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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Where the kids born here or over in lebanon? So many conflicting stories I'm certain that they were born in Australia but were raised in Lebanon.
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paulbagzFC wrote:tsf wrote:sokorny wrote: The question has to be asked though why he didn't go through the family court in Australia?? Because he's lebanese and lives in lebanon. He went through their court. Which backs fathers. -PB Maybe, I don't know the legal system there. However, I know the legal system here backs mothers so if what you say is true then they're the same but complete opposite :d
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Read somewhere she can get bail if the father and her come to an agreement . The 60 mis crew dont get that deal.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Hope they get absolutely fisted by a Lebanese court.
The mother sounds like a piece of shit as well. Media Watch reported that kids were raised in Lebanon and that she was the first to snatch them and cut up there passports and then sat on her arse on welfare and had another kid with some other bloke. Meanwhile the father has a decent business in Beirut and was determined to return there so he could actually support the kids because he couldn't get work in Australia.
Happy to see this go towards the father. Which he doesn't get if he goes through the courts here. The mother would get custody despite being a piece of shit.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:The mother is guilty of being naive and trusting, which is hardly a crime and anyone with morsel of compassion would sympathise with why she did it. The execution of the kidnap though was bizarre. Guns, assault, Hezbollah, etc , wtf? You seem to know a lot more than I do, have you been watching 60 minutes?
Is our gender biased legal system better because it favours mothers and not fathers? I'm pretty sure in Australia if a mother kidnapped her children and moved to another state the courts were return the children to the father if he had sole custody. The issue here is that the father lied to the mother and effectively stole the children off her since she had sole custody in Australia. The situation is gender irrelevant I would feel the same if the mother did the same thing to a father - such as those three half Italian sisters who were correctly taken from their mother and returned to father in Italy who was their legal guardian. Edited by rusty: 15/4/2016 02:45:59 PM
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rusty wrote:11.mvfc.11 wrote:The mother is guilty of being naive and trusting, which is hardly a crime and anyone with morsel of compassion would sympathise with why she did it. The execution of the kidnap though was bizarre. Guns, assault, Hezbollah, etc , wtf? You seem to know a lot more than I do, have you been watching 60 minutes?
Is our gender biased legal system better because it favours mothers and not fathers? I'm pretty sure in Australia if a mother kidnapped her children and moved to another state the courts were return the children to the father if he had sole custody. The issue here is that the father lied to the mother and effectively stole the children off her since she had sole custody in Australia. The situation is gender irrelevant I would feel the same if the mother did the same thing to a father - such as those three half Italian sisters who were correctly taken from their mother and returned to father in Italy who was their legal guardian. Edited by rusty: 15/4/2016 02:45:59 PM Who she stole first. She doesn't have the morale high ground on this.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Who she stole first. She doesn't have the morale high ground on this. How do you know she stole the children? My understanding was they were living in Lebabon, a bomb went off nearby and they mutually agreed to move with the children to Australia, but he was to stay in Lebanon due to continue running business. And why if she stole the children, would she let them go to Lebanon with him and trust him to return them?
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Where did a bomb going off from???????
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rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Who she stole first. She doesn't have the morale high ground on this. How do you know she stole the children? My understanding was they were living in Lebabon, a bomb went off nearby and they mutually agreed to move with the children to Australia, but he was to stay in Lebanon due to continue running business. And why if she stole the children, would she let them go to Lebanon with him and trust him to return them? Did you just willfully ignore the bit where she tore up the passports? There is no quote anywhere saying they mutually agreed to move to Australia, the father is on record saying that following that incident, she took the kids to visit her parents but ended up staying there and destroyed her passports, thus expecting the father to have to come to Australia to have a life with them despite having no job there. She is literally just as bad as the man she is trying to slag off but she is the only one dumb enough to try and actually kidnap the kids of the street.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Where did a bomb going off from??????? Whilst they were all living in Beirut, a bomb went off in Beirut, prompting the Mother to take the children and return to Australia under the guise of visiting her parents.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Who she stole first. She doesn't have the morale high ground on this. How do you know she stole the children? My understanding was they were living in Lebabon, a bomb went off nearby and they mutually agreed to move with the children to Australia, but he was to stay in Lebanon due to continue running business. And why if she stole the children, would she let them go to Lebanon with him and trust him to return them? Did you just willfully ignore the bit where she tore up the passports? if she tore up the passports, how did they end up on a flight out of the country?
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You ignore the statement where she tore them up in Australia once she got out lebanon.
