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Not really news as even some female surfers earn more than the highest earning afl players, but interesting to see what some of our players are on. Some of it is crazy money.
AFL trumped by soccer in football code pay stakes
SOCCER has thundered past Australian Rules as the nation’s most lucrative football code.
A Herald Sun investigation has revealed 23 Australian soccer players based in the A-league or overseas earn more than the AFL’s highest-paid stars Lance Franklin, Gary Ablett and Tom Boyd.
It comes as AFL players are locked in a bitter pay dispute with league chiefs over a demand for a fixed percentage of the game’s rising revenues.
The AFL’s $1 million men are Franklin, Ablett, Boyd, Nic Naitanui and Scott Pendlebury.
Superstars Patrick Dangerfield ($800,000), Nat Fyfe ($900,000), Joel Selwood ($850,000) and Alex Rance ($800,000) all fell short of the $1 million mark in 2016.
But Australian soccer’s top dogs earns five times more cash — China-based defenders Trent Sainsbury, 24, and Matthew Spiranovic, 28, both earn more than $5 million a year.
Sydney superstar is earning $1 million-plus a year, but that is nothing compared to what some Australian soccer players are collecting. Picture: David Caird
Melbourne City’s Tim Cahill will collect $4.7 million in his debut A-League season, former City star Aaron Mooy pockets $3.5 million a year on loan to Huddersfield Town in the English second tier from Manchester City.
Other big round-ball earners were Socceroos captain Mile Jedinak ($3.2 million, Aston Villa), Matthew Spiranovic ($2.5 million, Hangzhou Greentown) and Mat Ryan ($2.4 million, Valencia).
Former Manchester United and Chelsea star Mark Bosnich, who was earning almost $8 million a year in his prime, said soccer would always dominate.
“No disrespect to AFL, but they’re catering to a small domestic market, football is part of a world market,” he said.
“But AFL players should be getting a bigger slice of the pie. They get less than their soccer counterparts and there needs to be a realisation that people come to watch the players and not the guys upstairs.”
AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan made $1.7 million in 2015, while A-League boss David Gallop was on $1.4m.
While the AFL has nine players on $800,000 to $950,000, another 12 to 15 Australian soccer players earn between $800,000 and $1.1 million.
The AFL has 850 players at an average of $300,000.
More than 160 Australian players are now playing in Europe and Asia, while there are 260 on A-League lists.
The A-League average wage is $180,000, a $145,000 rise from the last season of the NSL 12 years ago.
The advent of the A-League, the emergence of the lucrative Chinese market and the much-improved Socceroos pay conditions — players average $100,000 a year representing Australia and as much as $200,000 in a World Cup year — has seen soccer wages surge past AFL.
A-League stars will also strike an improved pay deal, with the FFA renegotiating the $40m-a-year TV contract, which expires in May.
The most common pay band for AFL stars is $100,000 to $200,000, which included 188 players in 2015, while 153 earned between $200,000 to $300,000.
Nobody earned more than $1m a year when the contract was averaged out.
The most recent AFL figures showed two players earned $1.2m in 2015, with some contracts being heavily back-ended or front-ended.
TOP AFL EARNERS 2016
Lance Franklin $1 million+
Tom Boyd $1 million+
Gary Ablett $1 million
Nic Naitanui $1 million
Scott Pendlebury $1 million
Jeremy Cameron $950,000
Nat Fyfe $900,000
Joel Selwood $850,000
Kurt Tippett $850,000
Patrick Dangerfield $800,000
Alex Rance $800,000
Dayne Beams $800,000
Jobe Watson $800,000
Travis Cloke $800,000
TOP AUSSIE SOCCER EARNERS 2016
1. Trent Sainsbury — Jiangsu (China) $5.2m
2. Matthew Spiranovic — Huangzhou (China) $5m
3. Tim Cahill — Melbourne City (Australia) $4.6m
4. Aaron Mooy — Huddersfield Town, loan (England) $3.5m
5. Mile Jedinak — Aston Villa (England) $3.2m
6. Mat Ryan — Valencia (Spain) $2.4m
7. Mitch Langerak — Stuttgart (Germany) $2.3m
8. Robbie Kruse — Bayer Leverkusen (Germany) $2.2m
9. Mark Milligan — Baniyas (UAE) $2.1m
10. Tom Rogic — Celtic (Scotland) $2m
11. Ryan McGowan — Henan Jianye (China) $2m
12. Mathew Leckie — Ingolstadt (Germany) $2m
13. Nathan Burns — FC Tokyo (Japan) $2m
14. Ersan Gulum — Hebei China Fortune (China) $1.9m
15. Apostolos Giannou — Guangzhou R&F (China) $1.9m
16. Massimo Luongo — QPR (England) $1.7m
17. Brad Smith — Bournemouth (England) $1.6m
18. Bailey Wright — Preston North End (England) $1.4m
19. Dario Vidosic — Liaoning Huongyun (China) $1.3m
20. Adam Federici — Bournemouth (England) $1.25m
21. Jason Davidson — Groningen, loan (Netherlands) $1.25m
22. Curtis Good — Newcastle United (England) $1.25m
23. Michael Thwaite — Liaoning Whowin (China) $1.25m
24. Aziz Behich — Bursaspor (Turkey) $1.2m
25. Nikolai Topor-Stanley — Hatta Club (UAE) $1.2m
* Salaries are based on official AFL and A-League figures and industry estimates
^ Some deals include accommodation/relocation and bonuses
# Includes average $100,000 Socceroos wages
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Its hard to fathom how some of them can command such large salaries. Curtis Good has hardly played in the four years since he left yet gets paid more than just about anyone in the A-league, including most marquees.
