Barrier Reef rodent is first mammal declared extinct due to climate change


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University of Queensland and Queensland Government researchers have confirmed that the Bramble Cay melomys – the only mammal species endemic to the Great Barrier Reef - is the first mammal to go extinct due to human-induced climate change.

In a newly published report, the scientists conducted a comprehensive survey in 2014 but failed to find any trace of the rodent.

The rodent was known only to live on a small (4 ha) coral cay, just 340m long and 150m wide in the Torres Strait, between Queensland in Australia and Papua New Guinea.

“Because a limited survey in March 2014 failed to detect the species, Bramble Cay was revisited from August to September 2014, with the explicit aims of establishing whether the Bramble Cay melomys still persisted on the island and to enact emergency measures to conserve any remaining individuals,” Dr Luke Leung of UQ’s School of Agriculture and Food Sciences said.

“A thorough survey effort involving 900 small animal trap-nights, 60 camera trap-nights and two hours of active daytime searches produced no records of the species, confirming that the only known population of this rodent is now extinct.

“Anecdotal information obtained from a professional fisherman who visited Bramble Cay annually for the past 10 years suggested that the last known sighting of the Bramble Cay melomys was made in late 2009.”

Dr Leung said the key factor responsible for the destruction of this population was almost certainly ocean inundation of the low-lying cay, very likely on multiple occasions, during the past decade, causing dramatic habitat loss and perhaps also direct mortality of individuals. The cay sits at most 3m above sea level.

“Available information about sea-level rise and the increased frequency and intensity of weather events producing extreme high water levels and damaging storm surges in the Torres Strait region over this period point to human-induced climate change being the root cause of the loss of the Bramble Cay melomys,” he said.

Dr Leung said the fact that exhaustive efforts had failed to record the rodent at its only known location and extensive surveys had not found it on any other Torres Strait or Great Barrier Reef island gave him confidence in the assertion that Australia had lost another mammal species.

“Significantly, this probably represents the first recorded mammalian extinction due to anthropogenic climate change.

“However, new information is provided in support of a previously presented hypothesis that the Fly River delta of Papua New Guinea is a possible source of the original melomys population on Bramble Cay, so the Bramble Cay melomys or a closely related species might occur there. “

Dr Leung said it could be premature to declare the Bramble Cay melomys extinct on a global scale.

The study was led by Ian Gynther from Queensland’s Department of Environment and Heritage Protection and in partnership with UQ researchers Natalie Waller and Luke Leung.


Sauce.

Remember guys, it's all a hoax and the scientific community is part of a huge conspiracy. You are truly leaving the world a better place for your children.
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Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.
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Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep


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Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.



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Your smarmy little picture doesn't change the facts.
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Toughlove wrote:
Your smarmy little picture doesn't change the facts.


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TheSelectFew wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep

Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.
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Bullion wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep

Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Have you watched Cowspiracy yet?
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University of Queensland and Queensland Government researchers have confirmed that the Bramble Cay melomys – the only mammal species endemic to the Great Barrier Reef - is the first mammal to go extinct due to human-induced climate change.

In a newly published report, the scientists conducted a comprehensive survey in 2014 but failed to find any trace of the rodent.

The rodent was known only to live on a small (4 ha) coral cay, just 340m long and 150m wide in the Torres Strait, between Queensland in Australia and Papua New Guinea.

“Because a limited survey in March 2014 failed to detect the species, Bramble Cay was revisited from August to September 2014, with the explicit aims of establishing whether the Bramble Cay melomys still persisted on the island and to enact emergency measures to conserve any remaining individuals,” Dr Luke Leung of UQ’s School of Agriculture and Food Sciences said.

“A thorough survey effort involving 900 small animal trap-nights, 60 camera trap-nights and two hours of active daytime searches produced no records of the species, confirming that the only known population of this rodent is now extinct.

“Anecdotal information obtained from a professional fisherman who visited Bramble Cay annually for the past 10 years suggested that the last known sighting of the Bramble Cay melomys was made in late 2009.”

