Why do NPL teams have First grade-U20s-18s?


Why do NPL teams have First grade-U20s-18s?

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The Fans - 3 May 2017 9:15 PM
theFOOTBALLlover - 3 May 2017 9:00 PM

I think they all have first grade-u20s-18s actually. The divisions underneath are all different though. Why would you want a universal model anyway?  

NNSW npl has changed to a 18s 20s, 1st grade from a 19s, 23s, 1st grade model just for the information.

Don't really have an opinion about which is better but it has been an interesting thread to read. I have a question though, Is it the federations driving the removal of a "second grade" to promote youth development or was it driven by the clubs to cut the costs of fielding two teams of seniors when player payments were rising? Particularly since, at least when I was playing back in the day, the first grade and the reserve grade had their own squad of fresh reserves for match day. Better for clubs financially to have one squad and offer contracts to local league first graders for injury replacements if needed.

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The Fans - 3 May 2017 9:15 PM
theFOOTBALLlover - 3 May 2017 9:00 PM

I think they all have first grade-u20s-18s actually. The divisions underneath are all different though. Why would you want a universal model anyway?  

Why wouldn't you? If it's the best practise, easier for scouting for youth tournament, etc.
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Angus - 4 May 2017 6:43 AM
The Fans - 3 May 2017 9:15 PM

NNSW npl has changed to a 18s 20s, 1st grade from a 19s, 23s, 1st grade model just for the information.

Don't really have an opinion about which is better but it has been an interesting thread to read. I have a question though, Is it the federations driving the removal of a "second grade" to promote youth development or was it driven by the clubs to cut the costs of fielding two teams of seniors when player payments were rising? Particularly since, at least when I was playing back in the day, the first grade and the reserve grade had their own squad of fresh reserves for match day. Better for clubs financially to have one squad and offer contracts to local league first graders for injury replacements if needed.

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The Fans - 3 May 2017 9:15 PM
theFOOTBALLlover - 3 May 2017 9:00 PM
the cWhat bothers me the most is that some NPL's have different age groups. I think the Victorian NPL have under 21's and NSW have under 20's but want to change it to under 23's. Surely the FFA has worked out the best model for development and passed the message onto the state federations to implement a universal model.

I think they all have first grade-u20s-18s actually. The divisions underneath are all different though. Why would you want a universal model anyway?  

Is there no agreed model for development ? 
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Angus - 4 May 2017 6:43 AM
The Fans - 3 May 2017 9:15 PM

NNSW npl has changed to a 18s 20s, 1st grade from a 19s, 23s, 1st grade model just for the information.

Don't really have an opinion about which is better but it has been an interesting thread to read. I have a question though, Is it the federations driving the removal of a "second grade" to promote youth development or was it driven by the clubs to cut the costs of fielding two teams of seniors when player payments were rising? Particularly since, at least when I was playing back in the day, the first grade and the reserve grade had their own squad of fresh reserves for match day. Better for clubs financially to have one squad and offer contracts to local league first graders for injury replacements if needed.

Some club's don't pay 20's though

And apparently 19's won't be apart of seniors next year only 23's & firsts

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Volrath2002 - 2 May 2017 8:00 AM
CIn the ACT most NPL clubs have reserves in either the Capital League or SL 1 either under the same banner or a feeder club banner.

Also, the 20s NPL allows, I think its 3, overage players. I know that with the Riverina Rhinos for example (where the reserve grade is effectively the local association competition), use the 20s as a de facto reserve grade. I do know our first grade has a lot of players under 20, who dont play NPL20 (probably the main reason why our 20s side is rock bottom after 4 games)

This is where, as i mentioned in another thread, I thought there was national standards with the NPL. NPL23s would be good instead of 20s though.
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