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Go here for the details - http://www.thechampionship.com.au/Some of the more interesting things for me: Our proposal is to introduce a national second tier men’s and women’s competition from 2019 to be known as ‘The Championship’ The Championship will be established as a separate legal entity from FFA, the member federations and the AAFC. The budget for the administration of The Championship, including payments to state federations for referees and judiciary services, will be sourced from sponsorship and license fees without any requirement for funding from FFA, the A-League, state federations or NPL clubs. The Championship is a 12-16 club competition for both men and women to be aligned with the A-League season, commencing in October 2019. Expansion to 20 teams is envisaged over five seasons by 2024. Clubs may also continue to participate in the winter state-based NPL competitions. We will apply to the Asian Football Confederation for the winner of The Championship to be granted a place in the Asian Champions League. - boutique stadium with minimum capacity of 3,000
- capacity to field a men’s and women’s team
- head coaches of both the men’s and women’s teams to hold at least an A-License
- Board, management and staff structure in place with adequate resources
- 5-year strategic plan and annual business plan
- capacity to meet an annual budget of $2.5 million, including an annual license fee of $150,000
- established relationship with NPL feeder clubs.
- salary cap of $1 million initially across the two squads (men and women)
- maximum squad size of 20 players for men and women
- at least 50% of the squad must be 25 years or younger
- maximum of 2 visa players, drawn only from the AFC or the Oceania Football Confederation with an exception for players who have residency status as a refugee
- maximum of 3 players who have played A-League or W-League in the previous two seasons
- incentives to promote the inclusion of youth players contracted to A-League clubs.
AAFC has commenced discussions with broadcasters and is well-advanced in finalising a new and unique broadcasting model. AAFC has also commenced discussions with potential sponsors. The aim of sponsorship of The Championship is to cover the cost of travel and accommodation for the competitions, as well as contribute to additional marketing expenditure. Our intention is to discuss promotion/relegation further with the A-League clubs and FFA with a view to implementation of full promotion and relegation by 2024. In terms of the state-based NPL competition, we intend discussing the integration of promotion and relegation from the NPL to The Championship, and subject to meeting the criteria, with the state-based member federations also with a view to implementation by 2024. ____________________________________________________________________________ TPO Rankings - the FIFA World Rankings for Australian football clubs 
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nomates
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+xAAFC also intends seeking agreement from the AFC for the winner of The Championship to be granted a place in the Asian Champions League.LMFAO. Surely they mean the AFC Cup? Agree what shit are they talking?.
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Benjamin
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+x+xAAFC also intends seeking agreement from the AFC for the winner of The Championship to be granted a place in the Asian Champions League.LMFAO. Surely they mean the AFC Cup? Agree what shit are they talking?. In any negotiation you start high and work back down to reality.
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A maximum of 3 players who have played A-League in the previous two seasons. Surely that's defeating the point of this? We're supposed to be consolidating the best talent outside of the A-League, some players need to drop down to make that happen. Also the AFC bit is laughable but happy there is at least some progress.
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+x+x+xAAFC also intends seeking agreement from the AFC for the winner of The Championship to be granted a place in the Asian Champions League.LMFAO. Surely they mean the AFC Cup? Agree what shit are they talking?. In any negotiation you start high and work back down to reality. Agree. You don't start with a figure that sends people into hysterics though. When negotiating my next payrise, i'm not going to request $1 million a year
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Holding Bidfielder
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I'm glad they've got the rule that 50% of the squad must be 25 or younger. My biggest gripe with the A-League is how many older peaked players are kept on the books of the A-League squads just because they've proven to be an "okay" player, even if they're pushing past 35 (Reddy, Galekovic, etc.) or have been at more than three different clubs throughout their A-League career.
Now if we could get a loan system so that these second division clubs could take some of the good young talent that is currently attached to A-League clubs then we would be making a huge step forward!