Dr Leung said the key factor responsible for the destruction of this population was almost certainly ocean inundation of the low-lying cay, very likely on multiple occasions, during the past decade, causing dramatic habitat loss and perhaps also direct mortality of individuals. The cay sits at most 3m above sea level.

“Available information about sea-level rise and the increased frequency and intensity of weather events producing extreme high water levels and damaging storm surges in the Torres Strait region over this period point to human-induced climate change being the root cause of the loss of the Bramble Cay melomys,” he said.

Dr Leung said the fact that exhaustive efforts had failed to record the rodent at its only known location and extensive surveys had not found it on any other Torres Strait or Great Barrier Reef island gave him confidence in the assertion that Australia had lost another mammal species.

“Significantly, this probably represents the first recorded mammalian extinction due to anthropogenic climate change.

“However, new information is provided in support of a previously presented hypothesis that the Fly River delta of Papua New Guinea is a possible source of the original melomys population on Bramble Cay, so the Bramble Cay melomys or a closely related species might occur there. “

Dr Leung said it could be premature to declare the Bramble Cay melomys extinct on a global scale.

The study was led by Ian Gynther from Queensland’s Department of Environment and Heritage Protection and in partnership with UQ researchers Natalie Waller and Luke Leung.


Sauce.

Remember guys, it's all a hoax and the scientific community is part of a huge conspiracy. You are truly leaving the world a better place for your children.


Damn it if only we kept the carbon tax the reef rodent would still be flourishing.

Damned rodent killing liberals!:x
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Bullion wrote:
Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Interesting.

So we all have to become vegetarian, gay marriage supporting socialists in order to save the world?

Edited by rusty: 16/6/2016 09:48:24 AM
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pv4 wrote:
Bullion wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep

Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Have you watched Cowspiracy yet?

No.
Not high on my priority list for viewing at the moment.
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rusty wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Interesting.

So we all have to become vegetarian vegan, gay marriage supporting socialists in order to save the world?

Edited by rusty: 16/6/2016 09:48:24 AM

Not a silver bullet but would help.
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rusty wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Interesting.

So we all have to become vegetarian, gay marriage supporting socialists in order to save the world?

Edited by rusty: 16/6/2016 09:48:24 AM


Wot?
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rusty wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Interesting.

So we all have to become vegetarian, gay marriage supporting socialists in order to save the world?

Edited by rusty: 16/6/2016 09:48:24 AM


Take a couple hours out of your day to watch the documentarty "Cowspiracy". It puts light on the situation of how unsustainable it is to consume meat & dairy. The facts & figures can't be 100% right that they use, but they still shed light on what could be a serious issue that goes relatively undiscussed compared to other things like how bad coal mining and other things are for the environment, when arguably the biggest threat is non-vegan diets. I'm semi-convinced, yet still too lazy to make the change personally.
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Bullion wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep

Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Wake up to yourself.

5 + Billion of those will be in Asia 2 or 3 + billion will be in Africa and elsewhere.

OECD countries are population neutral or in decline.


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Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep

Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Wake up to yourself.

5 + Billion of those will be in Asia 2 or 3 + billion will be in Africa and elsewhere.

OECD countries are population neutral or in decline.


But OECD countries, per capita, have a much greater impact and also a greater ability, both as a society and at individual level, to make positive changes.
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Bullion wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep

Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Wake up to yourself.

5 + Billion of those will be in Asia 2 or 3 + billion will be in Africa and elsewhere.

OECD countries are population neutral or in decline.


But OECD countries, per capita, have a much greater impact and also a greater ability, both as a society and at individual level, to make positive changes.


Yep.

But if OECD countries went vego and started living in mud huts tomorrow global warming will still happen. Just at a slower rate.
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Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep

Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Wake up to yourself.

5 + Billion of those will be in Asia 2 or 3 + billion will be in Africa and elsewhere.

OECD countries are population neutral or in decline.


But OECD countries, per capita, have a much greater impact and also a greater ability, both as a society and at individual level, to make positive changes.


Yep.