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+xIts hard to fathom how some of them can command such large salaries. Curtis Good has hardly played in the four years since he left yet gets paid more than just about anyone in the A-league, including most marquees. Someone like Good will just be a part of the wider picture that is Premier League salaries in general - at $1.2 million/year he'd definitely be at the low end of the spectrum at a club like Newcastle. It's almost chump change to those sort of clubs. Not to be superficial, but I don't see why the FFA and football in this country don't push the salary factor a bit more tbh - even a few years in China would sit up a player for life as opposed to what an elite player can earn over a career in the AFL.
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+x+xIts hard to fathom how some of them can command such large salaries. Curtis Good has hardly played in the four years since he left yet gets paid more than just about anyone in the A-league, including most marquees. Someone like Good will just be a part of the wider picture that is Premier League salaries in general - at $1.2 million/year he'd definitely be at the low end of the spectrum at a club like Newcastle. It's almost chump change to those sort of clubs. Not to be superficial, but I don't see why the FFA and football in this country don't push the salary factor a bit more tbh - even a few years in China would sit up a player for life as opposed to what an elite player can earn over a career in the AFL. I know but it still doesn't make it any easier for me to imagine the amount of money being thrown around relative to my perspective. I think what most of the young A-league players is a lot and that gets blown out of the water by many leagues around the world.
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Hard to believe Leckie is so far down the list but the move to Asia has paid off for our defenders. Rogic will surge to the top on his next deal.
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+xHard to believe Leckie is so far down the list I find it hard to believe he gets 2 million to leave the ball behind or blaze over the bar.
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Cant believe how much players like Vidosic & NTS are on.
Good luck to them if they can get it though!
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Davidson, Behich and NTS getting paid more than the highest earning AFL player lol
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+xDavidson, Behich and NTS getting paid more than the highest earning AFL player lol lol that is amusing as hell
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+xDavidson, Behich and NTS getting paid more than the highest earning AFL player lol LOL. Just spat my coffee over my monitor.
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+x+xDavidson, Behich and NTS getting paid more than the highest earning AFL player lol LOL. Just spat my coffee over my monitor. bahahahaha
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+x+xDavidson, Behich and NTS getting paid more than the highest earning AFL player lol LOL. Just spat my coffee over my monitor. :laugh:
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Goes to show how much the fringe sports like League and Aussie Rules are up against it. The gulf will only get far bigger with China especially going hard with their $.
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+xGoes to show how much the fringe sports like League and Aussie Rules are up against it. The gulf will only get far bigger with China especially going hard with their $. Sadly they're so far from reality that blokes like Koch think that a game of AFL in a Chinese city will woo those millions of people over because Aussie-rules is the greatest game in the world. Also to add to their lack of reality they're saying stupid things about Port Adelaide even though reality shows that Adelaide United have played games for ACL points against Chinese teams and they've also had Chinese sponsors while Kochie was still dreaming about a game of AFL with his team being represented in China.
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+x+xGoes to show how much the fringe sports like League and Aussie Rules are up against it. The gulf will only get far bigger with China especially going hard with their $. Also to add to their lack of reality they're saying stupid things about Port Adelaide even though reality shows that Adelaide United have played games for ACL points and they've also had Chinese sponsors while Kochie was still dreaming about a game of AFL with his team being represented in China. A few ACL games viewing audiences involving Aus sides have made AFL finals ratings look laughable.
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That is some beautiful bogan butthurt. I wonder how many of them are multis for Mr VFL?
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The list also shows how hard it is to keep our best in Australia.
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Why would we want to keep our best in Australia? Every player that goes overseas opens up another spot for a player to sign a professional contract.