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rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Who she stole first. She doesn't have the morale high ground on this. How do you know she stole the children? My understanding was they were living in Lebabon, a bomb went off nearby and they mutually agreed to move with the children to Australia, but he was to stay in Lebanon due to continue running business. And why if she stole the children, would she let them go to Lebanon with him and trust him to return them? Did you just willfully ignore the bit where she tore up the passports? if she tore up the passports, how did they end up on a flight out of the country? Some point after the Father came back, he asked the mother if he could take the kids to visit their Grandmother in Beirut. She agreed to that, for whatever reason, which means it's very likely that she would have signed off on new passports. It's hardly out of the question that she is capable of flip flopping on an issue and making retarded decisions like that. It is however becoming clear as day though that you are being willfully ignorant and are just picking the mothers side so you can keep slagging off the middle east. :roll:
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melbourne_terrace wrote:rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Who she stole first. She doesn't have the morale high ground on this. How do you know she stole the children? My understanding was they were living in Lebabon, a bomb went off nearby and they mutually agreed to move with the children to Australia, but he was to stay in Lebanon due to continue running business. And why if she stole the children, would she let them go to Lebanon with him and trust him to return them? Did you just willfully ignore the bit where she tore up the passports? There is no quote anywhere saying they mutually agreed to move to Australia, the father is on record saying that following that incident, she took the kids to visit her parents but ended up staying there and destroyed her passports, thus expecting the father to have to come to Australia to have a life with them despite having no job there. She is literally just as bad as the man she is trying to slag off but she is the only one dumb enough to try and actually kidnap the kids of the street. Cannot believe a TV crew would be so stupid to get this tied up in this. The story would have been just as juicy and powerful if they gave her the cash to go over in return for an interview if she made it out ok.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Who she stole first. She doesn't have the morale high ground on this. How do you know she stole the children? My understanding was they were living in Lebabon, a bomb went off nearby and they mutually agreed to move with the children to Australia, but he was to stay in Lebanon due to continue running business. And why if she stole the children, would she let them go to Lebanon with him and trust him to return them? Did you just willfully ignore the bit where she tore up the passports? if she tore up the passports, how did they end up on a flight out of the country? Some point after the Father came back, he asked the mother if he could take the kids to visit their Grandmother in Beirut. She agreed to that, for whatever reason, which means it's very likely that she would have signed off on new passports. It's hardly out of the question that she is capable of flip flopping on an issue and making retarded decisions like that. It is however becoming clear as day though that you are being willfully ignorant and are just picking the mothers side so you can keep slagging off the middle east. :roll: Is that what actually happened though, or are you just making shit up? Although it's possible she abducted the children from Lebanon, tore up their passports, threatened the father he would might not see them again, and then after all this have a sudden change of heart , got the kids brand new shiny passports and happily waived goodbye at the airport to embark on their exciting holiday to Hezbollah bomb territory, the likelier scenario is that after bombs were going off they mutually decided it would safer for the kids to live in Australia, with their mother , rather than risk getting blown to bits in Lebabon. I guess it's his word against hers, but so far he is the one with a proven history of lying.
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Yep confirmed rusty is just using this to shit over the middle east again.
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rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Who she stole first. She doesn't have the morale high ground on this. How do you know she stole the children? My understanding was they were living in Lebabon, a bomb went off nearby and they mutually agreed to move with the children to Australia, but he was to stay in Lebanon due to continue running business. And why if she stole the children, would she let them go to Lebanon with him and trust him to return them? Did you just willfully ignore the bit where she tore up the passports? if she tore up the passports, how did they end up on a flight out of the country? Some point after the Father came back, he asked the mother if he could take the kids to visit their Grandmother in Beirut. She agreed to that, for whatever reason, which means it's very likely that she would have signed off on new passports. It's hardly out of the question that she is capable of flip flopping on an issue and making retarded decisions like that. It is however becoming clear as day though that you are being willfully ignorant and are just picking the mothers side so you can keep slagging off the middle east. :roll: Is that what actually happened though, or are you just making shit up? Although it's possible she abducted the children from Lebanon, tore up their passports, threatened the father he would might not see them again, and then after all this have a sudden change of heart , got the kids brand new shiny passports and happily waived goodbye at the airport to embark on their exciting holiday to Hezbollah bomb territory, the likelier scenario is that after bombs were going off they mutually decided it would safer for the kids to live in Australia, with their mother , rather than risk getting blown to bits in Lebabon. I guess it's his word against hers, but so far he is the one with a proven history of lying. I'm basing my theory on quotes and reports from Media sources ranging from the ABC's media watch to Fairfax and even the fkn Daily Mail, all of which are pretty consistent in what sources and evidence they are using. You have provided nothing but your own bollocks to suit your own ridiculous crusade. http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s4441348.htmhttp://www.smh.com.au/national/60-minutes-kidnap-charge-mother-sally-faulkner-was-looking-at-never-seeing-her-babies-again-20160413-go51j1.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3532149/Malcolm-Turnbull-keeps-mum-Sally-Faulkner-60-Minutes-crew.htmlEdited by melbourne_terrace: 15/4/2016 04:28:40 PM
