you're right about that. the fake money is just digits typed up on a computer screen

The money isn't real, so its a non-point.

Besides, does the school bully really owe you money?

i meant to say, these photos are not from anyway , but are from here

Edited by adrtho: 21/6/2015 08:13:14 PM

I'm not saying it is or it isnt - I'm saying I'm skeptical.
I'm saying I dont know what to believe. I do know I dont blindly believe media propaganda. You said yourself those photos are of something else. Case in point.

Edited by ricecrackers: 21/6/2015 07:48:08 PM

it not real then :lol: it not happening

I've heard about it of course, but I'm skeptical of it as I already said
what you posted is a graphic

it doesnt prove anything to me, nor do photos of airstrips that could have been taken anywhere

...and the person who posted those pics proved my point that many people can be convinced of anything and dont even question

Edited by ricecrackers: 21/6/2015 07:39:01 PM

have you ever had people who owe you money, and you can't get it back (in force it)? that china and USA debt...China put there money in safest place in the world for there money USA...China can give Venezuela $50 billion, because Venezuela as oil, it must be safe because of oil right, well that if oil doesn't drop 50% in prices :lol: and that $50 is lost :lol:

i just don't see why it bad to take chinese money and pay them 0.55% pa :lol:

Edited by adrtho: 21/6/2015 07:04:34 PM

i'm really surprised you don't know about china building man made island in middle major asian shipping lane


and no, those photos are not of anyway , they are of here



Spratly Islands reef, is really a long way from Chinese waters

Joffa has some foresight into the future on 442

maybe Joffa knows what happen to my Muppets topic :lol: ,

that could be anywhere

They already own most of the US debt so China owns the USA

So what's actually happened that's made Joffa create a poll thread about this?

I can't find anything more recent then May.

-PB

i'll have to look them up

Edit:


http://en.ccccltd.cn/business/overseas/201011/t20101112_1552.html

they can certainly make one i think

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China is rapidly building an airstrip on an artificial island in disputed South China Sea waters, recent satellite pictures show, potentially ramping up tensions with several Southeast Asian neighbours.

Fiery Cross in the Spratly Islands was little more than a reef when China began land reclamation works to turn it into an island in late 2014.

Now satellite images taken last week by DigitalGlobe and shown on the website of the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) show the runway — estimated at 3.1 kilometres (1.9 miles) in total — more than one-third complete, it says.

When in operation, it says, it will be able to “accommodate almost any type of aircraft that China would want to land”.

“Before this construction China lacked the refuelling and resupply capabilities to reach the southern part of the South China Sea,” it added.

“While they have not yet been built, Fiery Cross should be big enough to accommodate hangar facilities for Chinese aircraft.”

http://www.rokdrop.net/forums/topic/chinese-finish-man-made-island-in-the-south-china-sea/

Edited by heyitsrobbie: 21/6/2015 05:55:20 PM

I'm skeptical about this man-made island
you can post all the photos you want, but they could be from anywhere

of course no one recognises their claim, usa and china are rivals. and of course they would want to get a 1 up over their rivals. i really think that china wants to be heard and taken seriously on the world stage and america doesnt want that to happen. china is pushing at the right time as americas economy is starting to collapse. and guess who does america owe most of the debt to? china. so china owns most of americas debt

This.

Far too costly lol.

-PB

it not about wanting war..

but why is China building a man made island in the middle of one of the world's busiest sea transport lanes ? the Chinese are saying this is there territorial waters, and no over flying or ship near by it.....yanks will 100% totally disregard this, and they will fly over and send there ship there., just as Yanks did during cold war with USSR territorial waters . but in this instance nobody recognizes Chinese claim, so the yanks will have no choice but to constantly overfly this zone

Edited by adrtho: 21/6/2015 05:32:04 PM

you heard of the one world government aka the new world order? i think thats going to be the result of all this. money would be scrapped all together to save the banks from going under and we'd be using some kind of one world currency in the future for everyone in the world to use

and to be honest with ya, its not going to be pretty, i heard stories its gonna be a fascist state.

Edited by heyitsrobbie: 21/6/2015 05:25:55 PM

I studied this potential conflict when I was ay uni, and basically, if this happens, Australia is f***ed economically. Then again, so is most of the world.

i highly doubt that the USA will go to war against china

when their economy collapses they will go to war against russia to try and divert the americans attention away from the economic collapse. but i tell you what though either way, america will go into lockdown. america as we know it is preparing for civil unrest. its going to get much worse in the future

Edited by heyitsrobbie: 21/6/2015 05:11:29 PM

America has nothing to gain from a war with China.

They're for humanitarian aid, haven't you heard...

those assault ships should indicate something

and lets not forget, they're called "assault" ships for a reason

so its more likely we'll be on the side that starts the war

lol all you want, but to the people who make plans for Australia future, they are not....Australia is simply the most completely vulnerable country in the world...We are a big fucking Island that can be completely cut off by sea..the fact that England and then USA has control the seas for 150 years , is down to good luck, of course Australia has to pay a small price to USA and England by fighting in some war, but that cost much less then building a navy for areself

What has been lost in debate about where Australia will build new submarine, is why Australia need to double the amount Submarine (6 subs now, 12 sub future) why does Australia need more submarine then the British Royal Navy? why do we need more submarine the French Navy..

why is Australia building a Amphibious forces , that not much small in size then UK

Because, if United States was to lose control of the sea, Australia will be in whole lot change

Edited by adrtho: 21/6/2015 03:50:45 PM

FMD :roll:

m80 army will Australia to victory.

Really should start scouting bush walking tracks, and getting into survival mode . Start stocking up on tinned rations, and find myself a black-market rifle, and stock up on some ammunition for it.