Lol at NTS earning so much more than any VFL player but even average defenders like him and Leijer are worth more than them. It shows the value of the +1 rule for Australian defenders. South American and European attackers fill the 3 visa spots and that makes an Australian defender attractive for the Asian spot. SFC will probably lose either Ryall or Jurman to China.
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Wow. The VFL fans are really throwing their toys out the pram at this one: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-trumped-by-soccer-in-football-code-pay-stakes/news-story/ba70c192378c425c1b2a412d3af6cbf9Many of them find it hard to fathom that the pinnacle of football for Aus players is not the local competition.
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Paywall :( Perhaps post a selection of some of the best ones? lol
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+xPaywall :( Perhaps post a selection of some of the best ones? lol If you put link or headline into google, then click on article once it comes up in search results you usually get around it
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+x+xPaywall :( Perhaps post a selection of some of the best ones? lol If you put link or headline into google, then click on article once it comes up in search results you usually get around it Genius!
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bonafide One Nation voters if they're fair dinkum in their sentiments; shit banter if not. But it's obv they're afraid. They needn't be - when Collingwood's future HAL team is playing in the Club World Cup against Real Madrid, they'll be wondering WTF they were ever resistant to...
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Nice to know NTS and Dario is on such good coin...
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WOW, there are people like this still around. What a bunch of insecure parochial losers.
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+xWOW, there are people like this still around.What a bunch of insecure parochial losers. Who do you think voted Pauline back into the Senate?? I'm a proud Melburnian but these AFL zealot bogans are little(if @ all) better than ISIS, imo.
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Re Pauline Hanson. Bogan afl states had the lowest one nation votes
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+xRe Pauline Hanson. Bogan afl states had the lowest one nation votes Funny, I always thought WA was an AFL state.
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I await the anti football article which will come in the next week or puff piece on how good afl is in the Herald Sun.
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Interesting reading but perception is everything. Cannot wait for the day that the Aus media hypes the shit out of the A-league the way it does the other codes.
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I'd say given the build of AFL players they should be more worried about the money that Aussie basketball players get.
Andrew Bogut $15M
Matthew Delladova $12.6M
Aron Baynes $8.5M
Ben Simmons $7.7M
Dante Exum $5.2M
Patty Mills $4.25M
Thon Maker $3.4M
Joe Ingles $2.8M
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+xI'd say given the build of AFL players they should be more worried about the money that Aussie basketball players get. Andrew Bogut $15M Matthew Delladova $12.6M Aron Baynes $8.5M Ben Simmons $7.7M Dante Exum $5.2M Patty Mills $4.25M Thon Maker $3.4M Joe Ingles $2.8M That's impressive.
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+x+xI'd say given the build of AFL players they should be more worried about the money that Aussie basketball players get. Andrew Bogut $15M Matthew Delladova $12.6M Aron Baynes $8.5M Ben Simmons $7.7M Dante Exum $5.2M Patty Mills $4.25M Thon Maker $3.4M Joe Ingles $2.8M That's impressive. Worth noting Thon Maker and Ben Simmons are in their first year of the NBA
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+x+xI'd say given the build of AFL players they should be more worried about the money that Aussie basketball players get. Andrew Bogut $15M Matthew Delladova $12.6M Aron Baynes $8.5M Ben Simmons $7.7M Dante Exum $5.2M Patty Mills $4.25M Thon Maker $3.4M Joe Ingles $2.8M That's impressive. Absolutely, Australian Basketball is on the verge of it's golden generation with some genuinely exciting players and will fully deserve some 2006 WC level hype when the next Olympics come around. Considering the prevalence of Soccer and the amount of talented Ballers that South East Melbourne is pumping out, the AFL should be shitting itself over what the future holds for it's junior systems. More kids are going to be obsessed with Ben Simmons (just like many were for Harry Kewell) than Cyril Rioli.
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+x+x+xI'd say given the build of AFL players they should be more worried about the money that Aussie basketball players get. Andrew Bogut $15M Matthew Delladova $12.6M Aron Baynes $8.5M Ben Simmons $7.7M Dante Exum $5.2M Patty Mills $4.25M Thon Maker $3.4M Joe Ingles $2.8M That's impressive. Absolutely, Australian Basketball is on the verge of it's golden generation with some genuinely exciting players and will fully deserve some 2006 WC level hype when the next Olympics come around. Considering the prevalence of Soccer and the amount of talented Ballers that South East Melbourne is pumping out, the AFL should be shitting itself over what the future holds for it's junior systems. More kids are going to be obsessed with Ben Simmons (just like many were for Harry Kewell) than Cyril Rioli. That's the thing about the AFL though. It doesn't have to attract the most talented athlete possible. It doesn't need to compete with anything else so whoever the best players in the league are at any given time, they are the best in the world. Average players from 20 years earlier might have shit all over them but at the time it won't matter. It's all relative. The overall quality will look a little crapper but not by that much due to the nature of the chaotic sport in the first place.
