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+x+x+xThere is constant anti FFA shit that goes onYet the game has become mainstream - something that could never occur 20 years agoThe Sydney and Melbourne derbys, the quality of the imports - there. Are so many positives and yet it's all doom and gloom... Didn't you know you had to have permission from some here to express an opinion that's different to theirs? This is sad, even for you I'm far from sad bro!
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melbourne_terrace
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+x+xThere is constant anti FFA shit that goes onYet the game has become mainstream - something that could never occur 20 years agoThe Sydney and Melbourne derbys, the quality of the imports - there. Are so many positives and yet it's all doom and gloom... Didn't you know you had to have permission from some here to express an opinion that's different to theirs? This is sad, even for you
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paulc
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+xThere is constant anti FFA shit that goes onYet the game has become mainstream - something that could never occur 20 years agoThe Sydney and Melbourne derbys, the quality of the imports - there. Are so many positives and yet it's all doom and gloom... Didn't you know you had to have permission from some here to express an opinion that's different to theirs?
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TheSelectFew
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+xIt's not racism at allI have followed the beautiful game of football in Australia through the state leagues, NSL, A-League and NPL having watched 100s of matches with Greeks, Italians , Croatians and other nationalitiesI myself am of European parentage I bet you have black friends too.
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Mate you need to head down to your local anti Immigration rally :Whistling:
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Roberts1
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There is constant anti FFA shit that goes on Yet the game has become mainstream - something that could never occur 20 years ago
The Sydney and Melbourne derbys, the quality of the imports - there. Are so many positives and yet it's all doom and gloom...
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Roberts1
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The difference between me and the Hellas bitters on this forum is that I can accept my ex-NSL team isn't A-League material whilst the Greek bitters - and their a few of them go on and on about P&R, a 2nd div - items that just suit them
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Roberts1
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It's not racism at all I have followed the beautiful game of football in Australia through the state leagues, NSL, A-League and NPL having watched 100s of matches with Greeks, Italians , Croatians and other nationalities I myself am of European parentage
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aufc_ole
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+xDid a Greek girl turn you down to the big dance? Your relentless pursuit of one club and one ethnic group can't be explained in any rational way. You are nothing but a racist hiding behind football. Either that or he was bullied by wogs at school
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bohemia
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+x+x+xBluebirdWe live in Australia and salary caps are part of the norm in our sporting codes "That's how we do it here." What is it with Aussies thinking they know and do everything better than everyone else? Even dumb shit like the retardely simple concept of having friends - Aussies wrap it up in some superior 'Aussie mateship' bollocks as if nobody around the world can grasp the simple idea of having a friend In Europe there's one thing clear to me about all the cultures I've mingled with - Czechs, Spaniards, Portuguese, Poles, Palestinians, Austrians, Germans, Indians. All of them have their unique ways of being a caring mofo. To the extent that half of them would just off themselves on the spot if someone suggested they failed in showing hospitality. Maybe it sounds like a joke. One of our friends was told off by her mother for not showing enough hospitality to guests and we literally had to climb up on the roof and fetch her. I was living with my mrs and a Spaniard and Saturday morning was running the gauntlet because there was always some total random we never met sleeping on the couch haha. Had a refugee mate mad blue with his partner and he ended up sleeping on that couch for freaking 10 weeks. Beats me why people even lock their doors around here. Nobody pats themselves on the back and say it's all because it is this iconic feature of their culture that puts them above everyone else. They just do it because it's plain ordinary human shit.
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bluebird
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]I wonder who the roadblock to expansion really is?To me Fox is the blocker, FFA just get the blame. Pretty obvious it's FFA for forcing a model that doesn't work 13,000 average attendance and holding strong despite little publicity or exposure.................is not a model that is broken given the continuing interest. Perhaps a model that has reached its limitation but not broken. If the purpose of the A League was to deliver average attendances then you might be right Good average attendance is a result of success in winning over our multicultural football loving family. Purpose achieved. Increase media exposure and greater investment. Purpose achieved. Increase rate of participation like never before. Purpose achieved. Provide a fully professional pathway for players. Purpose achieved. Generate sufficient income to fund all the notational teams. Purpose achieved. Etc, etc.............Purpose achieved. Good average attendance is a result of success in winning over our multicultural football loving family. Purpose achieved. Increase media exposure and greater investment. Purpose achieved. Increase rate of participation like never before. Purpose achieved. Provide a fully professional pathway for players. Purpose achieved. Generate sufficient income to fund all the notational teams. Purpose achieved. Etc, etc.............Purpose achieved. The attendances have not shifted from what the A League was achieving when it kicked off 12 years ago WTF? 2005/06 season: Average crowd over 90 matches:11,627. Total for the season: 1,046,468. 2016/17 season: Average crowd over 140 matches: 12,683. Total for the season: 1,777,652. http://www.aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_1CrowdStats.htmlI'm not sure how you can say that the attendances have not shifted. Comparing 2016/17 to 2005/06, there are more matches, a higher average number of attendees per match, and nearly twice as many people in total attending matches. Cool. Thanks for arguing against the literal definition of what I said instead of the intended meaning If you were right then you'd be able to slam my argument without having to resort to underhanded tactics
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bluebird
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+xBluebirdWe live in Australia and salary caps are part of the norm in our sporting codesWith Adelaide you have given a poor example - the players wanted to move on What a load of rubbish There are thousands of sports competitions in dozens of sports being played every week right across Australia. Barely a handful of them have salary caps
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bohemia
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Did a Greek girl turn you down to the big dance? Your relentless pursuit of one club and one ethnic group can't be explained in any rational way. You are nothing but a racist hiding behind football.
