Youtube to contest for the FTA rights for the A-league


Youtube to contest for the FTA rights for the A-league

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I work for a partner company of Google (Sydney) and last night fittingly the same time as the ABC broadcast of Sydney v Liverpool was a executive meeting about "Youtube/Australian Football Rights"




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mods can move this to rumor mill if need be...

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Interesting, any idea what sort of investment they are looking at making?

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Eldar - 25 May 2017 10:20 AM
Interesting, any idea what sort of investment they are looking at making?

No sorry, I just work in the same office building and saw the large notice.



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Youtube's business model is that they don't pay for content - I can't see that changing anytime soon.
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pippinu - 25 May 2017 10:23 AM
Youtube's business model is that they don't pay for content - I can't see that changing anytime soon.

Then probably a meeting about how to stop Youtubians pirating

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View from the fence - 25 May 2017 10:34 AM
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Then probably a meeting about how to stop Youtubians pirating

The various professional sports do take action in a variety of ways to stop their content getting onto Youtube. 

Others are able to control the flow of content directly, so that they are the primary source on YouTube, even if there is some pirating happening.

Either way, I'm not aware of Youtube ever having spent one cent on any of its content.
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pippinu - 25 May 2017 10:23 AM
Youtube's business model is that they don't pay for content - I can't see that changing anytime soon.

They might not directly pay for content, but their advertisers do. Not to mention Youtube Red (their paid service) is advertised very frequently nowadays on youtube and their apps.
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sokorny - 25 May 2017 10:52 AM
pippinu - 25 May 2017 10:23 AM

They might not directly pay for content, but their advertisers do. Not to mention Youtube Red (their paid service) is advertised very frequently nowadays on youtube and their apps.

That advertisers pay might be good for Youtube, not sure how that helps the FFA.  Also, the original poster stated that the FFA might be considering YouTube as a replacement for FTA coverage.  Really???
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pippinu - 25 May 2017 10:23 AM
Youtube's business model is that they don't pay for content - I can't see that changing anytime soon.

False.
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pippinu - 25 May 2017 11:03 AM
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That advertisers pay might be good for Youtube, not sure how that helps the FFA.  Also, the original poster stated that the FFA might be considering YouTube as a replacement for FTA coverage.  Really???

I think you'd find a Youtube channel (service provider) would buy the rights and then use Youtube as the media to telecast it. I don't see YouTube doing it directly, but they may be discussing if they can actually provide the service to a channel??

Who knows? All speculation and gossip atm!
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pippinu - 25 May 2017 11:03 AM
sokorny - 25 May 2017 10:52 AM

That advertisers pay might be good for Youtube, not sure how that helps the FFA.  Also, the original poster stated that the FFA might be considering YouTube as a replacement for FTA coverage.  Really???

Well streaming services are the future of visual media delivery.

Traditional TV services will be dead and buried soon enough, just like print media.

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There is also Youtube TV which is a paid subscription service (not Youtube Red) which is US$35/month and is a replacement for cable tv in the states.
https://tv.youtube.com/welcome/
http://www.techradar.com/news/youtube-tv-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-tv-streaming-service

Google could look at getting "premium" content in Australia/NZ to offer a Youtube TV service in the region.
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One youtube, netflix etc take on live sport, TV is gone. Only a matter of time.

Optus showed us how not to do it with the EPL, but companies that actually know what they're doing taking it up will show how it's done.
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pippinu - 25 May 2017 11:03 AM
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That advertisers pay might be good for Youtube, not sure how that helps the FFA.  

apparently a monetarized youtube channel earns approx $1 per 1000 views of a video for the uploader, maybe could be more if there's multiple adds in a 90 minute match. Hard to see FFA making anything more than small change off it.
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paulbagzFC - 25 May 2017 11:07 AM
pippinu - 25 May 2017 11:03 AM

Well streaming services are the future of visual media delivery.

