So the clubs that can afford it will be in the Second div? What type of costs would they incur?

National Premier League Championship, then.

Editing with a second thought of National Premier League Australia. NPLA. Certainly makes sense sitting on top of NPLV, NPLNSW, etc.

Why do you care.

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Don't know if this has been answered, but if there are 40+ NPL clubs putting their hands up then how will they get it down to 14 clubs for this new league(Australian National Premier League?)?

I can see how it could progress with a relegation play off with the top state team if you are in the bottom 2, so long as the state level champion meets economic criteria etc for being in ANPL, (No point promoting a club to ANPL that can't afford to pay players, travel them to games etc). Some would complain that it would create an artifical league in that even the small states, Tas, ACT would have a guaranteed position

However, even before that, say all 10 of Canberra's NPL teams put their hands up, who and how do they decide who plays in this new league? 

A lot of people are putting the cart before the horse. Let's let the dust settle first and then answer these questions.

I would imagine it would work by voluntary promotion. Can you answer X Y Z criteria? Yes/no.

How does this affect you? Can I ask, and this is general, if this question was answered what further knowledge would you gain of the sustainability of the project?

Would you also understand the ins and outs of running a semi pro/ pro club? Would you know if they were seeking other sources of financial revenue? No. So why ask a question like this. It answers nothing.

Where did you find this?

Strong clubs with resources in first to test waters and provide a platform for the rest. It might be rough on the smaller clubs to start with but with Pro/Rel a key mentality of this association, they won't have to wait long to prove they deserve to be there.

This is a football forum isn't it? The whole point is to discuss football topics.

It affects all of us because we're Australian football fans discussing football in Australia. We gain the knowledge that if the extra costs are high, it limits the amount of clubs that can take part. If the costs are low, financial backing becomes a less critical factor in determining who can be a part of the new competition.

No offense intended, but your response to his question seemed very odd. Has this user given you reason to doubt that his question was genuine?

The important issue is getting all the NPL clubs behind a Div2.Once this is done,I maintain it's relatively easy to get a cheap model in place to start the ball rolling.
Just as a proof of concept,initially the Div2 could have 12 teams,being teams from the top NPL competition in each state,with variations depending on state size and whatever compromise is required to get things rolling.
An eleven round season and finals is not going to break the bank.If a sponsor can be found and some media rights can be attached ,based on the kudos of a new competiton, and first rights to a renewed contract ,if the competition is a success.
Costs could go close to being covered.
If a rich benefactor can throw in some money,then problem solved.
Whatever the funding required it wont be a huge impost.

You don't know tfozz very well then.

love it :D

Geez, if most of this news is actually true, it sounds like the FFA are starting to crack, and heads could roll or resign in the next few weeks/months.
If the states hold 80%-90% of the voting power, and they're all uniting for a second division than the FFA could have practically no say. The A-league clubs, who surely by now can smell blood, will be in the corner of the NPL clubs as well, up against the FFA.

If they were to get a national 2nd division off the ground, which I think they can, I think it could really work. For me, promotion and relegation to and from the A-league is still a long way off, as that competition still really needs to stabilise itself and all the current clubs, and expansion needs to happen, as there's clearly not enough teams. But if a second division can happen in the background separate to that, than its a win-win for the entire sport. Plus the FFA doesn't have the funds or the man power to canvas the potential of a 2nd Div anyway, better off somebody else doing it for them.

And I agree with Cockerill, if they could run the 2nd Div independently from any of the clubs, that'll be a huge positive. Maybe this could work out in FFA's favour, where this could be used as a dress rehearsal for certain clubs to make the step up into the A-league from the 2nd Div, instead of the FFA planting franchises which don't yet exist into geographical areas.

Really can't see this happening for countless reasons. It has to be sanctioned by the FFA or the clubs involved will be banned from FIFA, so i hope this doesn't backfire for them. I still can't imagine a second tier league being ready in under two years, and in the near future fully integrated into the a-league with a P/R system. Id love P/R but the time isn't right for it, the money just isn't there to back this kind of project. Again this needs to be a sanctioned comp, it can't be a rebel league, it will cause significant issues for the state clubs and associations. Im still in favour of restructuring the whole mess into a national system, if we did that then there is much more hope for an effective and successful second tier and beyond.

3 years tops boys 

Right on que, Mr Negative number two. 

I don't think I'm being negative, I think I'm being realistic.

This lizard should become a M80 tifo.

G up fb.

Facebook eyes sports streaming

12:00AM March 13, 2017

Facebook has signed a deal with Major League Soccer
Facebook is stepping up efforts to acquire rights to stream professional sporting events, as that content becomes a key element of its strategy to grow its video business.

The latest move: the social media giant signed a deal with Major League Soccer and Spanish-language broadcaster Univision that gives it exclusive, English-language rights to stream at least 22 regular-season soccer games in the US. The first game will stream on March 18.

MLS will also produce more than 40 “Matchday Live” analysis shows for Facebook that will be exclusive to the social media giant globally. The games will appear on Univision Deportes’ Facebook page, while the live shows will stream on MLS’ Facebook page.

Facebook executives are eager to bring more sports content to the platform given its popularity among its 1.86 billion monthly users. About 35 per cent of Facebook’s monthly user base — or 650 million people — is connected to at least one sports page on the social network. Facebook said soccer is the most-followed sport among its users.

The company is also in talks with Major League Baseball for live streaming rights, according to sources, and it recently signed deals with World Surf League and NBA’s minor league organisation.

Acquiring media rights to major sporting events is challenging as many are tied up in long-term deals with broadcasters. The NBA’s deal with ESPN and TNT stretches until the 2024-2025 season.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/facebook-eyes-sports-streaming/news-story/60dac70abe0a1c72929b749a3190fdf6

I'm thinking the FFA are gonna do all it can to railroad this. It would be embarrassing for them if a bunch of NPL clubs were able to get together and organise a competition more effectively than them...

@select I made that, but the lizard one knocked me out of the park. As Melb_terrace said the lizard needs a tifo

sounds to me like division 3 is already set up then.  we could have 3 national divisions above state conferences.  sounds good to me.

you would think the ffa would be applauding this.  it meets their prerogative of doing fuck all and expecting outcomes.

One thing I find interesting and that might play on the FFA's mind is that a National 2nd division could potentially provide serious competition to the a-league unless the a-league opened itself up and embraced the tier system.

Imagine a second division with no salary cap or floor, with free coverage(whether SBS/FTA or streaming), with promotion and relegation between divisions.

@eldar

No doubt if FFA were to give it the green light they would stipulate certain restrictions on it.

How is it very odd when a bunch of shit kickers on a football thread are trying to become experts on a clubs current and future financial status so thry can experts on the future of football. 

Its tiring to hear the same bullshit from the same people and once again i have called them out on it. 

The ffa will be at the mercy of the board so if the numbers are right, this will happen and be sanctioned by the board.

I like it.