And yet SBS continue with the same boring commentary team. What a JOKE!!!!!!!!

Your insight shows why the other FTA networks are seriously looking at the new deal for 2017 - 2018 onwards.

In other codes the Fox ratio to FTA TV is 3.5 to 4.5..... SBS runs at about 0.70 ... 

Consider 3.5 compared to on average about 0.70 ... that is a huge difference ...

Could not agree more.... just compare BashEar with the EPL callers for starters...

I agree with your conclusion

SBS2 and SBS1 both had good seasons (and equal ratings). Once the HD option was dropped the ratings have effectively halved

A League games are about 175k-200k for big games and openers, 150k for first 10 rounds, and about 75k-100k for other games

The EPL seems to be about 50k-75k above that, but largely based on who is playing (or rather 2-3 teams). This can be expected given what we know about football fans in this country


I find it funny how people are saying payTV is bigger than our FTA coverage. Its only true if you ignore the first 2 seasons. The fact that payTV is now consistently out rating the FTA coverage shows this is the exception, not the rule. That's why its unprecedented

So epl massively outrating HAL on SBS.Can Eurosnobs really outnumber HAL supporters 2 or 3-1?Do only Eurosnobs know how to find SBS?
Maybe it suggests a lot of Eurosnobs have Foxtel and not Optus.Still when a Manu game can get 300k and HAL season opener only 100k ,with all the MV fans at home,something is going on.
Presumably Bluebird will have some insight on how this rating shows HAL supporters know how to find SBS.
My conclusion is HAL supporters like HD and don't like SBS commentary.SBS treats HAL with contempt and HAL fans treat them with contempt.

If not, you can throw out the idea that subscription TV ratings share causation with attendance figures for good.

We must be the only sport Australia where the pay tv channel out rates the fta tv channel 9 out of 10 times. But that kind of fox rating is very encouraging, last year that game was well under 100k, so hopefully we get a real uplift in ratings this year. Makes me think that the Sydney derby tonight, might have the best ratings for a regular season game ever. Hopefully. 

Mediaweek ‏@MediaweekAUS 2h2 hours ago
Fri TV #ALeague #SBS2 #BRIvMVC 118k

BRISBANE V MELBOURNE

FTA SBS2 - 118,000
STV Fox Sports 4 - 129,000

= 247,000

Damn good but lol @ more people watching on Fox compared to SBS. One day we'll get on a bigger FTA channel and it'll skyrocket.

Like China. 

Anyway, I remember Sydney getting all bent out of shape when they lost the exceptions they had for years and the Alf media rushed to their aid. I sit there listening to the popular opinion and think ' do you hear what you are saying?'

I'm sure free tickets don't always make up for this blatant injustice. 

Anyone got Australia nt figures?

129k on foxsports that is a great start. 

I can understand why fans in the other Aussie Rules states outside Victoria (WA, SA, TAS) would be very sick of the current AFL regime.

Many have speculated for a long time that the AFL's obsession in new, uninterested markets at the expense of their base would bite them in the arse.

Eddie is not accustomed to dissent, and they've been able to keep a lid on it for now with their money and blanket media dominance, but time will tell how they adapt to the 21st century.

I think by the half way point of the century things will look very different.

More people watched the AFL Grand Final in Brisbane than they did in Adelaide or Perth. Find it hard to believe.

I know people are going to crucify me for this, and I sound like a bit of a hypocrite, but I think this is an interesting article about finals TV ratings?

http://theconversation.com/afl-and-nrl-grand-final-tv-ratings-show-codes-still-rely-on-their-traditional-heartlands-66485

Key points I have taken out of it.

1. QLD & NSW account for 53% of Aust. Pop and 57% of TV advertising revenue (giving League a slight advantage)
2. Sydney is the largest Market - 29% (also a benefit to League) compared to 21% for Melbourne
3. More Vic's watched the League while fewer Sydney Siders watched AFL
4. Both Expansion teams though (Swans in Sydney and Storm in Melbourne) both had some of their worst ratings in their respective expanded markets (lowest for the Swans and 2nd lowest for the Storm in terms of TV ratings in their own city).

ON the positive for AFL, they had more overall numbers and their viewers were more engaged with the broadcast, watching 64% of the final AFL as apposed 56% for NRL.

Overall I think you can see why Sydney seems to be more of a target for the FFA as opposed to anywhere else. And it can be more than just hard numbers that count in the end.

Trouble for AFL.

Thought the numbers for Adelaide and Perth were quite low. Aren't they supposed to be AFL states?

Replying to your own multi hahaha

My apologies.

I'm looking forward to no more postings about AFL and NRL for a while,but........

Newcastle Knights beating Manly was better

That 99 storm grand final. 

I really miss the afternoon league finals. Used to watch them as a kid all the time. Cant image kids under 8 watching them nowadays.

Yeh, over 4 million (metro plus regional), just on 3 mill for metro, peak audience in final quarter surpassed 5.1 mill.

Massive numbers for a Saturday arvo.

In Sydney, the average audience was 44% up on last year with 534,000 in-home viewers and a peak of 705,000 cheering on the gallant Swans. It was the highest Sydney audience since their winning 2012 Grand Final.

http://www.mediaweek.com.au/biggest-afl-grand-final-tv-crowd-decade/

Amazing numbers, 4th highest in AFL history.

And you're spot on about Saturday arvo being TV's deadzone.

Sunday night effectively has double the available TV audience as  Saturday arvo, so if you can get 4 mill nationwide on a Saturday arvo, you are absolutely killing it plus some.

AFL Grand Final - Metro Average Audience     = 3,039,000
                             Metro+Regional Audience   = 4,089,000
                             Five City Metro Average Audience Figures
                             SYDNEY- 534,000
                            MELBOURNE - 1,446,000
                             BRISBANE - 370,000
                            ADELAIDE - 318,000
                            PERTH - 372,000


NRL Grand Final Metro Average Audience = 2,647,000
                           Metro+Regional Audience = 3,733,000
                           Five City Metro Average Audience Figures
                           SYDNEY- 1,059,000
                           MELBOURNE - 641,000
                          BRISBANE - 720,000
                          ADELAIDE - 109,000
                          PERTH - 118,000

Considering the AFL final isnt shown in primetime and the NRL was, its a clear win for the AFL. Although they did get lucky with Sydney in the final.  

No, your right, the AFL is going to fail in NSW because it has had a 400% decrease in finals ratings :ermm:

I shouldn't have interrupted his gloating.

yeah, that's what I said, the two figures I gave might very well have been metro - looks like they were. Was just from mumbrella. 

No your figure was metro. Australia wide it was over 4 million. 

And as for the Sydney line yeah it is funny. Just maybe not to you. 

They both may very well be metro. As for the swans line, it's not that funny, am I missing something? for the record I don't follow NRL.