Traditional TV services will be dead and buried soon enough, just like print media.

-PB

True enough, although the decline in print media was much more rapid (and news providers are still struggling to make sufficient coin in the digital world).

For the time being, and for at least the next few years, TV is still pulling in big advertising dollars and digital  rights are not as lucrative as TV rights.

Even for the AFL, of its $2.5 billion deal, only $300 mill was related to digital - and the AFL has a very big digital presence (easily the biggest of any Australian sporting competition).
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alvn1 - 25 May 2017 11:12 AM
pippinu - 25 May 2017 11:03 AM

apparently a monetarized youtube channel earns approx $1 per 1000 views of a video for the uploader, maybe could be more if there's multiple adds in a 90 minute match. Hard to see FFA making anything more than small change off it.

Many youtube content providers will also have in video ads, 'this video is brought to you by XXX', so on top of any youtube ad revenue you can also sell ad spots within the broadcast.
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Bullion - 25 May 2017 11:19 AM
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Many youtube content providers will also have in video ads, 'this video is brought to you by XXX', so on top of any youtube ad revenue you can also sell ad spots within the broadcast.

Simple banner across the bottom of the screen every 5 minutes (not to mention halftime ads) would secure reasonable revenue for the broadcaster you'd think. It might also be a sneaky way for the FFA to keep gambling advertising in light of the Government legislation to clamp down on it on FTA too.
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alvn1 - 25 May 2017 11:12 AM
pippinu - 25 May 2017 11:03 AM

apparently a monetarized youtube channel earns approx $1 per 1000 views of a video for the uploader, maybe could be more if there's multiple adds in a 90 minute match. Hard to see FFA making anything more than small change off it.

I should hardly think that it'd be a matter of the FFA chucking up the footage on a regular monetised account lol.

I expect they'd have a pay per view or subscription deal, like the movies I linked above.
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1. YouTube does pay for content. You just need to meet certain hurdles.

2. I thought Netflix have said they don't want to operate in the live sport market yet.

The meeting could be anything. Maybe it's a play for NPL rights :)
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Bullion - 25 May 2017 11:08 AM
There is also Youtube TV which is a paid subscription service (not Youtube Red) which is US$35/month and is a replacement for cable tv in the states.
https://tv.youtube.com/welcome/
http://www.techradar.com/news/youtube-tv-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-tv-streaming-service

Google could look at getting "premium" content in Australia/NZ to offer a Youtube TV service in the region.

Exactly. Youtube TV is essentially youtube's netflix competitor so they will be buying rights to different shows and channels. Not sure if they're doing that for Australian content yet as I've only seen talk of American networks. 

As far as advertising, it would be no different to what they do on TV where they put the adds in the broadcast, no need to use Youtube's actual advertising platform.

Not sure what they'd do as far as presenters etc goes.
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alvn1 - 25 May 2017 11:12 AM
pippinu - 25 May 2017 11:03 AM

apparently a monetarized youtube channel earns approx $1 per 1000 views of a video for the uploader, maybe could be more if there's multiple adds in a 90 minute match. Hard to see FFA making anything more than small change off it.

Other thing to consider as well, is that the video stays after the live performance. It's ability to continue to generate revenue stays with it, its not solely about live views.

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lol people taking this seriously when it was posted after the ABC coverage and the multi's name is one letter away from Yoshi. 
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soil - 25 May 2017 12:58 PM
lol people taking this seriously when it was posted after the ABC coverage and the multi's name is one letter away from Yoshi. 

Do you have some sort of relationship with a ABC staff member or something? 
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soil - 25 May 2017 12:58 PM

Do you have some sort of relationship with a ABC staff member or something? 

