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Am I the only one who finds it annoying how American elections are always divided up by race, religion, sex etc, who has the white vote, the black vote, the woman vote, the christian vote, the hispanic vote etc.
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lukerobinho
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adrtho wrote:mcjules wrote:433 wrote:luckee wrote:scott21 wrote:433 wrote:Confirming the long held suspicion that the Dems are flooding America with Hispanics to win elections. Disgusting.  Conspiracy theory would say it is happening in Getmany and Sweden too. Just with people from different places. Edited by scott21: 24/7/2016 04:55:16 PM Email confirms that political parties are cynical and target specific groups. What else is there? 'flooding America to win elections' ....?? do other leaks show something systematic or is it just conspiracy? Tim Kaine talked in Spanish about an amnesty plan. So no leaks then. :lol: this shit going to back fire in GOP, this leak come from Russia state, and the FBI will come out and say it soon Ah yes when in doubt, blame the russians!1!1!, i mean seriously. Wikileaks is monitoring this accusation made by the democrats and may take legal action
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lukerobinho
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Iridium1010 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it annoying how American elections are always divided up by race, religion, sex etc, who has the white vote, the black vote, the woman vote, the christian vote, the hispanic vote etc. It's the reality of an increasingly divided society.
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adrtho
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lukerobinho wrote:adrtho wrote:mcjules wrote:433 wrote:luckee wrote:scott21 wrote:433 wrote:Confirming the long held suspicion that the Dems are flooding America with Hispanics to win elections. Disgusting. Conspiracy theory would say it is happening in Getmany and Sweden too. Just with people from different places. Edited by scott21: 24/7/2016 04:55:16 PM Email confirms that political parties are cynical and target specific groups. What else is there? 'flooding America to win elections' ....?? do other leaks show something systematic or is it just conspiracy? Tim Kaine talked in Spanish about an amnesty plan. So no leaks then. :lol: this shit going to back fire in GOP, this leak come from Russia state, and the FBI will come out and say it soon Ah yes when in doubt, blame the russians!1!1!, i mean seriously. Wikileaks is monitoring this accusation made by the democrats and may take legal action it true... Russia came out and said they will do it about a month ago....everyone knows this was hack by Russia
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Sanders votes
57% said they will vote for Clinton
5% said they will vote for Trump
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Blame the Russians :lol: :lol:
Desperate as fuck
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AzzaMarch
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433 wrote:Remains to be seen as people trawl through the 20k emails. You've already got one leak that proves what people have been saying for years: the Dem party wants mass amnesty and immigration because they overwhelmingly vote Dem.
Edited by 433: 24/7/2016 10:20:35 PM Is that similar to how the Republicans have brought in Voter ID laws across the south to make it harder for the poor and largely black population to vote? This despite there being little to no evidence of people trying to vote multiple times.
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Sanders says
Trump most not become US president
Sanders will support Clinton in stooping one of the worst GOP nominees on modem history
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433 wrote:Blame the Russians :lol: :lol:
Desperate as fuck so who hack it ? who leak it? is it un True? the DNC said they got hack, the FBI came in and said the hack came from Russian security,,,,and now we see the hack emails up on Wikileaks Edited by adrtho: 25/7/2016 11:17:53 AM
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AzzaMarch
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Iridium1010 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it annoying how American elections are always divided up by race, religion, sex etc, who has the white vote, the black vote, the woman vote, the christian vote, the hispanic vote etc. It's just how the voting patterns work over there - americans tend to vote by demography. And also, they have generally low voter turnout than other western countries - so it becomes more relevant. Americans don't have a "class identity" like in countries like the UK. It's nothing new, its always been this way in the US. It doesn't come up in Australia, partly because we have compulsory voting, so the voting electorate is representative of the country as a whole. You don't have to "get out the vote" of your potential supporters.
