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Key points: EgyptAir flight MS804 vanished while travelling from Paris to Cairo It dropped off the radar 16km inside Egypt's airspace Airline says no distress call was made; aviation officials fear it crashed into sea Search and rescue crews are hunting for the plane, which had 66 people on board DFAT working to determine if any Australians on board -PB
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There is a bit of confusion about exactly where it disappeared from radar. Early reports said it was just inside Egypt airspace but now it seems it might have been just inside Greece airspace. It just disappeared from radar with no loss of speed or altitude which would seem to indicate something quite sudden happened.
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This is from about 3.30pm: http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/may/19/egyptair-plane-cairo-paris-live-updatesAn EgyptAir passenger jet carrying 66 passengers has vanished en route to Cairo. The flight departed from Paris on Wednesday evening and lost contact with ground crews at 2.45am local time, about 16km (10 miles) inside Egyptian airspace. The 12-year-old Airbus A320-232 was about 40 minutes from its destination. It was the aircraft’s fifth flight of the day, including journeys to Asmara, Eritrea and Carthage in Tunisia. The airline’s vice-chairman, Ahmed Abdel, told CNN the plane made no distress call. There were “no recorded snags coming out of Cairo” or reported before leaving Charles de Gaulle, he said. The captain had also recorded more than 6,000 flying hours, including 2,000 hours in that model, Abdel said. There had not been any special cargo or notification of dangerous goods on board, he added.
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Zombies again
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The time of loss of contact with the plane has been moved 15 minutes earlier to 2:30am Cairo time, and there are still varying reports as to where the plane was exactly. It is probably not going to matter where the plane was exactly.
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Drunken_Fish wrote:The time of loss of contact with the plane has been moved 15 minutes earlier to 2:30am Cairo time, and there are still varying reports as to where the plane was exactly. It is probably not going to matter where the plane was exactly. I think it might matter in terms of determining whether there was a ground based missile vs some kind of hostage/terrorist incident/explosion vs mechanical malfunction. Terrible either way. Edited by AzzaMarch: 19/5/2016 04:23:30 PM
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View from the fence wrote:Zombies again Plane sent distress signal, Egypt military says The Egyptian Civil Aviation Ministry says its military unit received a distress signal from the plane at 4:26am (local time). That's more than an hour after the plane's scheduled landing time of 3:05am. Earlier reports from EgyptAir's vice-chairman suggested no distress signal had been sent.
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AzzaMarch wrote:Drunken_Fish wrote:The time of loss of contact with the plane has been moved 15 minutes earlier to 2:30am Cairo time, and there are still varying reports as to where the plane was exactly. It is probably not going to matter where the plane was exactly. I think it might matter in terms of determining whether there was a ground based missile vs some kind of hostage/terrorist incident/explosion vs mechanical malfunction. Terrible either way. Edited by AzzaMarch: 19/5/2016 04:23:30 PM If it disintegrated in mid air, which seems likely, then the debris is going to be spread over a large area and it should be easy to find. If it went down whole, (why wasn't it shown on radar going down?) it might be harder to find but still not that difficult especially as they might have a signal from the plane.
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Summary of what is known so far: http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/may/19/egyptair-plane-cairo-paris-live-updatesFlight MS804, en route from Paris Charles de Gaulle to Cairo, has disappeared from radar. EgyptAir says the plane’s emergency devices – possibly an emergency locator transmitter or beacon – sent a signal that was received at 4.26am, two hours after the last radar contact. The plane, an Airbus A320, left Paris at 11.09pm on Wednesday night (21.09 GMT/22.09 BST/07.09am Thursday AEST). The airline said contact was lost around 16km/10 miles inside Egyptian airspace at 2.30am local time (00.30 GMT/01.30 BST/10.30 AEST). The plane was carrying 56 passengers and 10 crew: two cockpit crew, five cabin crew and three security personnel. The airline said two babies and one child were on board. The airline said among the passengers were 30 Egyptians, 15 French, two Iraqis, and one each from the UK, Belgium, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Chad, Portugal, Algeria and Canada. Search and rescue efforts are underway at the site where contact was lost, around 280km (175 miles) north of Egypt’s coast. Greece has joined the search and operation. The plane, on its fifth journey of the day, was travelling at 37,000 feet when it disappeared from radar. EgyptAir says the captain has 6,275 flying hours, including 2,101 on the A320; the copilot has 2,766. The plane was manufactured in 2003. French prime minister Manuel Valls says “no theory can be ruled out” in investigating the disappearance. There is no detail yet on possible reasons for the plane’s disappearance.
