|
Midfielder
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 4.7K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+xThis is great for the game. Channel Tens more youthfull audience is just the market for the game. agree Disagree. Worst market to target. No loyalty. Short attention span. Fickle. Replica Euro club shirt wearers. Why do you think 10 is going broke? 10 not going broke see a post of mine above.
|
|
|
|
|
|
nomates
|
|
Group: Banned Members
Posts: 5.5K,
Visits: 0
|
I wouldn't be surprised if network TEN are only paying $150k a year, if that for all the rights since they are broke.
Wellington Phoenix FC
|
|
|
|
|
aussie pride
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.1K,
Visits: 0
|
Good post Walnuts ^^^^
|
|
|
|
|
crimsoncrusoe
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.9K,
Visits: 0
|
Nice that 10 have the FTA rights,but FFA are the biggest lame duck i have seen in a while.They have succesfully driven down the value of the HAL on FTA.They are getting less for the best game of the week compared to the third best game on Fri night.They have not negotiated anything.They have been bent over a barrel and Foxsports have shown them who is boss.
What about all the FFA bs about waiting until the new year for cricket rights to be sorted before doing a FTA deal?Obviously more lies.
I wouldn't be surprised if Foxsports onsell the sat game to 10 at a nice profit.
Next Foxtel will dictate when expansion occurs..
The game is being run by Foxsports.
|
|
|
|
nomates
|
|
Group: Banned Members
Posts: 5.5K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+xOk so Ten network is paying $250k for the A-League, $30k less then what SKY TV NZ pay. How do those metrics work. Because rejecting Ten is a huge opportunity cost in terms of potential future investment and growth. There is no growth in NZ. $250k is pretty much the ceiling. Time to cut you loose. $250k to $270k is better then $150k, SKY TV over pays for the A-League rights anyway and this proves it.
Wellington Phoenix FC
|
|
|
|
|
hames_jetfield
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.4K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+xOk so Ten network is paying $250k for the A-League, $30k less then what SKY TV NZ pay. How do those metrics work. Because rejecting Ten is a huge opportunity cost in terms of potential future investment and growth. There is no growth in NZ. $250k is pretty much the ceiling. Time to cut you loose. $250k to $270k is better then $150k, SKY TV over pays for the A-League rights anyway and this proves it. You understand what potential and opportunity cost is?
|
|
|
|
|
Volrath2002
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 903,
Visits: 0
|
oh the joy...SD for 2 years and adverts...i'll pass on that. I'll stick to the W-League. the biggest issue with this deal is that the national team will be only on SD with no prospect of HD coverage in the near future.
Canberra United - Member
KSV Hessen Kassel - Supporter
Lewes FC - Owner
|
|
|
|
|
Red_or_Dead
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1K,
Visits: 0
|
So what I gathered from reading all the posts:
TEN buys A-League rights for the next two years to broadcast on ONE.
News.com will buy TEN
Sky TV paid too much for A-League rights
FoxSports will dictate where the next two A-League clubs are located
After these two years the Hyundai A-League is re-branded as News.com A-League (ok, this last one I added in).
|
|
|
|
|
Razor Ramon
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 884,
Visits: 0
|
+xWho gets it when 10 goes bust ? Stupid question... 10 wont go bust as the same people that partly own 10 also partly own foxtel
|
|
|
|
|
Razor Ramon
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 884,
Visits: 0
|
the Question is.... Will Chanel 10/One hd do better coverage than ABC2? lol
|
|
|
|
nomates
|
|
Group: Banned Members
Posts: 5.5K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+x+xOk so Ten network is paying $250k for the A-League, $30k less then what SKY TV NZ pay. How do those metrics work. Because rejecting Ten is a huge opportunity cost in terms of potential future investment and growth. There is no growth in NZ. $250k is pretty much the ceiling. Time to cut you loose. $250k to $270k is better then $150k, SKY TV over pays for the A-League rights anyway and this proves it. You understand what potential and opportunity cost is? Yes I know what your saying, However the way the FFA went on about the FTA rights as if they were a golden carrot and before then publicly wanting more money from SKY TV to met metrics is a joke. How can they expect more money from SKY TV when no one was lining up to even get the on sell rights from FOX, not even the ABC.
