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Tasmania's bid for an A-League team is discussing plans to build a football-specific stadium in Hobart, Goal understands.Robert Belteky - one of the main men behind Tasmania's bid - met with Premier Will Hodgman on Thursday to discuss what the island state needs to do to be included in an expanded A-League in the 2018-19 season.Belteky - the owner of parking management group CARe Park - and fellow Victorian businessman Harry Stamoulis are the leaders of a consortium to bring the A-League to Tasmania.
Goal understands that one of the major discussion points was the need for a venue tailored towards football with Tasmania's other major venues - Blundstone Arena in Hobart and Launceston's Aurora Stadium - more suited for Australian rules and cricket. At a press conference after the meeting, Belteky was asked about stadium options fo At a press conference after the meeting, Belteky was asked about stadium options for his proposed club - an issue that is considered the major weakness of Tasmania's bid. Belteky believes that Football Federation Australia's criteria for expansion, which are set to be released before July, will be focused around three pillars: financial backing, overall benefit to the A-League and stadia. "Tasmania needs a rectangular stadium," he said. Belteky added that any future stadium would need to be adaptable for concerts and other sports, while he also confirmed that the bid's working name for their club is FC Tasmania although he insisted that could be changed. FFA wants to increase the A-League to 12 clubs in 2018-19. In November, Belteky and Stamoulis became the first bidders to officially meet with the governing body. Clubs that have already indicated their interest in joining an expanded A-League include South Melbourne, Brisbane Strikers, Wollongong Wolves and Adelaide City, while areas such as southern Sydney, Geelong and the western corridor of Brisbane have long been touted as options.
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Hooray, another Expansion thread Hooray, another Tasmanian Expansion thread
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"Tasmania needs a rectangular stadium," he said.
A small one, not a massive 55k one though.
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+xHooray, another Expansion thread Hooray, another Tasmanian Expansion thread So what mate, better than your constant smirky remarks every 5 seconds. Not everyone is digging 5 pages deep in a topic thread to find the latest article. This keeps the news fresh on the forum homepage. But thanks for your enlightening input as always..
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+x+xHooray, another Expansion thread Hooray, another Tasmanian Expansion thread So what mate, better than your constant smirky remarks every 5 seconds. Not everyone is digging 5 pages deep in a topic thread to find the latest article. This keeps the news fresh on the forum homepage. But thanks for your enlightening input as always.. Is that stickied Expansion thread a bit hard to find ?
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+x+x+xHooray, another Expansion thread Hooray, another Tasmanian Expansion thread So what mate, better than your constant smirky remarks every 5 seconds. Not everyone is digging 5 pages deep in a topic thread to find the latest article. This keeps the news fresh on the forum homepage. But thanks for your enlightening input as always.. Is that stickied Expansion thread a bit hard to find ? Not at all but it's annoying sometimes finding stories on the thread when you have 50 comments intertwined discussing various articles at the same time. Having it fresh on the homepage is still a good option. Is that ok with you multi View from the fence?
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Back on topic.
Interesting to see Tas perhaps finally acknowledging that they will need a football specific stadium if there is any chance of them getting selected. Perhaps until a new stadium agreement is in place they will be missing out on the next round of expansion.
Id say Geelong and Sth Sydney still firm favourites unless a second Brisbane team comes in.
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Besides the Melbourne TV audience, Geelong really doesn't offer that much more than Tasmania in reality.
It will prob look worse on TV with a future 40k stadium after the 5th stage of redevelopment
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That's been my argument whenever Geelong is brought up. Other than being in the Melbourne tv region they offer no more than Tassie or any other regional bid would. And in reality Foxtels priority is subscribers over ratings.
Really hope the bid puts the screws on the government - you Think you deserve a team as much as you say then prove it. Don't use us an excuse to milk grant money out of Turnbull to upgrade an oval venue.
Rectangular or nothing.
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+x+x+xHooray, another Expansion thread Hooray, another Tasmanian Expansion thread So what mate, better than your constant smirky remarks every 5 seconds. Not everyone is digging 5 pages deep in a topic thread to find the latest article. This keeps the news fresh on the forum homepage. But thanks for your enlightening input as always.. Is that stickied Expansion thread a bit hard to find ? Isn't that thread just for the same 3-4 people to argue about South Melbourne?
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+xHooray, another Expansion thread Hooray, another Tasmanian Expansion thread 
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+x+x+x+xHooray, another Expansion thread Hooray, another Tasmanian Expansion thread So what mate, better than your constant smirky remarks every 5 seconds. Not everyone is digging 5 pages deep in a topic thread to find the latest article. This keeps the news fresh on the forum homepage. But thanks for your enlightening input as always.. Is that stickied Expansion thread a bit hard to find ? Isn't that thread just for the same 3-4 people to argue about South Melbourne? Nailed it.
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+xBesides the Melbourne TV audience, Geelong really doesn't offer that much more than Tasmania in reality.It will prob look worse on TV with a future 40k stadium after the 5th stage of redevelopment Altho i agree with your second statement regarding stadium etc, in terms of tv audience more people in melbourne that either support city or victory are more inclined to also watch geelong play for the pure sake of wanting them to lose. There is less interest in watching a tassie team play outside of tassie once the novelty wears off.
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Why would they want Geelong to lose?
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+x+xBesides the Melbourne TV audience, Geelong really doesn't offer that much more than Tasmania in reality.It will prob look worse on TV with a future 40k stadium after the 5th stage of redevelopment Altho i agree with your second statement regarding stadium etc, in terms of tv audience more people in melbourne that either support city or victory are more inclined to also watch geelong play for the pure sake of wanting them to lose. There is less interest in watching a tassie team play outside of tassie once the novelty wears off. This idea of yours that we will inherently dislike a team out of Geelong is seriously misplaced. Most people don't even have an opinion about Geelong, let alone have an inherent dislike for it's residents. The Cats only have that because they've been around so long and have had their fair share of dickhead players. If you want to get an emotive viewing response out of people, then you would put in South Melbourne or Apex FC
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+xThat's been my argument whenever Geelong is brought up. Other than being in the Melbourne tv region they offer no more than Tassie or any other regional bid would. And in reality Foxtels priority is subscribers over ratings. Really hope the bid puts the screws on the government - you Think you deserve a team as much as you say then prove it. Don't use us an excuse to milk grant money out of Turnbull to upgrade an oval venue. Rectangular or nothing. You are right in saying that Fox's major concern is subscribers but with 500k subscribers in Melbourne and an annual churn of just over 10% the extra content of special interest to Melburnians is much more valuable to them than content of special interest to Tasmanians where there are only 40k subscribers. They have to replace more subscribers in Melbourne annually than the numbers of subscribers in Tasmania.
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+xWhy would they want Geelong to lose? Perhaps because there are people that live in Geelong that work in Melbourne and thus creates a rivalry amongst supporters. Just take a look at what happened during Victory's game at Geelong a few weeks ago when Victory supporters bood Geelong Cat's ex player. Same type of mentality is my guess.
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+x+x+x+xHooray, another Expansion thread Hooray, another Tasmanian Expansion thread So what mate, better than your constant smirky remarks every 5 seconds. Not everyone is digging 5 pages deep in a topic thread to find the latest article. This keeps the news fresh on the forum homepage. But thanks for your enlightening input as always.. Is that stickied Expansion thread a bit hard to find ? Isn't that thread just for the same 3-4 people to argue about South Melbourne? should re-title it
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+x+x+xBesides the Melbourne TV audience, Geelong really doesn't offer that much more than Tasmania in reality.It will prob look worse on TV with a future 40k stadium after the 5th stage of redevelopment Altho i agree with your second statement regarding stadium etc, in terms of tv audience more people in melbourne that either support city or victory are more inclined to also watch geelong play for the pure sake of wanting them to lose. There is less interest in watching a tassie team play outside of tassie once the novelty wears off. This idea of yours that we will inherently dislike a team out of Geelong is seriously misplaced. Most people don't even have an opinion about Geelong, let alone have an inherent dislike for it's residents. The Cats only have that because they've been around so long and have had their fair share of dickhead players. If you want to get an emotive viewing response out of people, then you would put in South Melbourne or Apex FC I agree that if Sth Melb went in they would get the same response. My point was in relation to viewers at home from Melbourne more inclined to watch another club in the vicinity of Melbourne where there are rivalries than a random team like Tasmania. People on here keep giving City shit for the lack of support they generate, yet they are one of the most viewed sides (on tv) in the comp. SO clearly it's not just City fans watching but likely to be others in Melbourne. And is it any surprise that some the more regional teams are viewed less on avg on tv?
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Just put Canberra in the competition for FFS.
They have a rectangular enough stadium, capacity 25k, not too big.
They are located within driving distance of NSW clubs so they will get good home attendances from away supporters.
They have a population more than double Geelong and Hobart.
They have an existing brand and identity with the W league team
They are the nations capital, it's a disgrace NZ has their capital and ours doesn't
It's moronic that all these poxy bids like Tasmania and Geelong which dont even have proper infrastructure are being considered while Canberra is seemingly left out in the cold.
Just put Canberra in FFS!
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+xJust put Canberra in the competition for FFS. They have a rectangular enough stadium, capacity 25k, not too big. They are located within driving distance of NSW clubs so they will get good home attendances from away supporters. They have a population more than double Geelong and Hobart. They have an existing brand and identity with the W league team They are the nations capital, it's a disgrace NZ has their capital and ours doesn't It's moronic that all these poxy bids like Tasmania and Geelong which dont even have proper infrastructure are being considered while Canberra is seemingly left out in the cold. Just put Canberra in FFS! FFA pissed off the ALeague4Canberra bid. They're not coming back. I wouldn't either.