Tomorrow, When The War Began. Fuck Yeah, I'll lead the rebel army, and drive the Commy Asian bastards right out of fucking Sydney Harbour. I'll drag Caitlin Stasey along too. I'll be her Lee. ;) :-"

What.

-PB

The ‘war’ word is being increasingly heard as Europe, Russia, China and the United States adopt provocative postures

This story was published: 24 days ago May 28, 2015

IS the world going mad? Military posturing is quietly reaching new extremes in Europe, the Mediterranean and the South China Sea. And the provocative bluster has just reached new heights.

The source was anonymous. But the mouthpiece has a measure of credibility. High profile military analyst and former US Naval War College lecturer John Schindler tweeted last week: “Said a senior NATO (non-US) GOFO to me today: ‘We’ll probably be at war this summer. If we’re lucky it won’t be nuclear.’ Let that sink in.”

The warning comes as Europe engages in some of its biggest ever war games — right on Russia’s front door. It’s a deliberate ploy, intended to remind Moscow of the consequences of its duplicitous invasion of Ukraine.

Half a world away, the “w” word was mentioned again yesterday. This time in an editorial by a Chinese state controlled paper. Said the Global Times: “If the United States’ bottom line is that China has to halt its activities, then a US-China war is inevitable in the South China Sea.”

It came as China’s government effectively declared a “no fly zone” over the disputed waterway after warning the US over its “provocative” aerial reconnaissance of several islands.

Yesterday, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman issued a formal protest at the United States’ actions in challenging its territorial claim.

“We urge the US to correct its error, remain rational and stop all irresponsible words and deeds,” Hua Chunying said. “Freedom of navigation and overflight by no means mean that foreign countries’ warships and military aircraft can ignore the legitimate rights of other countries as well as the safety of aviation and navigation.”

It represents a distinct hardening of China’s attitude towards the rising clamour of international protest.

Until recently it had been ignoring military overflights of these islands by the US and other regional nations.

China is maintaining its stance that its aggressive construction work on disputed islands in South-East Asia is no different to building highways or public facilities anywhere else on the mainland. Such is its determination that these disputed territories are its own.

Combined, the increasingly threatening talk is causing many to take notice: High-profile US Billionaire investor George Soros told the World Bank last week: “If there is conflict between China and a military ally of the United States, like Japan, then it is not an exaggeration to say that we are on the threshold of a third world war,”

POWER POSTURING RAMPS UP

Early in May, the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation began one of its largest ever war-games. The naval anti-submarine exercise was designed to send a message after a series of aggressive Russian submarine incursions into the territorial waters of Baltic States such as Latvia, Finland and Sweden.

Last month, a number of Baltic State defence ministers issued a statement condemning Russia’s activities, once again declaring its old Cold War enemy their “biggest threat to security”.

Russia retaliated by highlighting the deepening relationship between neutral Finland and Sweden with NATO was a “special concern”.

Some 18 warships and submarines took part in the oddly named exercise, “Dynamic Mongoose”. It involved 10 NATO members and the otherwise neutral Sweden.

It came just weeks after NATO members — including Britain — sent tanks and troops to conduct live-fire exercises with Estonia: Once again an act designed to send a signal to Russia — keep your hands off the Baltic States. The tiny Baltic state separated from the former Soviet Union in 1991.

This week saw the launch of a third major NATO military exercise: Combat jets from the US, UK, Germany, France, Switzerland and the Netherlands have gathered in Finland, Norway and Sweden for extensive Arctic combat drills over 12 days.

Russia has not been idle in its response. It has teamed up with ally China to conduct war-games in the Mediterranean Sea. The 10-day operation ended last week after the two world powers boldly displayed their warship muscle in the equivalent of Western Europe’s backyard ‘swimming pool’.

SIMMERING TENSIONS BOIL OVER

Despite decades of complaint from Vietnam, the Philppines, Taiwan and Malaysia, the United States has only now begun loudly proclaiming its protests over China’s expansion within the disputed South China Sea.

It’s in response to a sudden surge of expensive and extensive land reclamation projects.

They’re incredible engineering achievements. Rocky shoals and tidal sandbanks are being built up into full-blown artificial islands — 809 hectares worth, in all. And these islands appear intended to house extensive military bases.

Yesterday, Chinese officials responded to US military overflights and a probing visit by one of its warships.

“For a long time, the US military has been conducting close-in surveillance of China and the Chinese military has been making such necessary, legal and professional response — why did this story suddenly pop up in the past weeks?” Senior Colonel Yang Yujun commented yesterday.

“Has the South China Sea shrunk?”

“Some people have been intentionally and repeatedly hyping this topic. Their purpose is to smear the Chinese military and dramatise regional tensions. And I’m not ruling it out that this is being done to find an excuse for certain country to take actions in the future.”

The Chinese-government newspaper The Global Times was even more blunt.

“We do not want a military conflict with the United States, but if it were to come, we have to accept it,” an editorial reads.

“The intensity of the conflict will be higher than what people usually think of as ‘friction’.”

Another newspaper, The People’s Daily, editorialised last September that Beijing should prepare itself for a third world war arising out of the standoff between the United States and Russia over Ukraine.

Meanwhile Billionaire George Soros explained his fears over the South China Sea tensions to the World Bank. If China’s economy continues to falter, he said last week, “there is a real danger that China will align itself with Russia politically and militarily, and then the threat of third world war becomes real.”

He was arguing for China to be allowed to join the IMF’s international currency market to allow the Yuan to compete with the US dollar.


http://www.news.com.au/world/the-war-word-is-being-increasingly-heard-as-europe-russia-china-and-the-united-states-adopt-provocative-postures/story-fndir2ev-1227371823129