Wellington Phoenix FC
|
|
|
|
|
bohemia
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 8.3K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+x+x+xOk so Ten network is paying $250k for the A-League, $30k less then what SKY TV NZ pay. How do those metrics work. Because rejecting Ten is a huge opportunity cost in terms of potential future investment and growth. There is no growth in NZ. $250k is pretty much the ceiling. Time to cut you loose. $250k to $270k is better then $150k, SKY TV over pays for the A-League rights anyway and this proves it. You understand what potential and opportunity cost is? Yes I know what your saying, However the way the FFA went on about the FTA rights as if they were a golden carrot and before then publicly wanting more money from SKY TV to met metrics is a joke. How can they expect more money from SKY TV when no one was lining up to even get the on sell rights from FOX, not even the ABC. Because FFA runs the Aleague and they can set their demands and priorities wherever they want. The Phoenix and NZ football don't actually have a say in it, nor should they. Like it or leave.
|
|
|
|
|
aussie scott21
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+x+x@ SoilIt says it will be on a secondary channel AND streamed. Well I will guarantee you both the Melbourne and Sydney derbies will eventually get on 10. The games are too big not to. It will be interesting to see how it goes. There is a side debate to this issue- Should all clubs receive and equal share of tv moeny? Almost every match for the last 3 seasons almost every Saturday prime slot has featured SFC, MV or WSW, with SFC and MV having most. Should they receive more or less tv money? They will receive more sponsorship revenue because of it. They may suffer at the gate but I wouldnt imagine it would be by much and in fact it may help boost their numbers. Teams like CCM, NJ, PG will feature very little and WP probabaly not at all. Should they therefor receive more? I have no problem with all the clubs sharing tv money equally even if some of them wont be seen on FTA. They are all in the A-league. Here is EPL. Not really relevant but shows how they do it  I would prefer prize money at the moment. Something like 66% to Champion 22% to GF loser or 1st, if not winner and 12% to 3rd or 2nd if they didnt play in the GF.
|
|
|
|
|
bohemia
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 8.3K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+x+x+x@ SoilIt says it will be on a secondary channel AND streamed. Well I will guarantee you both the Melbourne and Sydney derbies will eventually get on 10. The games are too big not to. It will be interesting to see how it goes. There is a side debate to this issue- Should all clubs receive and equal share of tv moeny? Almost every match for the last 3 seasons almost every Saturday prime slot has featured SFC, MV or WSW, with SFC and MV having most. Should they receive more or less tv money? They will receive more sponsorship revenue because of it. They may suffer at the gate but I wouldnt imagine it would be by much and in fact it may help boost their numbers. Teams like CCM, NJ, PG will feature very little and WP probabaly not at all. Should they therefor receive more? I have no problem with all the clubs sharing tv money equally even if some of them wont be seen on FTA. They are all in the A-league. Here is EPL. Not really relevant but shows how they do it I would prefer prize money at the moment. Something like 66% to Champion 22% to GF loser or 1st, if not winner and 12% to 3rd or 2nd if they didnt play in the GF. Sliding scale ala EPL much more preferable.
|
|
|
|
|
StiflersMom
|
|
Group: Moderators
Posts: 12K,
Visits: 0
|
+x@ Bundoora Brah. Well said. No fancy press conference. No ffa press release. Not even a story on the official A league web site. Lowy/Gallop have messed this up right royally and need to go. But the outcome, on TEN, as you say is a good one. No complaints on that. It might say $2m, but the lack of money might have somethingsomething to do with their silence, embarrassing much
|
|
|
|
pippinu
|
|
Group: Banned Members
Posts: 5.7K,
Visits: 0
|
+xWhat is Ones viewing like though? Disappointed its not for the main channel It still beats being on the ABC. This is the best possible outcome - being on a main channel was always a pipedream.
|
|
|
|
pippinu
|
|
Group: Banned Members
Posts: 5.7K,
Visits: 0
|
