Yeah they're salty but I don't really see a problem with that. There are circumstances that it's ok to be aggrieved by the situation. It's not worth debating that point really because people will have different points of view and will either think the protest is dumb or not. All I'm saying is, protesting isn't undemocratic and most of those people aren't trying to turn the US into a dictatorship. I feel certain media and the association with trade unions and student activism (oh the horror) has some how made protesting a bad thing. The reality is it's quite a pure form of democratic free speech and as long as it's done peacefully, it should be tolerated or even encouraged.

As for systems, it's chalk and cheese. Our system is way better and with the STV system we have, we can vote for whoever we think is the best candidate without having our vote wasted. The problem is that there are enough supporters of "dumb and dumber" that they're still the major 2 parties. The balance of power is much more likely to change here than in the US.

The electoral college system is an anachronism that was put in place because 200 years ago, collating results over such a massive area was difficult. Railroads didn't even exist back then. When you're electing one person to represent the entire country, it makes sense to do it purely on the popular vote.

They're not protesting an election result, they're protesting the "policies" and values of the president-elect. Democracy doesn't end with an election and the right to process is crucial to a healthy democracy.

The whole "Trump is not my president" bullshit does make them look salty. There was very little global coverage of the electoral college system until Trump won, then it was a huge deal when he did.

No system is perfect. We're forced to vote for dumb or dumber in Oz.

So Trump has so far:- renegged on locking up Hilary- renegged on building a continuous wall- appointed an openly anti-Semitic nutcase to his staff- settled a $34M Trump Uni fraud case (renegging on going to court)Any others?Only those dumb as dogshit took him at his word, "cause he's a straight talker!"

Some might be, others certainly aren't.

Acceptance of the democratic process is crucial to a healthy democracy. The primary narrative I've seen from these protesters is that the electoral college system is flawed and therefore Trump doesn't deserve to win.  The system may be flawed and probably needs updating in the future, but it functioned the way that it was supposed to and delivered a fair result.   

100% agree with the trade unions and students regarding protesting. A lot of it these days looks like petulance rather than valid concerns. An issue with the protests though is what do they hope to achieve? Either they say their piece and fade away (more likely to happen) or they force a change because the system didn't support the candidate they wanted to win (not going to happen). If there is a serious issue with this system for Americans (we both know it's ridiculous), they need to continue to protest towards the next election and not make it about Trump. At present it's too easy to spin their valid concerns into salty behaviour because Trump's a sexist etc. and it gains no traction.

As for our system, we're forced to vote for someone whether there is a candidate that reflects our political beliefs or not, we've got to pick one or donkey vote. Then theres that preferences nonsense that I don't fully understand where votes for minor parties translate into votes for one of the bigger parties in the end right?

Interesting, doesn't seem like a particularly strong case (or one that will be pursued) but when margins are so fine these things can come into play.

The Hypocrisy from these people, sooking to high heaven when Trump was undecided if he would contest if he lost and now here they are wanting to do the same thing, need to get a life and move on. 

I think the "issue" is that Hilary won the popular vote ... by 1.5 million people. Which has led to people being disillusioned with the voting system in the US.

I think the other "issue" people had with Trump's view prior to the election was that he was happy to accept the voting system if he won, but not if he lost. It is probably more hypocritical of the Republicans (or Trump supporters) to accept the election results, simply because they won.

Clinton never questioned the voting system, and I don't see her challenging it ... she didn't come close enough in key states for it to affect the final outcome.

Which is silly because if it was a huge issue, the election should never have gone ahead and the issue should have been resolved before they started. The people complaining were probably those who lived and breathed the polls which all said Hillary would walk in.

Whilst the electoral college was an issue, it didn't get major headlines. It only became a big deal because of the nature of Trump's win.

It's like removing handball free kicks from a game of football and then bitching because you lost from a handball goal.

It seems the media has not learnt one thing, they continually slam Trump when ever they can for really pathetic things. If they keep going at this rate Trump will get two terms :laugh:, keep it up by all means. 

I must admit the whole election thing is getting fairly old quickly ... but the main thing they see to "slam" Trump about at the moment is his change in attitudes now that he has won (politicians in Australia would similarly be slammed for changing their tune so quickly).

That's the thing though, every president or prime minister will not go through will all the stuff that got them elected. I'm talking about stuff like saying Trump is a racist for only picking white people in his cabinet, he is not even finished yet but they are trying to turn it into a race thing. What happened to picking the person who is right for the Job? It's like people are so dumb they would rather a someone in charge just for the sake of it, but only if they are of a different colour. 

How have I only just found this

What's the bet if they did do a recount and it still went Trumps way they would still be moaning. 

The "moaning" hasn't been about the election being rigged so why would they stop?

Why would they keep going? Why not make a genuine difference in society instead of whinging like spoilt children?

Too much loaded language in this thread. I get it, people here don't think protests do anything. I think that's incredibly sad and I partially blame the dominance of the conservatives through the 90s when many of the people of this forum were growing up for this opinion (it's also the reason why the republic doesn't have the same traction it once had but that's for another thread). 

Will genuine electoral reform happen? With all the decks stacked in the Republican's favour who are more likely to benefit from the current situation, I very much doubt it. Still people have a right to voice their concerns in any peaceful way they want to.

No one said they don't do anything. Stop trying to read into things that aren't there. If you protest every week how much will the public pay attention to yet another protest.