Do what you guys want. Continue to mock the prophet. Continue to mock Islam. Continue with your continual persistence that you are entitled to"free speech and freedom of expression".

These attacks wont stop. They wont. I wish they would, but I know for a fact that they wont. It's sad. They will continue to take offence to any mockery of the most revered and high held person they will ever have, and the western governments will continue to not 'negotiate with terrorists or we let them win'.

Continue to play your anti-semitic card. I can't continue to sit here and attempt to reason when clearly there is no chance of that. I've just had enough with the world to be fair. Its full of crap, depression, messed up people in the world, and governments doing nothing to actually benefit the world but instead push their own agendas.

Continue with your drawings. Its fine.


I don't expect you to listen to this, but its up to you: http://www.lbc.co.uk/james-obriens-masterclass-on-how-to-deal-with-people-who-blame-muslims-for-paris-attack-102995


Edited by zimbos_05: 11/1/2015 09:24:09 PM

Do what you guys want. Continue to mock the prophet. Continue to mock Islam. Continue with your continual persistence that you are entitled to"free speech and freedom of expression".

These attacks wont stop. They wont. I wish they would, but I know for a fact that they wont. It's sad. They will continue to take offence to any mockery of the most revered and high held person they will ever have, and the western governments will continue to not 'negotiate with terrorists or we let them win'.

Continue to play your anti-semitic card. I can't continue to sit here and attempt to reason when clearly there is no chance of that. I've just had enough with the world to be fair. Its full of crap, depression, messed up people in the world, and governments doing nothing to actually benefit the world but instead push their own agendas.

Continue with your drawings. Its fine.


I don't expect you to listen to this, but its up to you: http://www.lbc.co.uk/james-obriens-masterclass-on-how-to-deal-with-people-who-blame-muslims-for-paris-attack-102995


Edited by zimbos_05: 11/1/2015 09:24:09 PM

Its the murderers that have to change

We're right, they're wrong

We'll never compromise or negotiate with terrorists and fundamentalists.

The west has fought and defeated far more formidable, dangerous, better organised and more frightening tyranny than Islamic terrorism.

Should we automatically not mock Kim Jong Un for fear of upsetting North Koreans? They revere him more than Muslims revere Mohammed.

Do what you guys want. Continue to mock the prophet. Continue to mock Islam. Continue with your continual persistence that you are entitled to"free speech and freedom of expression".

These attacks wont stop. They wont. I wish they would, but I know for a fact that they wont. It's sad. They will continue to take offence to any mockery of the most revered and high held person they will ever have, and the western governments will continue to not 'negotiate with terrorists or we let them win'.

Continue to play your anti-semitic card. I can't continue to sit here and attempt to reason when clearly there is no chance of that. I've just had enough with the world to be fair. Its full of crap, depression, messed up people in the world, and governments doing nothing to actually benefit the world but instead push their own agendas.

Continue with your drawings. Its fine.

I don't expect you to listen to this, but its up to you: I don't expect you to listen to this, but its up to you: http://www.lbc.co.uk/james-obriens-masterclass-on-how-to-deal-with-people-who-blame-muslims-for-paris-attack-102995

Thanks, we will.

Oh and does putting "free speech and freedom of expression" in inverted commas imply that you have disdain for these things? Or you believe they shouldn't exist?

You're not reasoning when you ostensibly say "If you don't satirise us, we won't blow you up! See, it's your fault we blew you up, you shouldn't have drawn those mean pictures!"

Should we automatically not mock Kim Jong Un for fear of upsetting North Koreans? They revere him more than Muslims revere Mohammed.

I would like to see Zimbos defend Muslims that live in Iraq, Pakistan etc that continue to blow themselves up in the street and kill dozens of innocents.

What's that about?

If it isn't an Islam problem than its certainly a middle eastern problem?

You're not reasoning when you ostensibly say "If you don't satirise us, we won't blow you up! See, it's your fault we blew you up, you shouldn't have drawn those mean pictures!"

"If you don't satirise us, we won't blow you up! See, it's your fault we blew you up, you shouldn't have drawn those mean pictures!"

Yeah but Zimbos you did say "if you didn't mock you wouldn't get killed".

I'm asking why do these men do it in their own countries against their own people? It's clearly a cultural/racial problem.