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I love it when Victorians, Western Australians and South Australians discover that AFL isn't the centre of the universe, and nobody outside their insular, parochial states gives a shit. It really is quite beautiful.
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+xI love it when Victorians, Western Australians and South Australians discover that AFL isn't the centre of the universe, and nobody outside their insular, parochial states gives a shit. It really is quite beautiful. I reckon its even worse for qldrs and nrth nsw nrl bogans Has anyone got the nrl stats?
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+x+xI love it when Victorians, Western Australians and South Australians discover that AFL isn't the centre of the universe, and nobody outside their insular, parochial states gives a shit. It really is quite beautiful. I reckon its even worse for qldrs and nrth nsw nrl bogansHas anyone got the nrl stats? How so? League is legitimately played overseas and AFL isn't. Now whether the average NRL bogan knows/cares about who's on top of the PNG or French RL comps ATM is another matter, but you get the point.
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+x+x+xI love it when Victorians, Western Australians and South Australians discover that AFL isn't the centre of the universe, and nobody outside their insular, parochial states gives a shit. It really is quite beautiful. I reckon its even worse for qldrs and nrth nsw nrl bogansHas anyone got the nrl stats? How so? League is legitimately played overseas and AFL isn't. Now whether the average NRL bogan knows/cares about who's on top of the PNG or French RL comps ATM is another matter, but you get the point. Well Aussie-rules is played in a few countries but as far as I know they're not professional ( but then we could call the NPL players non-professional ). Having said that most of their teams would have trouble beating most of our high-school teams, and many just play in parks with rules made up by ex-pat Aussies.
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+x+x+x+xI love it when Victorians, Western Australians and South Australians discover that AFL isn't the centre of the universe, and nobody outside their insular, parochial states gives a shit. It really is quite beautiful. I reckon its even worse for qldrs and nrth nsw nrl bogansHas anyone got the nrl stats? How so? League is legitimately played overseas and AFL isn't. Now whether the average NRL bogan knows/cares about who's on top of the PNG or French RL comps ATM is another matter, but you get the point. Well Aussie-rules is played in a few countries but as far as I know they're not professional ( but then we could call the NPL players non-professional ). Having said that most of their teams would have trouble beating most of our high-school teams, and many just play in parks with rules made up by ex-pat Aussies. :hehe:
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This gap will only get bigger with the A-League's new TV deal.
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I still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go?
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+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? It's what their players now want to know too.
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+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This.
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+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat?
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+x+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat? Yep. They've almost pissed away $200 Million on the Suns and GWS alone since 2011.
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+x+x+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat? Yep. They've almost pissed away $200 Million on the Suns and GWS alone since 2011. the funny thing about GWS is their merch looks exactly like the uniforms that staff at sydney trains wear so sometimes i see a staff member of sydney trains and want to stab them and then realise they are not a gws fan because no one is
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+x+x+x+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat? Yep. They've almost pissed away $200 Million on the Suns and GWS alone since 2011. the funny thing about GWS is their merch looks exactly like the uniforms that staff at sydney trains wear so sometimes i see a staff member of sydney trains and want to stab them and then realise they are not a gws fan because no one is Bwahahaha
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+x+x+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat? Yep. They've almost pissed away $200 Million on the Suns and GWS alone since 2011. 
Is Wellington diverse? Dont know, however this is a club that has no historical or existing link to a specific migrant group - Rusty Einstein
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+x+x+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat? Yep. They've almost pissed away $200 Million on the Suns and GWS alone since 2011. It's could be even more combined if other reports are to be believed. Some have put it at 90 million for Suns and 140 million for gws.
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+x+x+x+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat? Yep. They've almost pissed away $200 Million on the Suns and GWS alone since 2011. It's could be even more combined if other reports are to be believed. Some have put it at 90 million for Suns and 140 million for gws. Whenever I'm on the Coast i am offered Suns tickets lol
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+x+x+x+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat? Yep. They've almost pissed away $200 Million on the Suns and GWS alone since 2011. It's could be even more combined if other reports are to be believed. Some have put it at 90 million for Suns and 140 million for gws. Fucken hell, wish we had that much to spend and they are just throwing it down the shitter.
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+x+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat? Remember the AFL filters a lot of money to grassroots so parents aren't having to take out a second mortgage to get their kids to play juniors.
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+x+x+x+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? This. To keep half the league afloat? Remember the AFL filters a lot of money to grassroots so parents aren't having to take out a second mortgage to get their kids to play juniors. All that money spent on the kids and yet most of them opt for sockah.
