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scotty21 wrote:[youtube]CcmZ1dof3Qw[/youtube] Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:[youtube]4JEpksZA0JA[/youtube]
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:scotty21 wrote:[youtube]CcmZ1dof3Qw[/youtube] Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:[youtube]4JEpksZA0JA[/youtube] Would take a Lambo over a hippy wagon every day.
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scotty21 wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:scotty21 wrote:[youtube]CcmZ1dof3Qw[/youtube] Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:[youtube]4JEpksZA0JA[/youtube] Would take a Lambo over a hippy wagon every day. you would take both...$120k hippy car that goes 0-100 in under 3 sec ...it like owning a S-class Mercedes, just faster
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adrtho wrote:scotty21 wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:scotty21 wrote:[youtube]CcmZ1dof3Qw[/youtube] Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:[youtube]4JEpksZA0JA[/youtube] Would take a Lambo over a hippy wagon every day. you would take both...$120k hippy car that goes 0-100 in under 3 sec ...it like owning a S-class Mercedes, just faster Sure. There's still a problem though. It's an electric car
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Anyone got deets on charging an electric car via solar and how effective it is? -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:Anyone got deets on charging an electric car via solar and how effective it is?
-PB tesla car goes about 6.25 Km per Kwh of electricity, cost of Kwh of electricity in Australia is about .30c (i think)
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scotty21 wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:scotty21 wrote:[youtube]CcmZ1dof3Qw[/youtube] Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:[youtube]4JEpksZA0JA[/youtube] Would take a Lambo over a hippy wagon every day. Would prefer a car that's still guaranteed to work a week after you drive it off the lot.
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adrtho wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Anyone got deets on charging an electric car via solar and how effective it is?
-PB tesla car goes about 6.25 Km per Kwh of electricity, cost of Kwh of electricity in Australia is about .30c (i think) Nah, off peak is around 15c per KWh for green electricity, so a P90D would cost about $13.50 to give you 500km of range (from empty)
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:adrtho wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Anyone got deets on charging an electric car via solar and how effective it is?
-PB tesla car goes about 6.25 Km per Kwh of electricity, cost of Kwh of electricity in Australia is about .30c (i think) Nah, off peak is around 15c per KWh for green electricity, so a P90D would cost about $13.50 to give you 500km of range (from empty) 90D can do 500km per discharge? -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:adrtho wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Anyone got deets on charging an electric car via solar and how effective it is?
-PB tesla car goes about 6.25 Km per Kwh of electricity, cost of Kwh of electricity in Australia is about .30c (i think) Nah, off peak is around 15c per KWh for green electricity, so a P90D would cost about $13.50 to give you 500km of range (from empty) 90D can do 500km per discharge? -PB EPA say 407km , NEDC say 480km
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paulbagzFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:adrtho wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Anyone got deets on charging an electric car via solar and how effective it is?
-PB tesla car goes about 6.25 Km per Kwh of electricity, cost of Kwh of electricity in Australia is about .30c (i think) Nah, off peak is around 15c per KWh for green electricity, so a P90D would cost about $13.50 to give you 500km of range (from empty) 90D can do 500km per discharge? -PB According to Australian government standard testing, its 528km range for the 90D & 491km for the P90D http://www.greenvehicleguide.gov.au/Vehicle/Search
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The backward part of Australia (we are neanderthals when it comes to grasping environmental issues), is the Tesla S shouldn't cop any luxury car tax. It's only expensive to cover the cost of the batteries.