Although this is the best possible result for the FFA, it has to be said that One rarely pokes its head into the top 20 of the Multi ratings. Here's the top 20 from last Saturday: | Rank | Description (grouped) | Channel\Market | (r) 5 City Metro | Sydney | Melbourne | Brisbane | Adelaide | Perth | | 1 | BABY JAKE-AM | ABC2 | 169,000 | 45,000 | 50,000 | 23,000 | 31,000 | 21,000 | | 2 | HOOT HOOT GO!-AM | ABC2 | 164,000 | 43,000 | 48,000 | 23,000 | 30,000 | 20,000 | | 3 | SEVEN’S AFL: SATURDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL | 7mate | 162,000 | 29,000 | 0 | 30,000 | 0 | 103,000 | | 4 | DINOSAUR TRAIN-AM | ABC2 | 159,000 | 41,000 | 41,000 | 20,000 | 33,000 | 24,000 | | 5 | THE HIVE-AM | ABC2 | 157,000 | 37,000 | 48,000 | 20,000 | 33,000 | 20,000 | | 6 | THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS -EV | 9GO! | 157,000 | 43,000 | 55,000 | 27,000 | 11,000 | 21,000 | | 7 | SHAUN THE SHEEP-EV | ABC2 | 155,000 | 26,000 | 33,000 | 45,000 | 27,000 | 24,000 | | 8 | PEPPA PIG-AM | ABC2 | 151,000 | 42,000 | 29,000 | 30,000 | 33,000 | 17,000 | | 9 | KAZOOPS!-AM | ABC2 | 148,000 | 43,000 | 33,000 | 19,000 | 34,000 | 20,000 | | 10 | SARAH & DUCK-AM | ABC2 | 142,000 | 41,000 | 30,000 | 25,000 | 31,000 | 16,000 | | 11 | CHARLIE AND LOLA-PM | ABC2 | 141,000 | 40,000 | 39,000 | 19,000 | 19,000 | 25,000 | | 12 | PLAY SCHOOL-AM | ABC2 | 140,000 | 21,000 | 49,000 | 18,000 | 31,000 | 21,000 | | 13 | SEVEN’S AFL: SATURDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL – PRE MATCH | 7mate | 137,000 | 18,000 | 0 | 28,000 | 0 | 92,000 | | 14 | M- JOHNNY ENGLISH REBORN-PM | 7flix | 135,000 | 29,000 | 52,000 | 25,000 | 9,000 | 21,000 | | 15 | PETER RABBIT-EV | ABC2 | 133,000 | 25,000 | 27,000 | 37,000 | 24,000 | 20,000 | | 16 | PEPPA PIG-PM | ABC2 | 130,000 | 32,000 | 39,000 | 22,000 | 21,000 | 16,000 | | 17 | OCTONAUTS-AM | ABC2 | 130,000 | 35,000 | 33,000 | 20,000 | 23,000 | 19,000 | | 18 | GO JETTERS-EV | ABC2 | 128,000 | 24,000 | 31,000 | 23,000 | 31,000 | 19,000 | | 19 | BEN AND HOLLY’S LITTLE KINGDOM-EV | ABC2 | 128,000 | 25,000 | 36,000 | 22,000 | 27,000 | 18,000 | | 20 | LITTLE ROY-EV | ABC2 | 124,000 | 24,000 | 28,000 | 27,000 | 27,000 | 18,000 |
|
|
|
|
pippinu
|
|
Group: Banned Members
Posts: 5.7K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x@ Bundoora Brah. Well said. No fancy press conference. No ffa press release. Not even a story on the official A league web site. Lowy/Gallop have messed this up right royally and need to go. But the outcome, on TEN, as you say is a good one. No complaints on that. It might say $2m, but the lack of money might have somethingsomething to do with their silence, embarrassing much My very strong suspicion is that that $2 mill dollar per annum figure is already included in the headline TV rights figure of $346 mill.
|
|
|
|
|
Feed_The_Brox
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 3.3K,
Visits: 0
|
have to say that I am half happy and half relieved. the most pleasing thing is that this is only a 2 year deal. dip your toe in the water with ch 10 and hopefully get some extra cash in 2 years. a 6 year deal at the current rate would have been disastrous. you would hope at the very minimum that the Melbourne and Sydney derbies would be played on the primary channel in the home markets.
|
|
|
|
|
TheSelectFew
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K,
Visits: 0
|
+xAlthough this is the best possible result for the FFA, it has to be said that One rarely pokes its head into the top 20 of the Multi ratings. Here's the top 20 from last Saturday: | Rank | Description (grouped) | Channel\Market | (r) 5 City Metro | Sydney | Melbourne | Brisbane | Adelaide | Perth | | 1 | BABY JAKE-AM | ABC2 | 169,000 | 45,000 | 50,000 | 23,000 | 31,000 | 21,000 | | 2 | HOOT HOOT GO!-AM | ABC2 | 164,000 | 43,000 | 48,000 | 23,000 | 30,000 | 20,000 | | 3 | SEVEN’S AFL: SATURDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL | 7mate | 162,000 | 29,000 | 0 | 30,000 | 0 | 103,000 | | 4 | DINOSAUR TRAIN-AM | ABC2 | 159,000 | 41,000 | 41,000 | 20,000 | 33,000 | 24,000 | | 5 | THE HIVE-AM | ABC2 | 157,000 | 37,000 | 48,000 | 20,000 | 33,000 | 20,000 | | 6 | THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS -EV | 9GO! | 157,000 | 43,000 | 55,000 | 27,000 | 11,000 | 21,000 | | 7 | SHAUN THE SHEEP-EV | ABC2 | 155,000 | 26,000 | 33,000 | 45,000 | 27,000 | 24,000 | | 8 | PEPPA PIG-AM | ABC2 | 151,000 | 42,000 | 29,000 | 30,000 | 33,000 | 17,000 | | 9 | KAZOOPS!