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+xI still can't get my head around that the AFL has a $400m per season TV deal yet their players are only given a small percentage of that. Where does all the money go? Sign-makers are making a killing. 
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The more these families that have kids in soccer realise that a decent football career can set their child up for life the better. A lot of the bogan families push their kids into AFL/NRL looking for money, a lot less risk in football giving the amount of places around the world that can provide a good salary. Of course the sport should still be all about fun, I'm only talking about a small group of parents.
I remember the Sydney Morning Herald melting down that Wilkshire was on 5 million a season in Russia at 13% tax. I think I read somewhere he is on around 750k in the Russian Second Division atm lol.
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That just shows how much money there really is in the CSL or Middle East. Our best players will be playing in crap leagues to the detriment of our national team. Sainsbury should have taken the Middlesbrough offer and Milligan should have been in a decent Europe league too.
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Have told this story here before - but one of the most entertaining conversations I've had since coming to Australia was with three Hawthorn players just after Shane Crawford's latest contract had been announced, around 2000-2001ish... His deal was apparently breath-taking and spectacular, and showed just how rich the AFL was - then I noted how much a friend of mine was getting - at the bottom end of the EPL. They had never heard of the club, or of the player, and couldn't believe that a squad member in the EPL could earn more than their very own superstar.
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+xHave told this story here before - but one of the most entertaining conversations I've had since coming to Australia was with three Hawthorn players just after Shane Crawford's latest contract had been announced, around 2000-2001ish... His deal was apparently breath-taking and spectacular, and showed just how rich the AFL was - then I noted how much a friend of mine was getting - at the bottom end of the EPL. They had never heard of the club, or of the player, and couldn't believe that a squad member in the EPL could earn more than their very own superstar. Your friend doesn't happen to be Steven Fletcher, does it?
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+x+xHave told this story here before - but one of the most entertaining conversations I've had since coming to Australia was with three Hawthorn players just after Shane Crawford's latest contract had been announced, around 2000-2001ish... His deal was apparently breath-taking and spectacular, and showed just how rich the AFL was - then I noted how much a friend of mine was getting - at the bottom end of the EPL. They had never heard of the club, or of the player, and couldn't believe that a squad member in the EPL could earn more than their very own superstar. Your friend doesn't happen to be Steven Fletcher, does it? You're about 12-13 years out. My mate had just signed a 10k/week deal, which was about $25k/week at exchange rates back then. I think Crawf had just signed a $1m/season deal... So the best in the AFL was earning less than a relative unknown, at an also-ran club in England. First question they asked was "how much would Kewell be earning?"
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+x+x+xHave told this story here before - but one of the most entertaining conversations I've had since coming to Australia was with three Hawthorn players just after Shane Crawford's latest contract had been announced, around 2000-2001ish... His deal was apparently breath-taking and spectacular, and showed just how rich the AFL was - then I noted how much a friend of mine was getting - at the bottom end of the EPL. They had never heard of the club, or of the player, and couldn't believe that a squad member in the EPL could earn more than their very own superstar. Your friend doesn't happen to be Steven Fletcher, does it? You're about 12-13 years out. My mate had just signed a 10k/week deal, which was about $25k/week at exchange rates back then. I think Crawf had just signed a $1m/season deal... So the best in the AFL was earning less than a relative unknown, at an also-ran club in England. First question they asked was "how much would Kewell be earning?" I refuse to believe people could be so naive and sheltered
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AFL might have had a chance in China 100years ago.
A sport where players try to bounce an egg shaped ball,when a round one is available and used in a similar sport for decades in Ireland would have fitted a country that used chopsticks when spoons and forks were available.
But China now love Football,so AFL is just a weird curiosity...bounce egg shaped ball..?...hmmm ..weird.
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+xAFL might have had a chance in China 100years ago.A sport where players try to bounce an egg shaped ball,when a round one is available and used in a similar sport for decades in Ireland would have fitted a country that used chopsticks when spoons and forks were available.But China now love Football,so AFL is just a weird curiosity...bounce egg shaped ball..?...hmmm ..weird. to be fair they are kinda like that in western sydney
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+x+xAFL might have had a chance in China 100years ago.A sport where players try to bounce an egg shaped ball,when a round one is available and used in a similar sport for decades in Ireland would have fitted a country that used chopsticks when spoons and forks were available.But China now love Football,so AFL is just a weird curiosity...bounce egg shaped ball..?...hmmm ..weird. to be fair they are kinda like that in western sydney It's like that for the whole of NSW and qld.
