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aussie scott21
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Back to top wrote:
Who won the premiership ?
Im not sure, I didnt see any team celebrate on tv.
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loki
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lolitsbigmic wrote:scott21 wrote:Someguy wrote:The Premier's Plate is seen as insignificant by many simply because it is. It is little more than a Frankenstein's monster of a league season designed to fill out as many fixtures before going to Finals Series. Until such a day that we actually have a proper home and away season, that is something that isn't simply part of Australian sporting culture, but makes perfect sense in and of itself. To that end, a 15-16 team competition would be ideal. I agree about playing each other 3 times but disagree with your main point. The FFA has marketed it wrong. Perhaps in the beginning of the league more emphasis was needed for the GF. Today it is just a missed opportunity. The league and the finals should be viewed as 2 comps. The league is the league and an important title but also functions as a qualifier for the finals. The GF will always be the most important but clubs should strive to finish first not just make the top 6. I heard a butthurt McKay saying no one remembers the premiers..... I bet he and you will remember not winning it this season. You blew it. Deal with it. One thing i would like to see is like the south american two season league. two sets of home away seasons, the top two of the table overall plus the top two of each "season" go into to the final series. Specially when pro rel looks a long way off. But i am always a final series kind of guy. Consistency one thing, but stepping up for the big games it where it matters when you are forced to play against top teams to win. Very really we see what we saw last weekend, actually we never have. Most of the time the top are already decided 7 games to go and It is like player, being consistently good is one thing, but also stepping up for the big game separates the good players from the greats. To me it an aussie tradition the NSL has been doing it for ages. i think japan went back to final series just recently. I wouldn't really say butthurt with McKay comments, no one remembers CCM winning the premiership when we went back to back. all we remember is the roar winning the final and ccm trying to make up for the GF losses with putting stars on their shirt for the plate. It wasn't until the year after when CCM won the grand final where they consider champions and those premierships meant insignificant to that one toilet seat. You've got a very selective memory here. There's only ever be 3 times out of 11 seasons where the premier hasn't been decided in the final round of matches. I'm guessing because Roar was two of them it's slipped your notice. There have also been some pretty exciting final rounds: 09/10: Victory only needs a draw at Sydney to take the Premiership, loses 2-0 08/09: Victory and Adelaide are tied on points and goal difference but Victory had a better goals for, Adelaide were 1-0 up for most of their game and could never get the second goal that would've tipped them over 07/08: Four teams can win the premiership on the final weekend, Roar were top and favourites but choked away against Adelaide (who, ironically, were the sixth placed side... your reasons for disliking premierships could be coming out) It was really only between 11 and 14 when the premiership wasn't as tight. Edited by loki: 13/4/2016 07:28:29 PM
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Aljay
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Unpopular opinion : Craig Foster has markedly improved and is now Australia's best football analyst and TV pundit.
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Kamaryn
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Sometimes football needs active support because nothing happens for large stretches of our game... *gets burned as a heretic*
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aussie scott21
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I hope Tim Cahill retires from internationals after the next world cup and doesnt try to play in the Asian Cup even if he is good enough to make the squad.
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Aikhme
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Kamaryn wrote:Sometimes football needs active support because nothing happens for large stretches of our game... *gets burned as a heretic* I agree, that we need active support like this. 
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Aikhme wrote:Kamaryn wrote:Sometimes football needs active support because nothing happens for large stretches of our game... *gets burned as a heretic* I agree, that we need active support like this. Hnng
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scott21 wrote:I hope Tim Cahill retires from internationals after the next world cup and doesnt try to play in the Asian Cup even if he is good enough to make the squad. That opinion isnt entirely unpopular.
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aussie scott21
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TheSelectFew wrote:scott21 wrote:I hope Tim Cahill retires from internationals after the next world cup and doesnt try to play in the Asian Cup even if he is good enough to make the squad. That opinion isnt entirely unpopular. OK. Ange should step down as Socceroos manager after the WC to pursue a job in Europe and Popa should take over and get a go at the Asian Cup.
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aussie scott21
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When the A-League eventually expands the FFA should at least play 2 fixtures at the same time each week.
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* The Red Army aren't as bad as everyone makes them out to be. * Expansion should never happen in South Australia. Adelaide City and West Adelaide's supporter bases are non-existent and their inclusion would only serve to disrupt Adelaide United (who are a club for the whole state) and their growth. * Promotion and relegation in the near distant future is essential for the development of football in Australia.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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RedKat
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Milos Ninkovic is the best player in the league at the moment. Graham Arnold is a good coach. A Shire Team is a terrible idea and any of Campbelltown, Wollongong and Canberra would be far better if we went with another NSW team. We shouldn't expand in NSW next.