But if OECD countries went vego and started living in mud huts tomorrow global warming will still happen. Just at a slower rate.


A slower rate is better than nothing tbf.
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pv4 wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep

Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Wake up to yourself.

5 + Billion of those will be in Asia 2 or 3 + billion will be in Africa and elsewhere.

OECD countries are population neutral or in decline.


But OECD countries, per capita, have a much greater impact and also a greater ability, both as a society and at individual level, to make positive changes.


Yep.

But if OECD countries went vego and started living in mud huts tomorrow global warming will still happen. Just at a slower rate.


A slower rate is better than nothing tbf.


Really? What difference does it make when you get there in the end?


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pv4 wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep

Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Wake up to yourself.

5 + Billion of those will be in Asia 2 or 3 + billion will be in Africa and elsewhere.

OECD countries are population neutral or in decline.


But OECD countries, per capita, have a much greater impact and also a greater ability, both as a society and at individual level, to make positive changes.


Yep.

But if OECD countries went vego and started living in mud huts tomorrow global warming will still happen. Just at a slower rate.


A slower rate is better than nothing tbf.


not better than being a vego or living in huts

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Toughlove wrote:
pv4 wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep

Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Wake up to yourself.

5 + Billion of those will be in Asia 2 or 3 + billion will be in Africa and elsewhere.

OECD countries are population neutral or in decline.


But OECD countries, per capita, have a much greater impact and also a greater ability, both as a society and at individual level, to make positive changes.


Yep.

But if OECD countries went vego and started living in mud huts tomorrow global warming will still happen. Just at a slower rate.


A slower rate is better than nothing tbf.


Really? What difference does it make when you get there in the end?



Probably several generations.
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Toughlove wrote:
pv4 wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Bullion wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.

You could shut down every coal mine in the world tomorrow but if the population balloons out to 12 billion as they're predicting it'll mean sweet fuck all.


Yep

Those '12 billion' (actually mainly the OECD countries) could change their lifestyle to reduce their impact, something easy like consuming less/no animal products.

You could own the problem and do something or do SFA and leave it for some other person/generation to deal with it.


Wake up to yourself.

5 + Billion of those will be in Asia 2 or 3 + billion will be in Africa and elsewhere.

OECD countries are population neutral or in decline.


But OECD countries, per capita, have a much greater impact and also a greater ability, both as a society and at individual level, to make positive changes.


Yep.

But if OECD countries went vego and started living in mud huts tomorrow global warming will still happen. Just at a slower rate.


A slower rate is better than nothing tbf.


Really? What difference does it make when you get there in the end?



Lots ... gives you more time to manage, adapt to, mitigate etc. the changes and risks.

From an anthropogenic point of view. Funds can be spread across a longer time duration, therefore doesn't cost as much to mitigate / manage risks. e.g. if better water infrastructure is required to deal with diminished supplies I am sure policy makers would rather 20 years to fund, design, plan, construct and implement new infrastructure than 5 years.

From an ecosystem prospect flora and fauna species can adapt resilience or migrate / spread / distribute easier if change is slowed. That is, as their climate changes slowly then habitats may have time to "move" to match the shifting climate (or at least have time for an evolved habitat to be established).

From an agricultural / economic point of view it allows greater time to shift industries with the climate. e.g. if different areas are expected to experience snow (and those with snow at the moment are to experience less snow). A gradual change between the two areas of industry, tourism, services etc. may enable sustainable communities across both rather than a "boom or bust" results. Similarly I believe a lot of French wine growing region is meant to be become unsustainable. A slower shift in the climate region may allow for a gradual scale down in size and possibly establishing another sustainable wine region to substitute this area (thus minimising unemployment, loss of business, loss of income / exports).

To name a few off the top of my simplistic head ...

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Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.


A question for those who have a decent enough understanding of population control in relation to climate change, etc:

Say the average Australian - what is the very roughly agreed upon amount of children they should have, to do their part? 0, 1, 2? How can the average OECD countryman do their part, within reason?