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The backward part of Australia (we are neanderthals when it comes to grasping environmental issues), is the Tesla S shouldn't cop any luxury car tax. It's only expensive to cover the cost of the batteries. That would be by next question. How long do they last? Where do we dump them when they're dead? -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The backward part of Australia (we are neanderthals when it comes to grasping environmental issues), is the Tesla S shouldn't cop any luxury car tax. It's only expensive to cover the cost of the batteries. That would be by next question. How long do they last? Where do we dump them when they're dead? -PB I have done a bit of digging about this. Expected lifespan of batteries is at least 8 years with unlimited km's, however the batteries will decrease in output over that time. so maybe 6-10 years. In USA I believe the 85kw batteries cost around $10,000, so if we gues $17,500 here that should have you covered hopefully. As far as dumping of the batteries it wouldn't suprise me if in the future Tesla recycle them through their new battery factory.
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perthjay85 wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:The backward part of Australia (we are neanderthals when it comes to grasping environmental issues), is the Tesla S shouldn't cop any luxury car tax. It's only expensive to cover the cost of the batteries. That would be by next question. How long do they last? Where do we dump them when they're dead? -PB I have done a bit of digging about this. Expected lifespan of batteries is at least 8 years with unlimited km's, however the batteries will decrease in output over that time. so maybe 6-10 years. In USA I believe the 85kw batteries cost around $10,000, so if we gues $17,500 here that should have you covered hopefully. As far as dumping of the batteries it wouldn't suprise me if in the future Tesla recycle them through their new battery factory. Internal combustion engine cars also lose power & range over time. The wear and tear on them is far worse than electric cars. As for lithium batteries, they are fully recyclable. It's the older generation lead acid & nickel cadmium batteries that had low recyclability and ended up in landfill.
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Quote:Tesla is preparing to announce 2 vehicles in March We’ve seen the Chevy Bolt (not just seen, driven!) so, in March, it is Tesla’s turn to unveil its US$30,000 long-range electric car. We’ve had a steady stream of whispers on the Model 3 but are unable to verify much of what we’ve heard. The biggest tidbit I’ve heard from a second-hand source is that Tesla is readying at least 2 different versions of its Model 3 for the March launch. One version is a sedan and another is a small crossover built on the same platform. I can’t verify if the crossover is the Model Y that Elon Musk mentioned in a Tweetstorm last year, but that would make some sense. We’ve heard that this vehicle will be a smaller version of the Model X with its Falcon Wing doors. Again, it will have a premium price over the Model 3 similar to the $5,000 difference between the Model X and Model S. I decided to hold off on publishing this info until I saw Tesla’s Hong Kong presentation this week, which included two cars under wraps (pictured above). Yes, obviously, the artwork is simply a Model X and Model S under digital covers, but the fact that there are two cars to be unveiled adds a little more credence to what I’ve heard. We broke the news in March of 2014 that the Model 3 platform would be more than just a sedan with the leaked slide presentation below which first mentions “Crossover”.... http://electrek.co/2016/01/28/model-3-surprise-tesla-march-vehicle-announcement/
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Electric car companies are rorting tax payers and investors big time. Governments are happy to throw the peoples money at them though because it looks good and the great unwashed lap it up.