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+x+x+xAFL might have had a chance in China 100years ago.A sport where players try to bounce an egg shaped ball,when a round one is available and used in a similar sport for decades in Ireland would have fitted a country that used chopsticks when spoons and forks were available.But China now love Football,so AFL is just a weird curiosity...bounce egg shaped ball..?...hmmm ..weird. to be fair they are kinda like that in western sydney It's like that for the whole of NSW and qld. that is very true, i must admit i dont know too much about queensland but afl is foreign here
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It's funny coming from Sydney, to hear all this crap about AFL, it's just a niche sport in Sydney.
At least with the NRL, they know they are not the biggest.
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+xIt's funny coming from Sydney, to hear all this crap about AFL, it's just a niche sport in Sydney. At least with the NRL, they know they are not the biggest. You've got no idea how ridiculous it is. Compare the coverage the Swans get in Sydney. Then to put into perspective how much of a 'niche sport' it is. They are fast becoming one of the biggest clubs in the AFL. Due to A: Good Business(signing large sponsorships with companies like Qatar Airlines which in turn puts Victorian noses out of joint - how can a club from Sydney be more popular than heartland clubs?) and B: Doing whats best for them and not filing into line behind the VFL dictatorship run by the big VFL clubs. Both of these are quickly turning them into one of the most disliked clubs in the AFL circles. Would you pick up on that in Sydney unless you were a Swans fan?
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Same with the NRL
My question is, where does all there 1 billion dollar tv money go?
The FFA are working miracles with a measly 40m dollar deal at the moment, imagine if they had access to even 500m deal.
There must be some serious middle men in the ALF and NRL
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+xSame with the NRL My question is, where does all there 1 billion dollar tv money go? The FFA are working miracles with a measly 40m dollar deal at the moment, imagine if they had access to even 500m deal. There must be some serious middle men in the ALF and NRL Exactly, FFA has been running on an oily rag, 500M would totally transform the game in Australia.
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+xSame with the NRL My question is, where does all there 1 billion dollar tv money go? The FFA are working miracles with a measly 40m dollar deal at the moment, imagine if they had access to even 500m deal. There must be some serious middle men in the ALF and NRL + With the Players association holding the game borderline hostage at times behind the scenes. With Shitje lol
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+x+xSame with the NRL My question is, where does all there 1 billion dollar tv money go? The FFA are working miracles with a measly 40m dollar deal at the moment, imagine if they had access to even 500m deal. There must be some serious middle men in the ALF and NRL + With the Players association holding the game borderline hostage at times behind the scenes. With Shitje lol AFL/NRL would spend enormous amounts on marketing and paying for the game to be prominent in the media and probably a bit on making sure football is kept out of the media. I remember the local Blue Mountains paper was getting all this prominent local AFL stories with photos in the paper and there was maybe 1 or 2 clubs while the dozens of football clubs would be lucky to get the results published.
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What our current crop of socceroos are earning looks small compared to what the golden generation was earning ten years ago.
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+xWhat our current crop of socceroos are earning looks small compared to what the golden generation was earning ten years ago. I doubt it
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Topor makes the top 25 ay, I remember when he used to play in Canberra lol. Looking at that list, is there little wonder why the majority of our national team defenseline all moved to China.
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Looking at those numbers you can understand why Sainsbury made the move to China. What would he have been on at PEC Zwolle?? $200K to $500K?? (In 20014/15 season no PEC Zwolle player earned more than $300K).
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Watch this space when that small distraction called the WCup comes and goes and watch the CSL & their League 1 offers take all the best Aussies with the exception of a couple .
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Cannot believe Aaron Mooy is not on that list he should go to China and earn a fair share of the pie.
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+xCannot believe Aaron Mooy is not on that list he should go to China and earn a fair share of the pie. He's number 4 on the list
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I want the All Black's to earn some of those wages. I will have to get my mate at the NZRU to campaign the Aussies.
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It's not rocket science. Afl costs 18x 10 million salary cap with Wage costs totalling around 180 million
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+xNot really news as even some female surfers earn more than the highest earning afl players, but interesting to see what some of our players are on. Some of it is crazy money.
AFL trumped by soccer in football code pay stakes
SOCCER has thundered past Australian Rules as the nation’s most lucrative football code.
A Herald Sun investigation has revealed 23 Australian soccer players based in the A-league or overseas earn more than the AFL’s highest-paid stars Lance Franklin, Gary Ablett and Tom Boyd.
It comes as AFL players are locked in a bitter pay dispute with league chiefs over a demand for a fixed percentage of the game’s rising revenues.
The AFL’s $1 million men are Franklin, Ablett, Boyd, Nic Naitanui and Scott Pendlebury.
Superstars Patrick Dangerfield ($800,000), Nat Fyfe ($900,000), Joel Selwood ($850,000) and Alex Rance ($800,000) all fell short of the $1 million mark in 2016.