I acknowledge that Islam isn't a race, but the majority of these attacks come from middle eastern men/Africans.

who are mostly western born , bred, educated and indoctrined over here in the west too. Why do they hate the west when most of them were pill popping, hedonstic play boys

It's actually funny with these French guys and that Choudary bloke in the Uk.
They never practised Islam, correct me if I'm wrong but drugs and alcohol aren't allowed to be consumed?

Trust me. Muhammed PBUH is revered much more than Kim Jong Un. There is no comparison.

Yeah but Zimbos you did say "if you didn't mock you wouldn't get killed".

I'm asking why do these men do it in their own countries against their own people? It's clearly a cultural/racial problem.

I acknowledge that Islam isn't a race, but the majority of these attacks come from middle eastern men/Africans.

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I am not saying that if you draw, then the attacks are justified and you had it coming. But lets be honest, Islamaphobia is rampant. The US and Israel have been at war with muslim nations for decades.....

America up until wwII were isolationist and didnt get involved until they had too. Then the world looked upon america to solve the problems due to the fact they are the worlds only western super powr. Again why is the picture of Mohammed more offensive then pisd christ

Africa certainly hasn't looked to America to solve everything. Neither has Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc .

The christ picture i just as offensive. I can't justify any attack/blasphemy on a religious figure, much like i can't justify what happened in Paris.

I can only seek to perhaps plead that we change certain views in order to create a more tolerant and co-operative functioning society.

The christ picture i just as offensive. I can't justify any attack/blasphemy on a religious figure, much like i can't justify what happened in Paris.

I can only seek to perhaps plead that we change certain views in order to create a more tolerant and co-operative functioning society.

How about - You start convincing yourself that the religion you put so much faith into is based in books where slavery is condoned and that the man behind all of it had sex with a 9 year old child. This is fact, yet because you're so delusional, you'd rather have people not express their right to free speech, all so others can go on believing the words of such a backwards-as-fuck guide to ethics and moral.

On the same day (as the paris siege), Al Qaeda car-bombed a police college in Yemen - killing over 40 people, all believed to be Muslims, many of them students.

And lest we forget, several dozen innocent Muslims died in the twin towers on 9/11 including a pregnant woman.
So forget all the garbage about these lunatics representing Muslims. They don’t.

They represent a small faction of fanatical extremists who have hijacked Islam to justify their nefarious trade in terror, and grotesquely and deliberately distorted the meaning of the Qur’an for the same purpose.
They can chant ‘God is great’ all they like, but their currency is death and destruction not genuine religious ideology.

And their excuse for all this mayhem is predicated entirely on a pack of lies; the Prophet Mohammad never advocated killing people who blasphemed him. Nor does the Qur’an tell anyone to do that, or even mention blasphemy.

As my former CNN colleague Fareed Zakaria pointed out today, draconian punishment for blasphemy, including in many cases death, has been created in law by Muslim nations intent on suppressing their people.

So when these barbaric assassins scream that they are ‘avenging the Prophet’, they’re doing nothing of the sort. They’re just using him as an excuse to commit murder.

It’s a sickening deceit.

But they don’t give a damn what I, or most of the West, think about them.

All they care about is spewing their hateful rhetoric and violence as chaotically as possible, preying on the impressionable vulnerability of many disenfranchised young Muslims who live, for the main, in poverty and hopelessness.

This is not going to be an easy war to win.

Terror groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda are a hideously difficult enemy to combat because they exist in so many varied and amorphous guises around the world, some large in number, some tiny.

It could be Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Atheism.....why provoke any of them? Why make fun of any of them? Its just a cheap form of bullying.

I don't deny the right to free speech. I just ask what is the difference in drawing a cartoon about jews, and drawing a cartoon about the Prophet Muhammed PBUH? Why is one considered anti-semitic and one free speech? Simple question. Thats all i asked.

Why make fun of any of them? Its just a cheap form of bullying.

The ironic thing is, as ridiculous as the flat earth society is, at least their beliefs don't include killing non-believers and revering a child molester.

Well no, that's not all you asked.

You also suggested that Islamists and Extremists would stop killing people if the mockery of The Prophet stopped.

Personally, I think that the killing would be more likely to stop if the mockery increased. It seems that Muslim Extremists are very selective in who they get offended by, as demonstrated in the outcry after the Danish newspaper and South Park incidents but relative silence when millions of private citizens take part in the annual Draw Muhammed Day... as if the fame of the platform of slight is more important to fuel outrage than the slight itself.

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Pretty good production values in that video. Had a good chuckle at how ridiculous his arguments were :lol: