2017 FFA Cup Preliminary Rounds


2017 FFA Cup Preliminary Rounds

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TheSelectFew - 13 Jan 2017 4:05 PM
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Surely they wouldnt make it smaller lol. 

I actually think they would reduce Member Federation representation until such time as a Round of 64 is viable, which might be around the time the A-League goes to 14 or 16 teams.
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Glh37 - 13 Jan 2017 7:21 PM
TheSelectFew - 13 Jan 2017 4:05 PM

I actually think they would reduce Member Federation representation until such time as a Round of 64 is viable, which might be around the time the A-League goes to 14 or 16 teams.

I reckon open it. Dont restrict. 


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The best way to do it is make the clubs qualify out of their States. Run the State Cups till an appropriate round then split so the FFA Cup and State Cups can run concurrently with little disruption to the State Cups.

Here is an example I posted in the FFA Cup thread on the main board.



It could work with the HAL clubs Qualifying out of their state without disrupting the State Cups. I agree with TheSelectFew in that some of these State Cups having been rnning for such a long time it would be a shame to see them disrupted. Whilst the FFA Cup is important the State Cups shouldn't be sacrificed for it.
You could keep the State Cup/Qualifying exactly the same but at the appropriate point split from the State Cups and run a concurrent Qualifying sect for the FFA Cup - similar to how the Waratah Cup worked this year with Blacktown City joining a playoff round prior to the Semis after the NSW Ro32 spots were decided. 
The only 2 clubs guaranteed to the Ro32 being the NPL Champs and the Reigning Cup Holder. The Nix can then replace whichever team is the reigning cup holder in their State Qualifying Round. 
CURRENT Ro32PROPOSED Ro32
A-LEAGUE101*Reigning Cup Holder
NPL CHAMPS11
ACT11
NNSW23
NSW58
NT11
QLD45
SA12
TAS11
VIC46
WA23
3232

Using last years Dockerty Cup as an example in the 6th Round of FFA Cup Qualifying/Dockerty Cup there was

Bulleen Lions (2)1–1†Avondale FC (2)
Bulleen Lions advance 4–2 on penalties.
Melbourne Knights (2)3–1Dandenong City (3)
Green Gully (2)2–0Heidelberg United (2)
Malvern City (4)0–4Hume City (2)
Richmond SC (2)3–1Kingston City (3)
Murray United (3)0–3Bentleigh Greens (2)
St Albans Saints (3)2–3Port Melbourne (2)
North Geelong Warriors (3)0–2South Melbourne (2)

At this point the cups could be split with the Dockerty Cup continuing as is and the 8 winners above joining the FFA Cup Qualifying Rounds. Whilst the losers of this Dockerty Cup Round could play off for the final 2 spots. It would look like this

FFA CUP Ro32 QUALIFYING ROUND

Green Gully
Bulleen
Melb. Knights
Port Melbourne
Bentleigh
South Melbourne
Richmond
Hume City
Melbourne Victory
Wellington Pheonix (Melbourne City guaranteed in Ro32)

Then Avondale, Dandenong City, Heidelberg, Malvern City, Kingston City, Murray United, St. Albans, North Geelong could enter their own little pre qualifying knock out for the final 2 spots.

Would probably have to start the NPL seasons and State Cups a few weeks earlier to fit in the extra games but I dont think anyone will mind that.
Will definitely be a different scenario for each State Cup where the HAL clubs join and the split happens dependant on Ro32 Qualifying numbers and when the HAL expands you can just adjust when the Cup split happens according to where the new HAL clubs are. [/quote]
 
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Cheers for that mate. Clearly ditching 100 uears of history isnt a good way to progress. 


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Couldn't Victoria for example have 2 cups (State & National) ? More games for players
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scott21 - 15 Jan 2017 1:52 AM
Couldn't Victoria for example have 2 cups (State & National) ? More games for players

A state league club as it stands in victoria can win:

Super cup
League
League finals
FFA cup
Dockerty cup
And im pretty sure there is a preseason thing. Adding one more makes everything meaningless. Make the tournaments relevant. 


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But it only works out at the moment because Vic get 4 FFA Cup spots.

That means 8 r64. If MV & MC played in that round it would need 10 teams.

Victoria is fortunate they received 1,2,(4),8 etc.

What I meant was having FFA Cup and Doherty Cup as 2 separate competitions.

You end up with the same result , 4 qualifiers for FFA Cup and a Doherty Cup winner. It would mean more games for teams.
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FFA Cup dates – Western Australia,

Round 1 Draw: Date To Be Confirmed by Football West
Round 1: Saturday March 18th 2017/Sunday March 19th 2017

Round 2 Draw: Monday March 20th 2017
Round 2: Saturday March 25th 2017/Sunday March 26th 2017

Round 3 Draw: Monday March 27th 2017
Round 3: Saturday April 1st 2017/Sunday April 2nd 2017

Round 4 Draw: Monday April 3rd 2017
Round 4: Saturday April 15th 2017 – Easter Saturday/Sunday April 16th 2017 – Easter Sunday/Monday April 17th 2017 – Easter Monday

Round 5 Draw: Tuesday April 18th 2017
Round 5: Tuesday April 25th – Anzac Day

Round 6 Draw: Wednesday April 26th 2017
Round 6: Saturday May 20th 2017/Sunday May 21st 2017

Round 7 Draw: Monday May 22nd 2017
Round 7: Monday June 5th 2017 – WA Day
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Football Brisbane - round 2 draw alert:
The draw will be conducted live on Football Brisbane facebook page at 3.30pm Brisbane Time, 4.30pm Melbourne Time on Friday January 20th.


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Brenton1986 - 19 Jan 2017 5:45 PM
Football Brisbane - round 2 draw alert:
The draw will be conducted live on Football Brisbane facebook page at 3.30pm Brisbane Time, 4.30pm Melbourne Time on Friday January 20th.


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FFA Cup Brisbane Zone – second round draw result:
Brighton Bulldogs (7) v Bethania Rams (7)
Moggill (4) v Annerley (5)
Kangaroo Point Rovers (7) v Pine Hills (5)
Newmarket (6) v The Gap (4)
Ipswich City (5) v AC Carina (6)
Caboolture Sports (6) v Centenary Stormers (5)
New Farm United (5) v Westside (6)
Toowong (5) v Logan Metro (7)
Virginia United (5) v Western Spirit (5)
North Brisbane (7) v Redcliffe PCYC (6)
Clairvaux (6) v Brisbane Force (5)
Mount Gravatt (4) v Slacks Creek (6)
Jimboomba United (6) v Springfield United (7)
Mooroondu (7) v Park Ridge (5)
Tarragindi Tigers (6) v Oxley United (5)
Bardon Latrobe (6) v St George Willawong (6)
The Lakes (7) v Acacia Ridge (4)
Narangba United (6) v Pine Rivers United (5)
Logan Village (7) v Samford Rangers (7)

Matches to take place weekend of Friday February10/Saturday February 11/Sunday February 12

Third round draw: Wednesday February 15th time To Be Confirmed
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So fucking stoked!!!!!!


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Slacks Creek ftw
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Anyone keen to do an FFA Cup challenge? You must see one round of each at least. Post the photos here.


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Here are the official venues that can host night matches in the FFA Cup qualifiers,
 
NPL Victoria & NPL 2:
  1. Ballarat City FC
  2. Bendigo City FC
  3. Bentleigh Greens SC
  4. FC Bulleen Lions
  5. Dandenong Thunder SC
  6. Goulburn Valley Suns FC
  7. Green Gully Cavaliers SC
  8. Heidelberg United FC
  9. Hume City FC
  10. Kingston City FC
  11. Melbourne Knights FC
  12. Moreland Zebras FC
  13. Oakleigh Cannons FC
  14. Pascoe Vale FC
  15. Port Melbourne Sharks SC
  16. Richmond SC
  17. South Melbourne FC
  18. Springvale White Eagles FC
  19. Whittlesea Ranges FC
     
    State League 1 North/West:
  20. Altona Magic SC
  21. Geelong SC
  22. Westgate FC
     
    State League 1 South/East:
  23. Casey Comets FC
  24. Mooroolbark SC
  25. South Springvale SC
     
    State League 2 North/West:
  26. Altona City SC
  27. Corio SC
  28. Fitzroy City SC
  29. Hoppers Crossing SC – back pitch only
     
    State League 2 South/East:
  30. Berwick City SC
  31. Doncaster Rovers SC
  32. Eltham Redbacks FC
  33. Frankston Pines FC
  34. Heatherton United SC
     
    State League 3 North/West:
  35. Fawkner SC
  36. FC Strathmore
     
    State League 3 South/East:
  37. Monbulk Rangers SC
  38. Skye United FC
     
    State League 4 West:
  39. Balmoral FC
  40. Golden Plains SC
  41. Melton Phoenix FC
  42. Surf Coast FC

    State League 4 South:
  43. Springvale City SC
     
    State League 4 East:
  44. Croydon City Arrows SC
  45. Ringwood City FC

    State League 5 West:
  46. Deakin University SC
  47. Spring Hills FC
     
    State League 5 East:
  48. Lilydale Eagles SC

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TheSelectFew - 21 Jan 2017 7:03 AM
Anyone keen to do an FFA Cup challenge? You must see one round of each at least. Post the photos here.