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AzzaMarch wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it annoying how American elections are always divided up by race, religion, sex etc, who has the white vote, the black vote, the woman vote, the christian vote, the hispanic vote etc. It's just how the voting patterns work over there - americans tend to vote by demography. And also, they have generally low voter turnout than other western countries - so it becomes more relevant. Americans don't have a "class identity" like in countries like the UK. It's nothing new, its always been this way in the US. It doesn't come up in Australia, partly because we have compulsory voting, so the voting electorate is representative of the country as a whole. You don't have to "get out the vote" of your potential supporters. But we also don't have a large black population, a large mexican demographic etc.
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adrtho wrote:433 wrote:Blame the Russians :lol: :lol:
Desperate as fuck so who hack it ? who leak it? is it un True? the DNC said they got hack, the FBI came in and said the hack came from Russian security,,,,and now we see the hack emails up on Wikileaks Edited by adrtho: 25/7/2016 11:17:53 AM Its all very convenient
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lukerobinho wrote:AzzaMarch wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it annoying how American elections are always divided up by race, religion, sex etc, who has the white vote, the black vote, the woman vote, the christian vote, the hispanic vote etc. It's just how the voting patterns work over there - americans tend to vote by demography. And also, they have generally low voter turnout than other western countries - so it becomes more relevant. Americans don't have a "class identity" like in countries like the UK. It's nothing new, its always been this way in the US. It doesn't come up in Australia, partly because we have compulsory voting, so the voting electorate is representative of the country as a whole. You don't have to "get out the vote" of your potential supporters. But we also don't have a large black population, a large mexican demographic etc. There's quite a few examples of the Liberal party targeting the chinese community and scaring them with stuff about safe schools and refugees. Chisholm in Victoria (which contains suburbs like Box Hill) was one of the few seats that actually swung their way this election.
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lukerobinho wrote:adrtho wrote:433 wrote:Blame the Russians :lol: :lol:
Desperate as fuck so who hack it ? who leak it? is it un True? the DNC said they got hack, the FBI came in and said the hack came from Russian security,,,,and now we see the hack emails up on Wikileaks Edited by adrtho: 25/7/2016 11:17:53 AM Its all very convenient whats convenient, is how they get leak now, almost like working with Trump the DNC got hack months ago , the FBI said it was Russia months ago...Russia now leak Wikileaks Edited by adrtho: 25/7/2016 12:15:48 PM
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adrtho wrote:433 wrote:Blame the Russians :lol: :lol:
Desperate as fuck so who hack it ? who leak it? is it un True? the DNC said they got hack, the FBI came in and said the hack came from Russian security,,,,and now we see the hack emails up on Wikileaks Edited by adrtho: 25/7/2016 11:17:53 AM And that changes the content of the emails how? -PB
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:mcjules wrote:lukerobinho wrote:AzzaMarch wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it annoying how American elections are always divided up by race, religion, sex etc, who has the white vote, the black vote, the woman vote, the christian vote, the hispanic vote etc. It's just how the voting patterns work over there - americans tend to vote by demography. And also, they have generally low voter turnout than other western countries - so it becomes more relevant. Americans don't have a "class identity" like in countries like the UK. It's nothing new, its always been this way in the US. It doesn't come up in Australia, partly because we have compulsory voting, so the voting electorate is representative of the country as a whole. You don't have to "get out the vote" of your potential supporters. But we also don't have a large black population, a large mexican demographic etc. There's quite a few examples of the Liberal party targeting the chinese community and scaring them with stuff about safe schools and refugees. Chisholm in Victoria (which contains suburbs like Box Hill) was one of the few seats that actually swung their way this election.  Yes and the Greens how to vote card in my electorate was written in multiple languages. Is there actually anything wrong with that? Spreading lies is another thing though, it's quite humorous how much the LNP were whinging about it when they did it themselves to win a seat or two.
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Viet Guy wrote:AzzaMarch wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it annoying how American elections are always divided up by race, religion, sex etc, who has the white vote, the black vote, the woman vote, the christian vote, the hispanic vote etc. It's just how the voting patterns work over there - americans tend to vote by demography. And also, they have generally low voter turnout than other western countries - so it becomes more relevant. Americans don't have a "class identity" like in countries like the UK. It's nothing new, its always been this way in the US. It doesn't come up in Australia, partly because we have compulsory voting, so the voting electorate is representative of the country as a whole. You don't have to "get out the vote" of your potential supporters. My uncles and cousin live in USA, Sacramento. Which town you live in? :lol: this clown again.