But Australian soccer’s top dogs earns five times more cash — China-based defenders Trent Sainsbury, 24, and Matthew Spiranovic, 28, both earn more than $5 million a year.
Sydney superstar is earning $1 million-plus a year, but that is nothing compared to what some Australian soccer players are collecting. Picture: David Caird
Melbourne City’s Tim Cahill will collect $4.7 million in his debut A-League season, former City star Aaron Mooy pockets $3.5 million a year on loan to Huddersfield Town in the English second tier from Manchester City.
Other big round-ball earners were Socceroos captain Mile Jedinak ($3.2 million, Aston Villa), Matthew Spiranovic ($2.5 million, Hangzhou Greentown) and Mat Ryan ($2.4 million, Valencia).
Former Manchester United and Chelsea star Mark Bosnich, who was earning almost $8 million a year in his prime, said soccer would always dominate.
“No disrespect to AFL, but they’re catering to a small domestic market, football is part of a world market,” he said.
“But AFL players should be getting a bigger slice of the pie. They get less than their soccer counterparts and there needs to be a realisation that people come to watch the players and not the guys upstairs.”
AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan made $1.7 million in 2015, while A-League boss David Gallop was on $1.4m.
While the AFL has nine players on $800,000 to $950,000, another 12 to 15 Australian soccer players earn between $800,000 and $1.1 million.
The AFL has 850 players at an average of $300,000.
More than 160 Australian players are now playing in Europe and Asia, while there are 260 on A-League lists.
The A-League average wage is $180,000, a $145,000 rise from the last season of the NSL 12 years ago.
The advent of the A-League, the emergence of the lucrative Chinese market and the much-improved Socceroos pay conditions — players average $100,000 a year representing Australia and as much as $200,000 in a World Cup year — has seen soccer wages surge past AFL.
A-League stars will also strike an improved pay deal, with the FFA renegotiating the $40m-a-year TV contract, which expires in May.
The most common pay band for AFL stars is $100,000 to $200,000, which included 188 players in 2015, while 153 earned between $200,000 to $300,000.
Nobody earned more than $1m a year when the contract was averaged out.
The most recent AFL figures showed two players earned $1.2m in 2015, with some contracts being heavily back-ended or front-ended.
TOP AFL EARNERS 2016
Lance Franklin $1 million+
Tom Boyd $1 million+
Gary Ablett $1 million
Nic Naitanui $1 million
Scott Pendlebury $1 million
Jeremy Cameron $950,000
Nat Fyfe $900,000
Joel Selwood $850,000
Kurt Tippett $850,000
Patrick Dangerfield $800,000
Alex Rance $800,000
Dayne Beams $800,000
Jobe Watson $800,000
Travis Cloke $800,000
TOP AUSSIE SOCCER EARNERS 2016
1. Trent Sainsbury — Jiangsu (China) $5.2m
2. Matthew Spiranovic — Huangzhou (China) $5m
3. Tim Cahill — Melbourne City (Australia) $4.6m
4. Aaron Mooy — Huddersfield Town, loan (England) $3.5m
5. Mile Jedinak — Aston Villa (England) $3.2m
6. Mat Ryan — Valencia (Spain) $2.4m
7. Mitch Langerak — Stuttgart (Germany) $2.3m
8. Robbie Kruse — Bayer Leverkusen (Germany) $2.2m
9. Mark Milligan — Baniyas (UAE) $2.1m
10. Tom Rogic — Celtic (Scotland) $2m
11. Ryan McGowan — Henan Jianye (China) $2m
12. Mathew Leckie — Ingolstadt (Germany) $2m
13. Nathan Burns — FC Tokyo (Japan) $2m
14. Ersan Gulum — Hebei China Fortune (China) $1.9m
15. Apostolos Giannou — Guangzhou R&F (China) $1.9m
16. Massimo Luongo — QPR (England) $1.7m
17. Brad Smith — Bournemouth (England) $1.6m
18. Bailey Wright — Preston North End (England) $1.4m
19. Dario Vidosic — Liaoning Huongyun (China) $1.3m
20. Adam Federici — Bournemouth (England) $1.25m
21. Jason Davidson — Groningen, loan (Netherlands) $1.25m
22. Curtis Good — Newcastle United (England) $1.25m
23. Michael Thwaite — Liaoning Whowin (China) $1.25m
24. Aziz Behich — Bursaspor (Turkey) $1.2m
25. Nikolai Topor-Stanley — Hatta Club (UAE) $1.2m
* Salaries are based on official AFL and A-League figures and industry estimates
^ Some deals include accommodation/relocation and bonuses
# Includes average $100,000 Socceroos wages
When one sees the salaries available in China, The Gulf, and the Championship, who can blame players leaving Oz to play in these leagues? Particularly late in players' careers. This article really puts things into perspective. It was in our local tabloid yesterday.