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Interesting to see how they pin this on Russia.
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/may/19/egyptair-plane-cairo-paris-live-updateshttp://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/may/19/egyptair-plane-cairo-paris-live-updates wrote:The director of Greece’s Civil Aviation Authority says air traffic controllers were in contact with the pilot of the EgyptAir flight as it passed through Greek airspace, AP reports.
The director, Konstantinos Lintzerakos, said the plane was at 37,000 feet, traveling at 519 mph, and did not report any problem.
Lyzerakos told private Antenna television that controllers tried to make contact with the pilot 10 miles before the flight exited the Greek Flight Information Range (FIR), but the pilot did not respond. Lyzerakos says controllers continued trying to contact the pilot until 3:39 a.m. Greek time (12.39 GMT) when the plane disappeared from the radar.
Lyzerakos says the plane was in Cairo’s FIR when it vanished.
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Second flight that has disappeared at the 'border' of Air Traffic Control.
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You'd have to be mad to fly with any North african airline wouldn't you ?
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Weird how it was so close to landing after a long flight (many other flights during the day), you would've thought if it was bomb it would go off way earlier in the flight/over europe.
Horrific.
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/may/19/egyptair-plane-cairo-paris-live-updatesGreece issues timeline Greece’s civil aviation department has issued this timeline on MS804’s last moments and attempts to reach it: 02:24: EgyptAir flight 804 from Paris to Cairo enters Greek airspace, air traffic controller permissions it for the remainder of its course. 02:48: The flight is transferred to the next air traffic control sector and is cleared for exit from Greek airspace. “The pilot was in good spirits and thanked the controller in Greek.” 03:27: Athens air traffic control tries to contact the aircraft to convey information on the switch of communications and control from Athens to Cairo air traffic. In spite of repeated calls, the aircraft does not respond, whereupon the air traffic controller calls the distress frequency, without a response from the aircraft. 03:29: It is above the exit point (from Greek airspace). 03:39:40: The aircraft signal is lost, approximately 7 nautical miles south/southeast of the KUMBI point, within Cairo FIR. Immediately the assistance of radars of the Hellenic Air Force is requested to detect the target, without result. 03:45: The processes of search and rescue are initiated, simultaneously informing the Flight Information Region of Cairo.
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In addition to that summary there are reports the plane made sudden swerves before it disappeared from radar. 12 minutes at least the plane was in the air and not in a position to sent out radio communication. This is now looking less like an explosion and more like an aircraft failure or a hi-jacking gone wrong.
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lukerobinho wrote:You'd have to be mad to fly with any North african airline wouldn't you ? Deluded! I bet you think Australian Airlines are the safest on the planet. The only thing safe about it is the weather. :lol:
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The wreckage of plane along with bodies has been found very close to where the plane disappeared from radar.
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Smoke detected in the plane before it went down
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aufc_ole wrote:Smoke detected in the plane before it went down Zombies can't read
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View from the fence wrote:aufc_ole wrote:Smoke detected in the plane before it went down Zombies can't read Neither can most terrorists.
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Eastern Glory wrote:View from the fence wrote:aufc_ole wrote:Smoke detected in the plane before it went down Zombies can't read Neither can most terrorists. Nah, they just read backwards scribble.
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Eastern Glory wrote:View from the fence wrote:aufc_ole wrote:Smoke detected in the plane before it went down Zombies can't read Neither can most terrorists. Yeah, but if you had terrorists on board you wouldn't fly off to the deepest bit of ocean you can reach and then ditch in order to save the rest of mankind MH370 all over again, I'm telling ya
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Viet Guy wrote:View from the fence wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:View from the fence wrote:aufc_ole wrote:Smoke detected in the plane before it went down Zombies can't read Neither can most terrorists. Yeah, but if you had terrorists on board you wouldn't fly off to the deepest bit of ocean you can reach and then ditch in order to save the rest of mankind MH370 all over again, I'm telling ya hijack? Zombies don't do hijack
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Quote:the plane swerved sharply to the left, then to the right, falling 22,000 feet, before disappearing from radar screens at about 10,000 feet.
Why it did not send out a distress signal remains unclear. And investigators so far have no indication as to what caused the plane to suddenly swerve before plummeting out of the sky
No Survivors, only body parts found..........................
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What's the latest?
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Conservative wrote:What's the latest? 66 registered on the flight Unknown number of multi's so the actual death toll much lower
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