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paulbagzFC wrote:adrtho wrote:433 wrote:Blame the Russians :lol: :lol:
Desperate as fuck so who hack it ? who leak it? is it un True? the DNC said they got hack, the FBI came in and said the hack came from Russian security,,,,and now we see the hack emails up on Wikileaks Edited by adrtho: 25/7/2016 11:17:53 AM And that changes the content of the emails how? -PB no... but the content of the emails will just get some people fired,,,,,Sanders will come out strong for Clinton now, Because he understand how bad Trump is for America
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If Sanders had any balls he'd retract his endorsement given his treatment at the hands of the clearly biased DNC.
So much for his "revolution" :lol:
Ardtho, why do you have such a hate boner for Russia? I'd rather us not try to instigate WW3.
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AzzaMarch wrote:433 wrote:Remains to be seen as people trawl through the 20k emails. You've already got one leak that proves what people have been saying for years: the Dem party wants mass amnesty and immigration because they overwhelmingly vote Dem.
Edited by 433: 24/7/2016 10:20:35 PM Is that similar to how the Republicans have brought in Voter ID laws across the south to make it harder for the poor and largely black population to vote? This despite there being little to no evidence of people trying to vote multiple times. Dunno what relevance this has but ok sure.
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mcjules wrote:11.mvfc.11 wrote:mcjules wrote:lukerobinho wrote:AzzaMarch wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it annoying how American elections are always divided up by race, religion, sex etc, who has the white vote, the black vote, the woman vote, the christian vote, the hispanic vote etc. It's just how the voting patterns work over there - americans tend to vote by demography. And also, they have generally low voter turnout than other western countries - so it becomes more relevant. Americans don't have a "class identity" like in countries like the UK. It's nothing new, its always been this way in the US. It doesn't come up in Australia, partly because we have compulsory voting, so the voting electorate is representative of the country as a whole. You don't have to "get out the vote" of your potential supporters. But we also don't have a large black population, a large mexican demographic etc. There's quite a few examples of the Liberal party targeting the chinese community and scaring them with stuff about safe schools and refugees. Chisholm in Victoria (which contains suburbs like Box Hill) was one of the few seats that actually swung their way this election. Yes and the Greens how to vote card in my electorate was written in multiple languages. Is there actually anything wrong with that? Spreading lies is another thing though, it's quite humorous how much the LNP were whinging about it when they did it themselves to win a seat or two. What did the lnp lie about ? there's a serious gang problem in melbourne right now
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mcjules wrote:Spreading lies is another thing though, it's quite humorous how much the LNP were whinging about it when they did it themselves to win a seat or two. Of course the libs never told an outright lie intentionally to deceive voters, trap them in their fear and ignorance and make it the focal point of their election pitch. This was groundbreaking stuff from a desperate opposition who sold their souls to the devil, and they still lost! :lol: The mediscare lie is akin to telling voters Labor wants to privatise borders to people smugglers or sell Tasmania to the Chinese. Now no lie will ever be off limits as they will be able to point to mediscare as the benchmark in deceitful grubby scare campaigns.
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lukerobinho wrote:mcjules wrote:11.mvfc.11 wrote:mcjules wrote:lukerobinho wrote:AzzaMarch wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Am I the only one who finds it annoying how American elections are always divided up by race, religion, sex etc, who has the white vote, the black vote, the woman vote, the christian vote, the hispanic vote etc. It's just how the voting patterns work over there - americans tend to vote by demography. And also, they have generally low voter turnout than other western countries - so it becomes more relevant. Americans don't have a "class identity" like in countries like the UK. It's nothing new, its always been this way in the US. It doesn't come up in Australia, partly because we have compulsory voting, so the voting electorate is representative of the country as a whole. You don't have to "get out the vote" of your potential supporters. But we also don't have a large black population, a large mexican demographic etc. There's quite a few examples of the Liberal party targeting the chinese community and scaring them with stuff about safe schools and refugees. Chisholm in Victoria (which contains suburbs like Box Hill) was one of the few seats that actually swung their way this election. Yes and the Greens how to vote card in my electorate was written in multiple languages. Is there actually anything wrong with that? Spreading lies is another thing though, it's quite humorous how much the LNP were whinging about it when they did it themselves to win a seat or two. What did the lnp lie about ? there's a serious gang problem in melbourne right now This is the US politics thread so we're getting off track but here's a benign article that talks about their use of chinese social media in Chisholm. http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/harnessing-chinese-social-media-to-win-chisholm-20160708-gq1rdq.htmlHere's one that describes some of the lies Having an intermediate level of Chinese proficiency, I actually saw a lot of this shit first hand on WeChat. Was pretty disgraceful.