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+xJust put Canberra in the competition for FFS. They have a rectangular enough stadium, capacity 25k, not too big. They are located within driving distance of NSW clubs so they will get good home attendances from away supporters. They have a population more than double Geelong and Hobart. They have an existing brand and identity with the W league team They are the nations capital, it's a disgrace NZ has their capital and ours doesn't It's moronic that all these poxy bids like Tasmania and Geelong which dont even have proper infrastructure are being considered while Canberra is seemingly left out in the cold. Just put Canberra in FFS! It's a capital by compromise rather than being one due to it's status as a great city. It exists for virtually no purpose other than being not Melbourne or Sydney. Do they have corporate backing? (Canberra is all politics rather than commercial/industrial) Does the area have a history of following football? (Cosmos went down like a lead balloon) Do they currently have a bidding entity? (the guy who ran the last bid has said he's not up for it again) Tasmania has two big commercial backers, local businesses who could sponsor them, and they have no rival football codes in town. South Melbourne has a major commercial backer, access to Melbourne's business market, and an established history in the game. Wollongong has (allegedly) got some major backing, decent boutique stadium, easy links to Sydney, and an established history in the game. Canberra has... An oversized venue and the status of capital city... That's it.
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+xJust put Canberra in the competition for FFS. They have a rectangular enough stadium, capacity 25k, not too big. They are located within driving distance of NSW clubs so they will get good home attendances from away supporters. They have a population more than double Geelong and Hobart. They have an existing brand and identity with the W league team They are the nations capital, it's a disgrace NZ has their capital and ours doesn't It's moronic that all these poxy bids like Tasmania and Geelong which dont even have proper infrastructure are being considered while Canberra is seemingly left out in the cold. Just put Canberra in FFS! Tassie has the infrastructure, but no rectangular stadium. Given Victory have played most home games out of an oval stadium, does this matter?
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+xTassie has the infrastructure, but no rectangular stadium.
What other infrastructure does a football team require ?
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You're so full of shit Ben.
Hellas also has a history of being a Hellenic club, rather than a south melbourne club. It plays at a poxy stadium that isnt suitable for the A league. You will struggle to get crowds of 5k, most south supporters are either dead or too frail, and their kids and grandkids are more likely to support victory and heart. Plus when you fans start ripping out the Greek flags and hellas chants any minimal mainstream support you managed to fool will abandon you in droves.
South died years ago.
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+x+xJust put Canberra in the competition for FFS. They have a rectangular enough stadium, capacity 25k, not too big. They are located within driving distance of NSW clubs so they will get good home attendances from away supporters. They have a population more than double Geelong and Hobart. They have an existing brand and identity with the W league team They are the nations capital, it's a disgrace NZ has their capital and ours doesn't It's moronic that all these poxy bids like Tasmania and Geelong which dont even have proper infrastructure are being considered while Canberra is seemingly left out in the cold. Just put Canberra in FFS! It's a capital by compromise rather than being one due to it's status as a great city. It exists for virtually no purpose other than being not Melbourne or Sydney. Do they have corporate backing? (Canberra is all politics rather than commercial/industrial) Does the area have a history of following football? (Cosmos went down like a lead balloon) Do they currently have a bidding entity? (the guy who ran the last bid has said he's not up for it again) Tasmania has two big commercial backers, local businesses who could sponsor them, and they have no rival football codes in town. South Melbourne has a major commercial backer, access to Melbourne's business market, and an established history in the game. Wollongong has (allegedly) got some major backing, decent boutique stadium, easy links to Sydney, and an established history in the game. Canberra has... An oversized venue and the status of capital city... That's it. Well said!
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Are you kidding? Theyre fucking awful arguments. Companies dont need their head office in a fucking city to sponsor a team from that city. Huawei sponsor the Raiders and they dont even have a shop in the fucking city.
As for Stadium , 25k is near perfect for a football stadium. Canberra will average 10-15 during the regular season and close to 15-25 for finals. How dumb is Ben complimenting Wollongongs stadium which holds 23k while criticising Canberras.
They're all shit worthless arguments and you're a cock if you think otherwise.
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+xAre you kidding? Theyre fucking awful arguments. Companies dont need their head office in a fucking city to sponsor a team from that city. Huawei sponsor the Raiders and they dont even have a shop in the fucking city. As for Stadium , 25k is near perfect for a football stadium. Canberra will average 10-15 during the regular season and close to 15-25 for finals. How dumb is Ben complimenting Wollongongs stadium which holds 23k while criticising Canberras. They're all shit worthless arguments and you're a cock if you think otherwise. Based on... hopes and dreams?
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+x+xAre you kidding? Theyre fucking awful arguments. Companies dont need their head office in a fucking city to sponsor a team from that city. Huawei sponsor the Raiders and they dont even have a shop in the fucking city. As for Stadium , 25k is near perfect for a football stadium. Canberra will average 10-15 during the regular season and close to 15-25 for finals. How dumb is Ben complimenting Wollongongs stadium which holds 23k while criticising Canberras. They're all shit worthless arguments and you're a cock if you think otherwise. Based on... hopes and dreams? Applying the "nothing-else-to-do" argument TBF it worked in West Sydney
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