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SFC should relocate to their beloved support base of Cronulla and call them selves South Sydney.
A new Sydney team called Sydney City should come in with the kahoonies to engage metropolitan Sydney and spare the rest of Australia from endless whinging about their support base.
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+xMilos Ninkovic is the best player in the league at the moment. Graham Arnold is a good coach. A Shire Team is a terrible idea and any of Campbelltown, Wollongong and Canberra would be far better if we went with another NSW team. We shouldn't expand in NSW next. I don't think any of those are unpopular opinions. The first two, some people are just too proud to admit. The second two seem to be a common consensus on here. I disagree and consider myself on the unpopular side of those arguments based on the weight of evidence on here and other forums.
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+x* The Red Army aren't as bad as everyone makes them out to be. * Expansion should never happen in South Australia. Adelaide City and West Adelaide's supporter bases are non-existent and their inclusion would only serve to disrupt Adelaide United (who are a club for the whole state) and their growth. * Promotion and relegation in the near distant future is essential for the development of football in Australia. Any NPL team has low support, a lot of people I know are disenchanted from AUFC and would certainly jump onto a second A-League team in Adelaide and would definitely attend for its first few seasons at least. Proper organisation and running is essential because the main reason these people don't follow United anymore is the lacklustre ownership strategy. Personally, I find the league so stale nowadays. Only games I watch are Adelaide games and derbies and that's only if I have nothing on. Especially this season now Adelaide have won it I feel like I've lost interest as what else can we do? We aren't going to win it any time soon and we've FINALLY won the big one. I guess thats just me though because in football I have not often been in the situation of champions. People that follow Man United and Real Madrid might feel differently because they are used to success. Failure definitely makes success more rewarding and appetising.
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+x+x* The Red Army aren't as bad as everyone makes them out to be. * Expansion should never happen in South Australia. Adelaide City and West Adelaide's supporter bases are non-existent and their inclusion would only serve to disrupt Adelaide United (who are a club for the whole state) and their growth. * Promotion and relegation in the near distant future is essential for the development of football in Australia. Any NPL team has low support, a lot of people I know are disenchanted from AUFC and would certainly jump onto a second A-League team in Adelaide and would definitely attend for its first few seasons at least. Proper organisation and running is essential because the main reason these people don't follow United anymore is the lacklustre ownership strategy. Personally, I find the league so stale nowadays. Only games I watch are Adelaide games and derbies and that's only if I have nothing on. Especially this season now Adelaide have won it I feel like I've lost interest as what else can we do? We aren't going to win it any time soon and we've FINALLY won the big one. I guess thats just me though because in football I have not often been in the situation of champions. People that follow Man United and Real Madrid might feel differently because they are used to success. Failure definitely makes success more rewarding and appetising. Tbh I feel the same way For years the carrot that is the championship has been dangled in front of us and twice we've almost reached it. Now that we've got both the premiership and championship, it's like "Soooo what now?".
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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+x+x* The Red Army aren't as bad as everyone makes them out to be. * Expansion should never happen in South Australia. Adelaide City and West Adelaide's supporter bases are non-existent and their inclusion would only serve to disrupt Adelaide United (who are a club for the whole state) and their growth. * Promotion and relegation in the near distant future is essential for the development of football in Australia. Personally, I find the league so stale nowadays. Only games I watch are Adelaide games and derbies and that's only if I have nothing on. Especially this season now Adelaide have won it I feel like I've lost interest as what else can we do? We aren't going to win it any time soon and we've FINALLY won the big one. I guess thats just me though because in football I have not often been in the situation of champions. People that follow Man United and Real Madrid might feel differently because they are used to success. Failure definitely makes success more rewarding and appetising. I'll drink to that. The 10 same teams every season is just boringggg . Lack of relegation makes the bottom half of the table uninteresting too. Need to raise the stakes
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Says the fans of the team at the bottom of the ladder lol
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+xMilos Ninkovic is the best player in the league at the moment. Graham Arnold is a good coach. A Shire Team is a terrible idea and any of Campbelltown, Wollongong and Canberra would be far better if we went with another NSW team. We shouldn't expand in NSW next. Ninkovic and Rojas are both a class above right now, and both not marquees. It's great to see players under the cap having a significant impact. Think Ninkovic will only get better when someone like Ibini is playing as well with the movement he offers.
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We should play New Zealand and Fiji in a ANZ Bank Summer Soccer Tri-Series each January. It will really help us prepare for the Asian Qualifiers later in the year.
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What is lauded as 'possession based football' in the A-league is often turgid, dull and aimless passing of the ball around the midfield/defence with little chance of crafting opportunities outside of colossal fuck ups from the opposition.