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433 wrote:If Sanders had any balls he'd retract his endorsement given his treatment at the hands of the clearly biased DNC.
So much for his "revolution" :lol:
Ardtho, why do you have such a hate boner for Russia? I'd rather us not try to instigate WW3. Sanders will come out strong for Clinton now,,,as Sanders said about Tim Kaine, "even in Tim Kaine worst day in his worst year, Kaine is still 100x better then Trump by not not instigate WW3, we will get WW3....Putin in 2012, started a new cold war with USA (Anglo-counties) , it was only after the Russian shoot down MH17, did the west wake up
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adrtho
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433 wrote:If Sanders had any balls he'd retract his endorsement given his treatment at the hands of the clearly biased DNC.
So much for his "revolution" :lol:
Ardtho, why do you have such a hate boner for Russia? I'd rather us not try to instigate WW3. the idea that DNC should not be biased is laughterfull...the DNC job is to pick a presidential candidate to win, it job is not to fair or even democratic
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adrtho making predictions :lol: -PB
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adrtho wrote:433 wrote:If Sanders had any balls he'd retract his endorsement given his treatment at the hands of the clearly biased DNC.
So much for his "revolution" :lol:
Ardtho, why do you have such a hate boner for Russia? I'd rather us not try to instigate WW3. the idea that DNC should not be biased is laughterfull...the DNC job is to pick a presidential candidate to win, it job is not to fair or even democratic It's in their name you fucking dropkick.
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AzzaMarch
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433 wrote:AzzaMarch wrote:433 wrote:Remains to be seen as people trawl through the 20k emails. You've already got one leak that proves what people have been saying for years: the Dem party wants mass amnesty and immigration because they overwhelmingly vote Dem.
Edited by 433: 24/7/2016 10:20:35 PM Is that similar to how the Republicans have brought in Voter ID laws across the south to make it harder for the poor and largely black population to vote? This despite there being little to no evidence of people trying to vote multiple times. Dunno what relevance this has but ok sure. You are accusing the Democrats of wanting to bring in a "mass amnesty and immigration because they overwhelmingly vote Dem". I am saying the Republicans bring in Voter ID laws to minimise the votes of the black and poor, because they vote overwhelmingly democrat. My point being that you can read these types of things in cynical ways if you want - both parties.
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salmonfc wrote:adrtho wrote:433 wrote:If Sanders had any balls he'd retract his endorsement given his treatment at the hands of the clearly biased DNC.
So much for his "revolution" :lol:
Ardtho, why do you have such a hate boner for Russia? I'd rather us not try to instigate WW3. the idea that DNC should not be biased is laughterfull...the DNC job is to pick a presidential candidate to win, it job is not to fair or even democratic It's in their name you fucking dropkick. Liberal Party One Nation Palmer United.... .....Workers' Party of Korea what's in a name?
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adrtho
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salmonfc wrote:adrtho wrote:433 wrote:If Sanders had any balls he'd retract his endorsement given his treatment at the hands of the clearly biased DNC.
So much for his "revolution" :lol:
Ardtho, why do you have such a hate boner for Russia? I'd rather us not try to instigate WW3. the idea that DNC should not be biased is laughterfull...the DNC job is to pick a presidential candidate to win, it job is not to fair or even democratic It's in their name you fucking dropkick. yeh, are you pink and fat Edited by adrtho: 25/7/2016 05:38:35 PM
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