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Unshackled wrote:Electric car companies are rorting tax payers and investors big time. Governments are happy to throw the peoples money at them though because it looks good and the great unwashed lap it up. Not even close to balancing the cumulative ledger for the fossil fuel and car industry since the first Model T came off the production line
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Unshackled wrote:Electric car companies are rorting tax payers and investors big time. Governments are happy to throw the peoples money at them though because it looks good and the great unwashed lap it up. yes, so? just another reason why oil is dead
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Tesla is killing Mercedes, Audi & BMW in the luxury car market :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote:Tesla demonstrated its catastrophic affect on the US luxury car market with a simple table. If you start at the bottom, the market is at about 100,000 cars a year and it’s basically unchanged from 2014 to 2015. The market is for “large luxury” cars and includes not only the Model S but Audi’s A7 and A8, BMW’s 6 and 7 series, the Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS Mercedes CLS and S Class and the Porsche Panamera. Each of these models has fallen in sales from almost 5%-over 15% from 2014-2015. Where did these sales go? Boom! The Tesla Model S is up over 50% going from 16,689 to 25,202 units from 2014 to 2015... http://electrek.co/2016/02/10/tesla-shows-how-the-model-s-is-totally-disrupting-the-large-luxury-car-market-in-the-us/
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:Tesla is killing Mercedes, Audi & BMW in the luxury car market :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote:Tesla demonstrated its catastrophic affect on the US luxury car market with a simple table. If you start at the bottom, the market is at about 100,000 cars a year and it’s basically unchanged from 2014 to 2015. The market is for “large luxury” cars and includes not only the Model S but Audi’s A7 and A8, BMW’s 6 and 7 series, the Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS Mercedes CLS and S Class and the Porsche Panamera. Each of these models has fallen in sales from almost 5%-over 15% from 2014-2015. Where did these sales go? Boom! The Tesla Model S is up over 50% going from 16,689 to 25,202 units from 2014 to 2015... http://electrek.co/2016/02/10/tesla-shows-how-the-model-s-is-totally-disrupting-the-large-luxury-car-market-in-the-us/ Still rather drive an S class Mercedes than some electric hippy mobile
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scotty21 wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:Tesla is killing Mercedes, Audi & BMW in the luxury car market :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote:Tesla demonstrated its catastrophic affect on the US luxury car market with a simple table. If you start at the bottom, the market is at about 100,000 cars a year and it’s basically unchanged from 2014 to 2015. The market is for “large luxury” cars and includes not only the Model S but Audi’s A7 and A8, BMW’s 6 and 7 series, the Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS Mercedes CLS and S Class and the Porsche Panamera. Each of these models has fallen in sales from almost 5%-over 15% from 2014-2015. Where did these sales go? Boom! The Tesla Model S is up over 50% going from 16,689 to 25,202 units from 2014 to 2015... http://electrek.co/2016/02/10/tesla-shows-how-the-model-s-is-totally-disrupting-the-large-luxury-car-market-in-the-us/ Still rather drive an S class Mercedes than some electric hippy mobile I've own S-class Mercedes in past , and if you're driving yourself then you would buy Telsa model S over Mercedes S-class, Telsa car is the most advanced car on the market , which is what Mercedes S-class use to be ....if you're using Mercedes S-class in a limousine type of situation (have a driver) then ok, but if driving yourself , Telsa model S just so fucking unique
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U.S. Sales of Large Luxury Vehicles 2015 Tesla Model S 25,202 Mercedes-Benz S-Class 21,934 BMW 7-Series 9,292 BMW 6-Series 8,146 Audi A7 7,721 Lexus LS 7,165 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class 6,152 Audi A8 4,990 Porsche Panamera 4,985 Jaguar XJ 3,611
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scotty21 wrote:Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:Tesla is killing Mercedes, Audi & BMW in the luxury car market :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote:Tesla demonstrated its catastrophic affect on the US luxury car market with a simple table. If you start at the bottom, the market is at about 100,000 cars a year and it’s basically unchanged from 2014 to 2015. The market is for “large luxury” cars and includes not only the Model S but Audi’s A7 and A8, BMW’s 6 and 7 series, the Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS Mercedes CLS and S Class and the Porsche Panamera. Each of these models has fallen in sales from almost 5%-over 15% from 2014-2015. Where did these sales go? Boom! The Tesla Model S is up over 50% going from 16,689 to 25,202 units from 2014 to 2015... http://electrek.co/2016/02/10/tesla-shows-how-the-model-s-is-totally-disrupting-the-large-luxury-car-market-in-the-us/ Still rather drive an S class Mercedes than some electric hippy mobile I am pretty confident that the pioneering adventurers that took Homo Erectus out of Africa would have been left wing