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Yep confirmed rusty is just using this to shit over the middle east again. Not even trying to hide it.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:rusty wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Who she stole first. She doesn't have the morale high ground on this. How do you know she stole the children? My understanding was they were living in Lebabon, a bomb went off nearby and they mutually agreed to move with the children to Australia, but he was to stay in Lebanon due to continue running business. And why if she stole the children, would she let them go to Lebanon with him and trust him to return them? Did you just willfully ignore the bit where she tore up the passports? if she tore up the passports, how did they end up on a flight out of the country? Some point after the Father came back, he asked the mother if he could take the kids to visit their Grandmother in Beirut. She agreed to that, for whatever reason, which means it's very likely that she would have signed off on new passports. It's hardly out of the question that she is capable of flip flopping on an issue and making retarded decisions like that. It is however becoming clear as day though that you are being willfully ignorant and are just picking the mothers side so you can keep slagging off the middle east. :roll: Is that what actually happened though, or are you just making shit up? Although it's possible she abducted the children from Lebanon, tore up their passports, threatened the father he would might not see them again, and then after all this have a sudden change of heart , got the kids brand new shiny passports and happily waived goodbye at the airport to embark on their exciting holiday to Hezbollah bomb territory, the likelier scenario is that after bombs were going off they mutually decided it would safer for the kids to live in Australia, with their mother , rather than risk getting blown to bits in Lebabon. I guess it's his word against hers, but so far he is the one with a proven history of lying. I'm basing my theory on quotes and reports from Media sources ranging from the ABC's media watch to Fairfax and even the fkn Daily Mail, all of which are pretty consistent in what sources and evidence they are using. You have provided nothing but your own bollocks to suit your own ridiculous crusade. http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s4441348.htmhttp://www.smh.com.au/national/60-minutes-kidnap-charge-mother-sally-faulkner-was-looking-at-never-seeing-her-babies-again-20160413-go51j1.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3532149/Malcolm-Turnbull-keeps-mum-Sally-Faulkner-60-Minutes-crew.htmlEdited by melbourne_terrace: 15/4/2016 04:28:40 PM Which of those articles supports your fucked theory? Again the notion that she would kidnap the children and rip up their passports only to suddenly do an about face and get them shiny new ones before couriering them back to their father for a fun jolly holiday is doubtful. After all she let him visit his kids in Australia whenever he wanted, and was decent enough to let them go to Lebanon with him, while he hardly lets her speak to her kids at all. So far he is the one proven to lie and to be cruel enough to refuse the mother access to her own children, why should we believe his story that she ripped up the passports? Sadly these issues often come down to a battle of the sexes, I understand fathers get treated like shit by the courts here but that doenst mean dads are always the victims.
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Once again rusty ignoring everything just to shit on the middle east
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My colleague and I called it. It's 100 per cent white privilege. The audacity to think you can bypass all legal avenues because you're in a third world country is laughable. My colleague who is studying to be a lawyer doesn't think they will get the max though. Unfortunate considering they are looking at a max 30 years hard labour.
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Not everything can be dumbed down to white/male/heterosexual priviledge. The simple fact is the kids were living in Australia with their mother, the father took the children to Lebanon under the guise of a holiday and failed to return them. It would be different if she kidnapped the kids into Australia and ripped up their passports, but it must doenst flow logically that she would get them fresh new ones and than them back to their daddy. A woman who steals her kids and rips up passports isnt the kind of woman who hands the kids to father to take on an overseas holiday.
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Lol, anyone using the phrase "white privilege" is a dick. More like typical arrogant journos.
The father is well connected in Lebanon and willing to forgive the mother but not 60 minutes. He is wealthy and powerful enough to discourage anyone from taking a bribe to help them. If they are released expect to see a major concession by the government to Hezbollah/ Iran. Possibilities are Hezbollah/ IRGC to be removed from the terrorism list, the ban to be lifted on broadcasting their propaganda in Australia and allowing welfare payments to be made to those who return to Lebanon.