What's my relationship with Kumi got to do with any of this? 
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The Argentinian Primera Division has been shown for about the last 4-5 years (until recently) by the national government on it's internet site Futbol para todos, which also has a youtube channel. Until recently you could watch most matches live simply by logging on to youtube and going to Futbol para todos. There was a crisis earlier this season when recently elected Mauricio Macri (president of Argentina, and also ex president of Boca Juniors, I know! What a country where the president of a football club can become the president of the nation!), terminated the contract. You can still watch the Argentine league on Youtube - there are some other youtube posters that broadcast matches, or you can watch matches on the websites of the t.v channels that broadcast it live.

For those interested, I highly recommend the Primera. It is absolutely addictive. Great quality matches, great atmosphere in lots of them, and its ridiculously unbelievable how many 90 plus minute goals there are to win matches, it seems to be much, much more than other leagues. If you're a Victory fan, why not support Velez? They are basically an inverse kit of Victory (ie White with Blue V home-Blue with white V away).
If you like the whole cultural aspect of football- the primera is absolutely magnificent with lots of history and rivalries outside the superclassico and great emotion. It's also fun to learn spanish. Anyway-its still on youtube, sorry for getting carried away.

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Exactly. Youtube TV is essentially youtube's netflix competitor so they will be buying rights to different shows and channels. Not sure if they're doing that for Australian content yet as I've only seen talk of American networks. 

As far as advertising, it would be no different to what they do on TV where they put the adds in the broadcast, no need to use Youtube's actual advertising platform.

Not sure what they'd do as far as presenters etc goes.

It's not quite the same as Netflix (Youtube Red is a bit more like Netflix). Youtube TV is promoting DVR rather than on demand, so seems like when you sign up you can't just search for episodes of a TV show and watch them instead shows are broadcast live and you DVR them so only episodes from when you sign up are viewable and recordable. With the recordings being available for as long as you keep the service and with unlimited DVR space. So not really an on demand service (though possible depending on the content providers deal with Youtube I assume) but does seem good for sports, news etc. which many of the channels on youtube tv are. 

The bundesliga had one season available on youtube in NZ (15/16 season), they had a few games live a weekend plus all games on demand, extended highlights and magazine shows. Was pretty good, just not advertised at all. Still have access to the content, all 530 videos.
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Well I work for Netflix and we're planning a $500 million bid for exclusive streaming rights for all Hyundai A-League regular season and finals series games with plans to onsell games to FTA and Fox Sports, all contingent on Stephen Lowy and David Gallop resigning from their positions along with the rest of the FFA board. We are also planning a hostile takeover of AFL, NRL and BBL to ensure there is no competition that would threatened the A-League's growth. You're gonna fail.

Now if you excuse me, I'm off to bareback Jennifer Lawrence.


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soil - 25 May 2017 1:12 PM
WSF - 25 May 2017 1:07 PM

What's my relationship with Kumi got to do with any of this? 

lol You wish m8
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MarkfromCroydon - 25 May 2017 1:20 PM
The Argentinian Primera Division has been shown for about the last 4-5 years (until recently) by the national government on it's internet site Futbol para todos, which also has a youtube channel. Until recently you could watch most matches live simply by logging on to youtube and going to Futbol para todos. There was a crisis earlier this season when recently elected Mauricio Macri (president of Argentina, and also ex president of Boca Juniors, I know! What a country where the president of a football club can become the president of the nation!), terminated the contract. You can still watch the Argentine league on Youtube - there are some other youtube posters that broadcast matches, or you can watch matches on the websites of the t.v channels that broadcast it live.

For those interested, I highly recommend the Primera. It is absolutely addictive. Great quality matches, great atmosphere in lots of them, and its ridiculously unbelievable how many 90 plus minute goals there are to win matches, it seems to be much, much more than other leagues. If you're a Victory fan, why not support Velez? They are basically an inverse kit of Victory (ie White with Blue V home-Blue with white V away).
If you like the whole cultural aspect of football- the primera is absolutely magnificent with lots of history and rivalries outside the superclassico and great emotion. It's also fun to learn spanish. Anyway-its still on youtube, sorry for getting carried away.

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