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+xWhat is lauded as 'possession based football' in the A-league is often turgid, dull and aimless passing of the ball around the midfield/defence with little chance of crafting opportunities outside of colossal fuck ups from the opposition. Apart from Ange's sides I don't think anyone has been able to play consistent possession football in Australia.
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+xSFC should relocate to their beloved support base of Cronulla and call them selves South Sydney.A new Sydney team called Sydney City should come in with the kahoonies to engage metropolitan Sydney and spare the rest of Australia from endless whinging about their support base. What the hell do you mean "metropolitan Sydney"? I have never heard someone from Sydney use that phrase.
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loki
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+x+xWhat is lauded as 'possession based football' in the A-league is often turgid, dull and aimless passing of the ball around the midfield/defence with little chance of crafting opportunities outside of colossal fuck ups from the opposition. Apart from Ange's sides I don't think anyone has been able to play consistent possession football in Australia. Pretty much. Doesn't stop commentators losing their mind whenever a team manages to string five passes together though.
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+x+x+xWhat is lauded as 'possession based football' in the A-league is often turgid, dull and aimless passing of the ball around the midfield/defence with little chance of crafting opportunities outside of colossal fuck ups from the opposition. Apart from Ange's sides I don't think anyone has been able to play consistent possession football in Australia. Pretty much. Doesn't stop commentators losing their mind whenever a team manages to string five passes together though. If you're going to be critical of other teams "possession football" Ange's sides were no better. It was endless side to side passing.
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+x+x+x+xWhat is lauded as 'possession based football' in the A-league is often turgid, dull and aimless passing of the ball around the midfield/defence with little chance of crafting opportunities outside of colossal fuck ups from the opposition. Apart from Ange's sides I don't think anyone has been able to play consistent possession football in Australia. Pretty much. Doesn't stop commentators losing their mind whenever a team manages to string five passes together though. If you're going to be critical of other teams "possession football" Ange's sides were no better. It was endless side to side passing. Ange has won things though. I personally think possession football is pointless unless you have players who are technically good enough to do it. In Australia we don't don't have many capable of that, combined with A-League sides drastically improving in regards to pressing tactics in recent years. It makes for some comical turnovers and silly goals, thats for sure.
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+x+x+x+xWhat is lauded as 'possession based football' in the A-league is often turgid, dull and aimless passing of the ball around the midfield/defence with little chance of crafting opportunities outside of colossal fuck ups from the opposition. Apart from Ange's sides I don't think anyone has been able to play consistent possession football in Australia. Pretty much. Doesn't stop commentators losing their mind whenever a team manages to string five passes together though. If you're going to be critical of other teams "possession football" Ange's sides were no better. It was endless side to side passing. It was more than side to side passing lol They scored 64 goals in 2010-11 and 57 goals in 2011-12 which were both the highest for each season, if that is what "side passing" gets you then i'll take it.
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loki
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+x+x+x+xWhat is lauded as 'possession based football' in the A-league is often turgid, dull and aimless passing of the ball around the midfield/defence with little chance of crafting opportunities outside of colossal fuck ups from the opposition. Apart from Ange's sides I don't think anyone has been able to play consistent possession football in Australia. Pretty much. Doesn't stop commentators losing their mind whenever a team manages to string five passes together though. If you're going to be critical of other teams "possession football" Ange's sides were no better. It was endless side to side passing. Did what it said on the box though, starved the opposition of opportunities and bored opposition teams into submission by moving the ball from side to side until the final pass was on. Overall it's a pretty boring way to play, even Spain at their best were intolerable to watch at points with their insistence on waiting for the perfect opportunity. Give me audacious, low percentage but sweet to watch football any day.
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+x+x+x+x+xWhat is lauded as 'possession based football' in the A-league is often turgid, dull and aimless passing of the ball around the midfield/defence with little chance of crafting opportunities outside of colossal fuck ups from the opposition. Apart from Ange's sides I don't think anyone has been able to play consistent possession football in Australia. Pretty much. Doesn't stop commentators losing their mind whenever a team manages to string five passes together though. If you're going to be critical of other teams "possession football" Ange's sides were no better. It was endless side to side passing. Did what it said on the box though, starved the opposition of opportunities and bored opposition teams into submission by moving the ball from side to side until the final pass was on. Overall it's a pretty boring way to play, even Spain at their best were intolerable to watch at points with their insistence on waiting for the perfect opportunity. Give me audacious, low percentage but sweet to watch football any day. I'm not really against the point of your original "unpopular opinion" just that putting Ange's teams up as some special case where they did it better than more recent teams is fallacious. Teams have gotten better at dealing with it, as sydneyfc1987 points out.
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Sydney FC will beat Brisbane and Adelaide to hold the best start to an A-League season ever and in between claim the ffa cup. And people will still not view them as favourites to win the first treble.
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