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Crusader wrote:Lol, anyone using the phrase "white privilege" is a dick. More like typical arrogant journos.
The father is well connected in Lebanon and willing to forgive the mother but not 60 minutes. He is wealthy and powerful enough to discourage anyone from taking a bribe to help them. If they are released expect to see a major concession by the government to Hezbollah/ Iran. Possibilities are Hezbollah/ IRGC to be removed from the terrorism list, the ban to be lifted on broadcasting their propaganda in Australia and allowing welfare payments to be made to those who return to Lebanon. Hwat? ?? Long bow is long
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rusty wrote:Not everything ca4n be dumbed down to white/male/heterosexual priviledge. The simple fact is the kids were living in Australia with their mother, the father took the children to Lebanon under the guise of a holiday and failed to return them. It would be different if she kidnapped the kids into Australia and ripped up their passports, but it must doenst flow logically that she would get them fresh new ones and than them back to their daddy. A woman who steals her kids and rips up passports isnt the kind of woman who hands the kids to father to take on an overseas holiday.
:lol: yeah you cant hide your hatred for the middle east if you tried
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Crusader wrote:Lol, anyone using the phrase "white privilege" is a dick. More like typical arrogant journos.
The father is well connected in Lebanon and willing to forgive the mother but not 60 minutes. He is wealthy and powerful enough to discourage anyone from taking a bribe to help them. If they are released expect to see a major concession by the government to Hezbollah/ Iran. Possibilities are Hezbollah/ IRGC to be removed from the terrorism list, the ban to be lifted on broadcasting their propaganda in Australia and allowing welfare payments to be made to those who return to Lebanon. I hate it but if there was ever a case for it to be made here it is. This is the textbook example.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Crusader wrote:Lol, anyone using the phrase "white privilege" is a dick. More like typical arrogant journos.
The father is well connected in Lebanon and willing to forgive the mother but not 60 minutes. He is wealthy and powerful enough to discourage anyone from taking a bribe to help them. If they are released expect to see a major concession by the government to Hezbollah/ Iran. Possibilities are Hezbollah/ IRGC to be removed from the terrorism list, the ban to be lifted on broadcasting their propaganda in Australia and allowing welfare payments to be made to those who return to Lebanon. Hwat? ?? Long bow is long It is how things work over there. The only way they will avoid a lengthy prison term is if the legal system is leaned on from above and from the direction of the fathers power base, nothing but a significant political concession will be enough.
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Crusader wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Crusader wrote:Lol, anyone using the phrase "white privilege" is a dick. More like typical arrogant journos.
The father is well connected in Lebanon and willing to forgive the mother but not 60 minutes. He is wealthy and powerful enough to discourage anyone from taking a bribe to help them. If they are released expect to see a major concession by the government to Hezbollah/ Iran. Possibilities are Hezbollah/ IRGC to be removed from the terrorism list, the ban to be lifted on broadcasting their propaganda in Australia and allowing welfare payments to be made to those who return to Lebanon. Hwat? ?? Long bow is long It is how things work over there. The only way they will avoid a lengthy prison term is if the legal system is leaned on from above and from the direction of the fathers power base, nothing but a significant political concession will be enough. Oh i know that, but the rest pf your spiel is just ramblings. Leave your personal agenda aside and speak on the case without bias
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Crusader wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Crusader wrote:Lol, anyone using the phrase "white privilege" is a dick. More like typical arrogant journos.
The father is well connected in Lebanon and willing to forgive the mother but not 60 minutes. He is wealthy and powerful enough to discourage anyone from taking a bribe to help them. If they are released expect to see a major concession by the government to Hezbollah/ Iran. Possibilities are Hezbollah/ IRGC to be removed from the terrorism list, the ban to be lifted on broadcasting their propaganda in Australia and allowing welfare payments to be made to those who return to Lebanon. Hwat? ?? Long bow is long It is how things work over there. The only way they will avoid a lengthy prison term is if the legal system is leaned on from above and from the direction of the fathers power base, nothing but a significant political concession will be enough. Oh i know that, but the rest pf your spiel is just ramblings. Leave your personal agenda aside and speak on the case without bias What personal agenda and bias? The political concessions will need to be made to Hezbollah, which is an Iranian proxy, because that is the political bloc with which his extended family is aligned. Making a suitable concession to them will isolate him from his power base, appealing to any other faction gives him no incentive to cooperate.
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