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Some of the HAL imports are probably better than some of our players playing abroad making bigger bucks than they were in the HAL.
I'm not sure how the HAL has managed to entice the quality imports to the HAL?
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+xSome of the HAL imports are probably better than some of our players playing abroad making bigger bucks than they were in the HAL. I'm not sure how the HAL has managed to entice the quality imports to the HAL? Benjamin? I reckon you'll find, particularly for the Spanish imports, that the economic situation in Spain has meant that A-League wages are now pretty good, and perhaps more importantly, they get paid on time.
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+x+x[quote]Some of the HAL imports are probably better than some of our players playing abroad making bigger bucks than they were in the HAL. I'm not sure how the HAL has managed to entice the quality imports to the HAL? Benjamin? I reckon you'll find, particularly for the Spanish imports, that the economic situation in Spain has meant that A-League wages are now pretty good, and perhaps more importantly, they get paid on time. I'm wondering why bigger Gulf and Chinese money isn't more attractive to them, even if they risk them not being as reliable?
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They go to China and the Gulf they are competing against Europeans and South Americans, whereas Australians moving to those leagues are competing for the +1 Asian spot.
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+xThey go to China and the Gulf they are competing against Europeans and South Americans, whereas Australians moving to those leagues are competing for the +1 Asian spot. That makes sense.
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+x+xThey go to China and the Gulf they are competing against Europeans and South Americans, whereas Australians moving to those leagues are competing for the +1 Asian spot. That makes sense. Remove the Asia + 1 and a lot of our Aussies making good $$$ In Asia will come back here. Look at the Chinese Super League for 2017 4 Australian Passports (Gulum counts as an Aussie). 
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+x+x+xThey go to China and the Gulf they are competing against Europeans and South Americans, whereas Australians moving to those leagues are competing for the +1 Asian spot. That makes sense. Remove the Asia + 1 and a lot of our Aussies making good $$$ In Asia will come back here. Look at the Chinese Super League for 2017 4 Australian Passports (Gulum counts as an Aussie). Asia need to abolish the +1 rule, It serves no purpose
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+xSome of the HAL imports are probably better than some of our players playing abroad making bigger bucks than they were in the HAL. I'm not sure how the HAL has managed to entice the quality imports to the HAL? Benjamin? Aussie players have a huge advantage in Asia due to the +1 rule - if Topor-Stanley and co were French they wouldn't get a fraction of what they are earning in Asia.
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Yes exactly. Our foreigners here are actually competing against the likes of Goulart, Conca, Ba, Gervinho Oscar, Ramires etc for spots and limited spots at that.
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don't discount the impact that Patty Mills has on aboriginal kids as well. Just when the AFL is having scandal after scandal with racist fans etc, an articulate proud aussie who is also aboriginal is doing big things in the US. Comes back here pre-olympics and takes the boomers out to Central Australia, that is huge.
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Could probably add Sainsbury, Spiranovic and Giannou to that list.
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A few nights ago on Shootout, Cahill exhorted Aussies plain overseas to come home for regular game time under good coaches. He was talking up the quality of HAL coaches with uniform methodology, consistent with Ange's Socceroos.
The only problem is he is making a fortune playing in the HAL. Most other Aussie players would have to drop their wages markedly to play HAL football.
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+xA few nights ago on Shootout, Cahill exhorted Aussies plain overseas to come home for regular game time under good coaches. He was talking up the quality of HAL coaches with uniform methodology, consistent with Ange's Socceroos. The only problem is he is making a fortune playing in the HAL. Most other Aussie players would have to drop their wages markedly to play HAL football. Having spent the last few years soaking up all the cash he could find in the USA and China, and having only returned to Australia because of the massive marquee deal the FFA was willing to support - it's a complete piss-take for Cahill to turn around and say anyone should be coming home.
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+x+xA few nights ago on Shootout, Cahill exhorted Aussies plain overseas to come home for regular game time under good coaches. He was talking up the quality of HAL coaches with uniform methodology, consistent with Ange's Socceroos. The only problem is he is making a fortune playing in the HAL. Most other Aussie players would have to drop their wages markedly to play HAL football. Having spent the last few years soaking up all the cash he could find in the USA and China, and having only returned to Australia because of the massive marquee deal the FFA was willing to support - it's a complete piss-take for Cahill to turn around and say anyone should be coming home. In one way it is hypocritical. On the other hand it is good him talking up the HAL. Until this article, I didn't realise the disparity between what players earn overseas, particularly The Gulf and China, compared to Australia - Cahill being the notable exception.
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