-AM | ABC2 | 148,000 | 43,000 | 33,000 | 19,000 | 34,000 | 20,000 | | 10 | SARAH & DUCK-AM | ABC2 | 142,000 | 41,000 | 30,000 | 25,000 | 31,000 | 16,000 | | 11 | CHARLIE AND LOLA-PM | ABC2 | 141,000 | 40,000 | 39,000 | 19,000 | 19,000 | 25,000 | | 12 | PLAY SCHOOL-AM | ABC2 | 140,000 | 21,000 | 49,000 | 18,000 | 31,000 | 21,000 | | 13 | SEVEN’S AFL: SATURDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL – PRE MATCH | 7mate | 137,000 | 18,000 | 0 | 28,000 | 0 | 92,000 | | 14 | M- JOHNNY ENGLISH REBORN-PM | 7flix | 135,000 | 29,000 | 52,000 | 25,000 | 9,000 | 21,000 | | 15 | PETER RABBIT-EV | ABC2 | 133,000 | 25,000 | 27,000 | 37,000 | 24,000 | 20,000 | | 16 | PEPPA PIG-PM | ABC2 | 130,000 | 32,000 | 39,000 | 22,000 | 21,000 | 16,000 | | 17 | OCTONAUTS-AM | ABC2 | 130,000 | 35,000 | 33,000 | 20,000 | 23,000 | 19,000 | | 18 | GO JETTERS-EV | ABC2 | 128,000 | 24,000 | 31,000 | 23,000 | 31,000 | 19,000 | | 19 | BEN AND HOLLY’S LITTLE KINGDOM-EV | ABC2 | 128,000 | 25,000 | 36,000 | 22,000 | 27,000 | 18,000 | | 20 | LITTLE ROY-EV | ABC2 | 124,000 | 24,000 | 28,000 | 27,000 | 27,000 | 18,000 | Bye. Feel free to fuck off with your ALF wank. Bye.
|
|
|
|
|
Escobar Caesar
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 351,
Visits: 0
|
Wonder who will feature in the commentray team if it's definitely confirmed that Ch 10 have the rights ?
|
|
|
|
|
walnuts
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 10K,
Visits: 0
|
+xWonder who will feature in the commentray team if it's definitely confirmed that Ch 10 have the rights ? Said in the article it's just going to be the Fox coverage, so being the Saturday night game it'll most likely be Simon Hill and Andy Harper/Robbie Slater which is a win imo.
|
|
|
|
pippinu
|
|
Group: Banned Members
Posts: 5.7K,
Visits: 0
|
|
|
|
|
|
paulbagzFC
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 44K,
Visits: 0
|
Hopefully Ten can take on some other football content as well like they did when OneHD originally launched. -PB
|
|
|
|
jlm8695
|
|
Group: Banned Members
Posts: 19K,
Visits: 0
|
@Paulbag
Remember watching the Bundesliga and Serie A on one s loooing time ago.
I think like Walnuts said this is possibly the best thing we could have hoped for besides the financials.
|
|
|
|
|
Virtuoso
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 75,
Visits: 0
|
Doesnt evencover gallops obsene salary package. Why not get rid of him and reinvest the funds back into football or div 2 ?
|
|
|
|
|
paulbagzFC
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 44K,
Visits: 0
|
+x@PaulbagRemember watching the Bundesliga and Serie A on one s loooing time ago.I think like Walnuts said this is possibly the best thing we could have hoped for besides the financials. Yep, when they first launched that's how I watched both of those leagues. Would be totally ok if they went after the other rights that SBS has atm lol -PB
|
|
|
|
|
Escobar Caesar
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 351,
Visits: 0
|
+x+xWonder who will feature in the commentray team if it's definitely confirmed that Ch 10 have the rights ? Said in the article it's just going to be the Fox coverage, so being the Saturday night game it'll most likely be Simon Hill and Andy Harper/Robbie Slater which is a win imo. Awesome news, Beats BAsheer anyday, although i will give credit to Mark Bridge , he does at least have a bit of personality in his commentary
|
|
|
|
|
T1m
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 135,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+x+x+xOk so Ten network is paying $250k for the A-League, $30k less then what SKY TV NZ pay. How do those metrics work. Because rejecting Ten is a huge opportunity cost in terms of potential future investment and growth. There is no growth in NZ. $250k is pretty much the ceiling. Time to cut you loose. $250k to $270k is better then $150k, SKY TV over pays for the A-League rights anyway and this proves it. You understand what potential and opportunity cost is? Yes I know what your saying, However the way the FFA went on about the FTA rights as if they were a golden carrot and before then publicly wanting more money from SKY TV to met metrics is a joke. How can they expect more money from SKY TV when no one was lining up to even get the on sell rights from FOX, not even the ABC. Doesn't SKY pay for 5 games a week?
|
|
|
|
Dial It In
|
|
Group: Banned Members
Posts: 213,
Visits: 0
|
So what is the final per year media rights total for all A-League & Socceroos?
|
|
|
|