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+x+xHappy to clear that upIf the FFA get replaced -- there is no way in the world the new committee will ever have HELLAS in Anyone with any business sense will not want this rubbish in our league Forgot to take your pills today paul I dunno, standard attempt to derail the actual thread topic
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aufc_ole
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+xHappy to clear that upIf the FFA get replaced -- there is no way in the world the new committee will ever have HELLAS in Anyone with any business sense will not want this rubbish in our league Forgot to take your pills today paul
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Pyramid Timmy
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+x If the FFA get replaced -- there is no way in the world the new committee will ever have HELLAS in
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Pyramid Timmy
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+xIf the FFA get replaced -- there is no way in the world the new committee will ever have HELLAS in Anyone with any business sense will not want this rubbish in our league
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Roberts1
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Happy to clear that up If the FFA get replaced -- there is no way in the world the new committee will ever have HELLAS in Anyone with any business sense will not want this rubbish in our league
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+x"The FFA have their TV money "They sure have - because HELLAS are no longer thereThe last time they were--No TV moneyNo games being shown No sponsor for the leagueHellas are never coming to the A-League just ask the FFA Thanks for clearing that up
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+x+x+xBluebirdWe live in Australia and salary caps are part of the norm in our sporting codes "That's how we do it here." What is it with Aussies thinking they know and do everything better than everyone else? Even dumb shit like the retardely simple concept of having friends - Aussies wrap it up in some superior 'Aussie mateship' bollocks as if nobody around the world can grasp the simple idea of having a friend It's like talking to people about how we play our national team football. "we're Australia and we're gonna go out there attacking all guns blazing, never say die, don't die wondering, thats the Aussie spirit, it's un-Australian to play more conservatively" blah blah blah just fuck off.
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Roberts1
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"The FFA have their TV money "
They sure have - because HELLAS are no longer there
The last time they were-- No TV money No games being shown No sponsor for the league
Hellas are never coming to the A-League just ask the FFA
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+x+xBluebirdWe live in Australia and salary caps are part of the norm in our sporting codes "That's how we do it here." What is it with Aussies thinking they know and do everything better than everyone else? Even dumb shit like the retardely simple concept of having friends - Aussies wrap it up in some superior 'Aussie mateship' bollocks as if nobody around the world can grasp the simple idea of having a friend
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+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]I wonder who the roadblock to expansion really is?To me Fox is the blocker, FFA just get the blame. Pretty obvious it's FFA for forcing a model that doesn't work 13,000 average attendance and holding strong despite little publicity or exposure.................is not a model that is broken given the continuing interest. Perhaps a model that has reached its limitation but not broken. If the purpose of the A League was to deliver average attendances then you might be right Good average attendance is a result of success in winning over our multicultural football loving family. Purpose achieved. Increase media exposure and greater investment. Purpose achieved. Increase rate of participation like never before. Purpose achieved. Provide a fully professional pathway for players. Purpose achieved. Generate sufficient income to fund all the notational teams. Purpose achieved. Etc, etc.............Purpose achieved. Good average attendance is a result of success in winning over our multicultural football loving family. Purpose achieved. Increase media exposure and greater investment. Purpose achieved. Increase rate of participation like never before. Purpose achieved. Provide a fully professional pathway for players. Purpose achieved. Generate sufficient income to fund all the notational teams. Purpose achieved. Etc, etc.............Purpose achieved. The attendances have not shifted from what the A League was achieving when it kicked off 12 years ago WTF? 2005/06 season: Average crowd over 90 matches:11,627. Total for the season: 1,046,468. 2016/17 season: Average crowd over 140 matches: 12,683. Total for the season: 1,777,652. http://www.aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_1CrowdStats.htmlI'm not sure how you can say that the attendances have not shifted. Comparing 2016/17 to 2005/06, there are more matches, a higher average number of attendees per match, and nearly twice as many people in total attending matches.
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petszk
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+x+x+x+xI wonder who the roadblock to expansion really is?To me Fox is the blocker, FFA just get the blame. Pretty obvious it's FFA for forcing a model that doesn't work 13,000 average attendance and holding strong despite little publicity or exposure.................is not a model that is broken given the continuing interest. Perhaps a model that has reached its limitation but not broken. Another one of those paulc "facts" Meanwhile on Earth Number of aleague seasons that averaged attendances of over 13k 2 - 07/08 and 13/14 Actual number of A-League seasons that averaged attendances of over 13k; 2006/07 (14,036) 2007/08 (15,348) 2013/14 (13,488) 2014/15 (13,038)
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+x+x+xBluebirdWe live in Australia and salary caps are part of the norm in our sporting codes "That's how we do it here." #kulcha #UniqueMilieu
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+xHellas is the broken modelThey are the disease that was the NSL which held our beautiful game back for so many yearsThey are gone and football is thriving If any clubs model is found wanting it will surface in a pro/rel environment. The sooner clubs like South Melbourne enter the A-league the sooner they can go about implementing all the changes they need to make in order to be successful. If they don't they will quickly be relegated by some club who will do it better. The best thing that can happen is to add more teams and have pro/rel because it will instantly create a competitive environment where you have to do things right in order to survive. If clubs don't adapt they will be found out and we can move away from the NSL and the ethnic debate once and for all.
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+x+xBluebirdWe live in Australia and salary caps are part of the norm in our sporting codes "That's how we do it here." #kulcha
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+xThe fast approaching A-League season seems to be overcome with a lack of hype. Apathy if you will, is this a sign of a general malaise affecting the league....or are we merely waiting for clean air post Footy season? FFA have the TV money, so why bother ? They've got 1 or 2 Olympic stadiums to fill for some quick cash over the next few weeks, that's priority
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