Like, 2.3 children is the average right (why do I know this figure? It must be relevant?)? Is having under that deemed doing your own little part?
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I posted this on Tuesday in the Climate Change forum on here (includes link to the full study):

Thought Murdoch would be on to this one:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/14/first-case-emerges-of-mammal-species-wiped-out-by-human-induced-climate-change

Full study here:

https://www.ehp.qld.gov.au/wildlife/threatened-species/documents/bramble-cay-melomys-survey-report.pdf

It is difficult to know what to make of this, as sometimes these highly localised and specialised species can be great barometers for bigger issues, and other times they can be outliers. It would be interesting to know if other small mammal populations in low lying coastal areas of Australia (particularly Qld) have been affected.

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I'm not against action to stop our polluting ways but I am unsure if you can say that the extinction of a rat on a tiny island on is the first due to human induced climate change.

That disregards all the mammal species that we have killed off through our destructive behaviour removing vegetation and animals to create a climate that is more fruitful to our own needs.

The rat may also have been killed off by other natural means. Looking at pictures and maps of the island, it is tiny with very little shelter. I find it amazing that the rats were able to sustain themselves in such numbers that had been recorded for such a long time. A large storm or series of large storms most likely be catastrophic for whatever lived there. There is also the chance that they ate themselves out of existence, much like you are arguing over us humans doing.
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pv4 wrote:
Toughlove wrote:
Until there's a consensus on population control everything else is just pissing in the wind.


A question for those who have a decent enough understanding of population control in relation to climate change, etc:

Say the average Australian - what is the very roughly agreed upon amount of children they should have, to do their part? 0, 1, 2? How can the average OECD countryman do their part, within reason?

Like, 2.3 children is the average right (why do I know this figure? It must be relevant?)? Is having under that deemed doing your own little part?


My personal point of view is that the "use" of the individual is more important than the actual number per se. I found this the biggest flaw with all the guest lecturers we use to get at our university. Most students lapped up what they said, but to me it always came down to "quality over quantity".

Haven't looked at the matter for some time, but remember there use to be tables and stats worked out for the amount of land required per person in each country (this was based on their "energy usages"). The USA and Australia were near the top of nearly all the different lists (in other words we live one of the most unsustainable lifestyles in the world).

To live a sustainable (well more so) doesn't involve mass changes to our lifestyles, just lots of little ones ...
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chillbilly wrote:
I'm not against action to stop our polluting ways but I am unsure if you can say that the extinction of a rat on a tiny island on is the first due to human induced climate change.

That disregards all the mammal species that we have killed off through our destructive behaviour removing vegetation and animals to create a climate that is more fruitful to our own needs.

The rat may also have been killed off by other natural means. Looking at pictures and maps of the island, it is tiny with very little shelter. I find it amazing that the rats were able to sustain themselves in such numbers that had been recorded for such a long time. A large storm or series of large storms most likely be catastrophic for whatever lived there. There is also the chance that they ate themselves out of existence, much like you are arguing over us humans doing.


That the mammals were able to sustain themselves on such an isolated island, suggests that the long-term tides and storm surges for at least the last 100 years were not detrimental to the animals survival. However a change in both of these is believed to be the primary reason for their extinction, and the primary reason (suggested) for this change is global warming. Of course there are other possibilities for their extinction, however there would be evidence of such things as over eating, pollution, clearing of native vegetation, over hunting etc. Without studying the site myself and not having a full read of their study I'd assume that they researched such matters.
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I'm no expert but I do know this.

Developed countries have either neutral or declining populations.

Given that fact it seems to me the answer is to develop third world and emerging economies to 'our' standard of living in order to slow or reverse their population growth.

Yes that is unsustainable because there aren't enough resources on earth to live like we do so at the same time some pretty big shifts will need to happen in 'our' economies. A move to renewables, more sustainability etc etc.


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Any other useless creatures that we can hit with a bit of CO2 ?



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Poor lil dude.

All Melomys are pretty cute.

Had one pop out of my engine bay while driving down the mountain the other day.

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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