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Quote:Mercedes selects a li-ion battery cell supplier for Its upcoming line of electric vehicles SK Innovation, a battery cell maker part of the South Korea-based chemical and energy conglomerate SK, confirmed (via GreenCarCongress) that it has been selected as the supplier of battery cells for Mercedes’ upcoming line of electric vehicles. Last month, Daimler green-lighted 4 new long-range electric vehicles, which will reportedly be two sedans and two crossover SUVs. The automaker will need an important volume of battery cells if it plans to manufacture these upcoming vehicles in significant volume.... http://electrek.co/2016/02/18/mercedes-select-a-li-ion-battery-cell-supplier-for-its-upcoming-line-of-electric-vehicles/
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Quote:The Kochs Are Plotting A Multimillion-Dollar Assault On Electric Vehicles A new group could spend $10 million a year on the campaign. The oil and gas industry may have thought it had killed the electric car, but sales -- boosted by generous government subsidies -- rose dramatically between 2010 and 2014, and energy giants are worried the thing may have come back to life. Time to kill it again. A new group that's being cobbled together with fossil fuel backing hopes to spend about $10 million dollars per year to boost petroleum-based transportation fuels and attack government subsidies for electric vehicles, according to refining industry sources familiar with the plan. A Koch Industries board member and a veteran Washington energy lobbyist are working quietly to fund and launch the new advocacy outfit. Koch Industries, the nation's second-largest privately held corporation, is an energy and industrial conglomerate with $115 billion in annual revenues that is controlled by the multibillionaire brothers -- and prolific conservative donors -- Charles and David Koch. James Mahoney, a confidante of the brothers and member of their company's board, has teamed up with lobbyist Charlie Drevna, who until last year helmed the American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers, for preliminary talks with several energy giants about funding the new pro-petroleum fuels group.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/koch-electric-vehicles_us_56c4d63ce4b0b40245c8cbf6?section=australia
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:Quote:Mercedes selects a li-ion battery cell supplier for Its upcoming line of electric vehicles SK Innovation, a battery cell maker part of the South Korea-based chemical and energy conglomerate SK, confirmed (via GreenCarCongress) that it has been selected as the supplier of battery cells for Mercedes’ upcoming line of electric vehicles. Last month, Daimler green-lighted 4 new long-range electric vehicles, which will reportedly be two sedans and two crossover SUVs. The automaker will need an important volume of battery cells if it plans to manufacture these upcoming vehicles in significant volume.... http://electrek.co/2016/02/18/mercedes-select-a-li-ion-battery-cell-supplier-for-its-upcoming-line-of-electric-vehicles/ the problem for all other car company, is Telsa will be make 60% of the worlds Lithium battery when gigafactory start soon...
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:Quote:The Kochs Are Plotting A Multimillion-Dollar Assault On Electric Vehicles A new group could spend $10 million a year on the campaign. The oil and gas industry may have thought it had killed the electric car, but sales -- boosted by generous government subsidies -- rose dramatically between 2010 and 2014, and energy giants are worried the thing may have come back to life. Time to kill it again. A new group that's being cobbled together with fossil fuel backing hopes to spend about $10 million dollars per year to boost petroleum-based transportation fuels and attack government subsidies for electric vehicles, according to refining industry sources familiar with the plan. A Koch Industries board member and a veteran Washington energy lobbyist are working quietly to fund and launch the new advocacy outfit. Koch Industries, the nation's second-largest privately held corporation, is an energy and industrial conglomerate with $115 billion in annual revenues that is controlled by the multibillionaire brothers -- and prolific conservative donors -- Charles and David Koch. James Mahoney, a confidante of the brothers and member of their company's board, has teamed up with lobbyist Charlie Drevna, who until last year helmed the American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers, for preliminary talks with several energy giants about funding the new pro-petroleum fuels group.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/koch-electric-vehicles_us_56c4d63ce4b0b40245c8cbf6?section=australia $10 million a year? that all ! the name of the game for oil today is, dig the oil out of the ground as fast as you can , and sell the oil at any prices....because if in 10 years time, you have any oil left in the ground , that oil will be staying there
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