Including the Round of 32 onwards?  It's definitely doable for the qualifying rounds, but after that the luck of the draw plays a big part. 

I guess that's the challenge though!


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aussieshorter - 23 Jan 2017 3:35 PM
TheSelectFew - 21 Jan 2017 7:03 AM

Including the Round of 32 onwards?  It's definitely doable for the qualifying rounds, but after that the luck of the draw plays a big part. 

I guess that's the challenge though!

Me and a couple of mates are going to one for each. I did a couple of rounds for last year. This year i want one for all. 

I reckon you can do it in brisbane for sure. 





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Fantastic article on regional clubs and the value of the cup. 

http://fan-attic.riverineherald.com.au/2017/01/23/5577/youre-dreamin-but-what-a-dream



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TheSelectFew - 23 Jan 2017 4:25 PM
aussieshorter - 23 Jan 2017 3:35 PM

Me and a couple of mates are going to one for each. I did a couple of rounds for last year. This year i want one for all. 

I reckon you can do it in brisbane for sure. 



It's easily doable for the qualifying rounds, but in the last few years we've had rounds from the Round of 32 onwards where the only remaining Brisbane teams were drawn away from home. 

But for the qualiyfing rounds I'm in.


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aussieshorter - 24 Jan 2017 9:53 AM
TheSelectFew - 23 Jan 2017 4:25 PM

It's easily doable for the qualifying rounds, but in the last few years we've had rounds from the Round of 32 onwards where the only remaining Brisbane teams were drawn away from home. 

But for the qualiyfing rounds I'm in.

Yeah but all you'd have to do is travel to gold or sunny coast. Surely thats doable. 


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TheSelectFew - 24 Jan 2017 10:23 AM
aussieshorter - 24 Jan 2017 9:53 AM

Yeah but all you'd have to do is travel to gold or sunny coast. Surely thats doable. 

It would be, but even that wasn't possible in some rounds in previous years. 

As long as there's a game in Gold Coast, Brisbane or Sunny Coast in a given round, I'll make it.

If it's like the 2016 version, there were no Queensland teams left in the Quarter finals though!


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aussieshorter - 24 Jan 2017 11:27 AM
TheSelectFew - 24 Jan 2017 10:23 AM

It would be, but even that wasn't possible in some rounds in previous years. 

As long as there's a game in Gold Coast, Brisbane or Sunny Coast in a given round, I'll make it.

If it's like the 2016 version, there were no Queensland teams left in the Quarter finals though!

You'll be fine bud. Just bust a gut and make it around the country.


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SA dates,

Round 2: March 10-11-12-13 (Adelaide Cup weekend)
Round 3: March 24-25-26-27
Round 4: April 14-15-16-17 (Easter long weekend)
Round 5: May 12-13-14
Round 6: June 13-14
Round 7: June 24-25


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Football Federation Victoria updated links:
http://www.footballfedvic.com.au/huge-regional-appetite-for-ffa-cup/
http://www.footballfedvic.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Westfield-FFA-Cup-2017-ADDITIONAL-QUALIFYING-ROUND1.pdf
http://www.footballfedvic.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Westfield-FFA-Cup-2017-Preliminary-Rounds-Victoria-Seeding_-Q2.pdf


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Great too see even more Vic clubs entering. It will be a killer trip up to Mildura to play Irymple if they get drawn at home.
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Warnambool away. 


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TheSelectFew - 11 Dec 2016 9:14 PM
FFA Cup preliminary rounds Wikipedia page has been updated thanks to JMan. BI know he is on here. Just wanted to thank him for his unthanked hard work.

Hey, I only just saw this, Select! Cheers boss, I do what I can! Pity all the states make it difficult to come across some info!
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Hey, I only just saw this, Select! Cheers boss, I do what I can! Pity all the states make it difficult to come across some info!

Just been messaging the shit out of state feds. If i come across info i will stick it on here or message you aight but you'll probably be well on top of it. By the time i get the info you have formatted it to perfection. 


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