muslims respect western culture and its values a bit more and we'll respect your prophet.
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Muslims can't understand how much I love bacon. I've never considered shooting up a Halal friendly KFC.
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Personally, I would've blamed James Franco and Seth Rogan if North Korea had launched a nuke because of the interview.
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notorganic wrote:Muslims can't understand how much I love bacon. I've never considered shooting up a Halal friendly KFC. :lol: But if you are from a rough up bringing it's ok Notor, we understand that you just want your bacon and KFC shouldn't antagonise you with fake bacon!
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zimbos_05 wrote:humbert wrote:Multi. Dodgy syntax. Anonymity. Solid effort bro. Not sure if saying i have multi or he just really being confused. Basically, Humbert is a fraud masquerading as someone he is not. He plays the same game on footballanarchy.net under the guise of many different 'avatars' but the agenda is the same.
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Care to elaborate?
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u4486662 wrote:Draupnir wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
they mocked everyone .
Yes, i agree. The point the article made was when they mocked someone for being jewish, that person got fired and lost his job. So where do we draw the line in terms of which mockery is fine and which is not? Edited by zimbos_05: 10/1/2015 10:34:30 AM whats the article ? That person claims they fired that person for being anti semitic but wheres the proof ? Not doubting you, just find it intresting . Article: http://www.loonwatch.com/2015/01/why-i-am-not-charlie-hebdo/Support article on fired cartoonist: Quote: Maurice Sinet, 86, who works under the pen name Sine in the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo, faced charges of "inciting racial hatred" for a column he wrote in 2009. The piece sparked a slanging match among the Parisian intelligentsia and ended in his dismissal from the magazine.
"L'affaire Sine" followed the engagement of Mr Sarkozy, 22, to Jessica Sebaoun-Darty, the Jewish heiress of an electronic goods chain. Commenting on an unfounded rumour that the president's son planned to convert to Judaism, Sine quipped: "He'll go a long way in life, that little lad."
A high-profile political commentator slammed the column as linking prejudice about Jews and social success. Charlie Hebdo's editor, Philippe Val, asked Sinet to apologise but he refused in a very strictly manner.
Mr Val's decision to fire Sine was backed by a group of eminent intellectuals, including the philosopher Bernard-Henry Lévy, but parts of the libertarian Left defended him, citing the right to free speech.
As mocking young Mr Sarkozy converted to Judaism for money, Sine was accused of being Anti-Semitic and faced many preassures leading him to be fired from the weekly magazine. The same magazine published cartoons even insulting the Islam Prophet Muhammad and Muslims yet explained them as “freedom of speech.” You do realise that Muslims aren't a race of people and that Jews are, right? Why would you fire someone for saying "Nigger Christian" ? Would it be because it's making fun of their race or of their religion? Sarkozy's family is Jewish. Edited by Draupnir: 10/1/2015 05:58:32 PM But the guy CONVERTED to Judaism. He wasn't born Jewish. No, his family is of Greek Jewish background who converted to Catholicism many, many decades ago. The guy might've been brought up culturally Christian, but his DNA is Jewish.
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notorganic wrote:Muslims can't understand how much I love bacon. I've never considered shooting up a Halal friendly KFC. Solidarity with notorganic. Free Notorstan!!!
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benelsmore wrote:
Maybe we can strike a deal where muslims respect western culture and its values a bit more and we'll respect your prophet.
I so much hope so. Part of what I am trying to say. It is a two way street. Stop making fun of our prophet and these things wont happen. And we, like is happening so often in Australia, will continue to work with our community to become greater citizens within australian society.
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zimbos_05 wrote:benelsmore wrote:
Maybe we can strike a deal where muslims respect western culture and its values a bit more and we'll respect your prophet.
I so much hope so. Part of what I am trying to say. It is a two way street. Stop making fun of our prophet and these things wont happen. And we, like is happening so often in Australia, will continue to work with our community to become greater citizens within australian society. Maybe grow some thicker skin so you're not so buttfrustrated over a cartoon, then we'll respect your prophet.
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zimbos_05 wrote:benelsmore wrote:
Maybe we can strike a deal where muslims respect western culture and its values a bit more and we'll respect your prophet.
I so much hope so. Part of what I am trying to say. It is a two way street. Stop making fun of our prophet and these things wont happen. And we, like is happening so often in Australia, will continue to work with our community to become greater citizens within australian society. Fuck off. Free speech exists so people can say whatever they want. If you seriously believe that a society in which satire shouldn't exist because you'll get butthurt over it, then move to Saudi Arabia already.
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This thread is great. What a two way street it is- "you make fun of us, we slay dozens of innocent people".
Seems legit.
Edited by jlm8695: 11/1/2015 08:54:30 PM
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zimbos_05 wrote:benelsmore wrote:
Maybe we can strike a deal where muslims respect western culture and its values a bit more and we'll respect your prophet.
I so much hope so. Part of what I am trying to say. It is a two way street. Stop making fun of our prophet and these things wont happen. And we, like is happening so often in Australia, will continue to work with our community to become greater citizens within australian society. It's an incredibly bad argument to say that "these things" stop if an historical figure stops being mocked. Do I need to explain why, or do you have at least a little bit of self awareness?
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jlm8695 wrote:This thread is great. What a two way street it is- "you make fun of us, we slay dozens of innocent people".
Seems legit.
Edited by jlm8695: 11/1/2015 08:54:30 PM Bro, if only you didn't draw cartoons bro
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Draupnir wrote:jlm8695 wrote:This thread is great. What a two way street it is- "you make fun of us, we slay dozens of innocent people".
Seems legit.
Edited by jlm8695: 11/1/2015 08:54:30 PM Bro, if only you didn't draw cartoons bro At least they got cartoons us catholics got piss christ :lol:
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