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aussie pride
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TIMELINE FOR IMPLEMENTATION| November to February | Stakeholder Consultation | | 1 December 2017 | AAFC calls for expression of interest from clubs interest in participation in The Championship | | 2 February 2018 | Expressions of interest close | | 2 March 2018 | FFA endorsement required | | 29 March 2018 | The Championship Bid document made available on payment of $10,000 fee | | 25 May 2018 | Bids close | | May to July 2018 | Bids assessed by Nous Group | | August 2018 | Nous Group report to AAFC Board | | September 2018 | Successful bidders notified | | October 2018 | Licenses issued | | October 2019 | Start of The Championship |
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+xA maximum of 3 players who have played A-League in the previous two seasons. Surely that's defeating the point of this? We're supposed to be consolidating the best talent outside of the A-League, some players need to drop down to make that happen. Also the AFC bit is laughable but happy there is at least some progress. Seems counter intuitive to this no? -Incentives to promote the inclusion of youth players contracted to A-League clubs.
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nomates
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maximum of 2 visa players, drawn only from the AFC or the Oceania Football Confederation with an exception for players who have residency status as a refugee What about clubs from New Zealand entering the comp? How will this work for them>?.
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Benjamin
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+x+x+x+xAAFC also intends seeking agreement from the AFC for the winner of The Championship to be granted a place in the Asian Champions League.LMFAO. Surely they mean the AFC Cup? Agree what shit are they talking?. In any negotiation you start high and work back down to reality. Agree. You don't start with a figure that sends people into hysterics though. When negotiating my next payrise, i'm not going to request $1 million a year Based on the people pushing this - I would strongly suspect that they are already in contact with the AFC, so they won't be saying anything that will offend them.
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Benjamin
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+xA maximum of 3 players who have played A-League in the previous two seasons. Surely that's defeating the point of this? We're supposed to be consolidating the best talent outside of the A-League, some players need to drop down to make that happen. Also the AFC bit is laughable but happy there is at least some progress. If there's 10 teams that's space for up to 30 players who have been released from the A-League each season. How many lads who've actually played A-League are released each season and not picked up by a rival A-League side?
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I sincerely hope this is just an 'opening bid' from the organisation and not hard and fast conditions. Their squad rules are needlessly draconian, and as MT said, it actually freezes out players who are on the cusp of the A-League but need more development at a lower level.
I also despise the age requirement for the squad - we need to learn the lessons from Cricket Australia, who currently have State sides picking players based on age (being young) and who 'have potential', rather than picking based on form. This has led to the most insipid and weak Australian side in a long time.
Stop trying to play this like a video game and just let the cream of the crop rise through naturally. If we get a second division up and running alongside the A-League, and each team only has one U23 player in their starting XI, that is still ~25 players for a national youth side competing at a professional level. It's not about gifting spots to young players, it's about increasing the pool of spots available for the best young players to take. An age requirement on the cap will just have clubs seeking to sign players for non-football reasons.
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+xAAFC also intends seeking agreement from the AFC for the winner of The Championship to be granted a place in the Asian Champions League.LMFAO. Surely they mean the AFC Cup? Even then that's ridiculous. Everything else makes me happy.
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The Fans
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oh my god there is so much I hate about this.
Like the annual budget of 2.5mil,
The minimum stadium of 3k.
Womens team...why?
Max of 3 former a-league players? are you f--king kidding me. what? why?
The worst thing is the roster has to have half the players under 25. That is just f-king retarded.
Why are they making so many retarded regulations? I know we live in a nanny state but let the clubs sort out what direction they want to go, why are they trying to dictate? seems preposterous that this is actually the association of clubs taking this approach.
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+x+xA maximum of 3 players who have played A-League in the previous two seasons. Surely that's defeating the point of this? We're supposed to be consolidating the best talent outside of the A-League, some players need to drop down to make that happen. Also the AFC bit is laughable but happy there is at least some progress. If there's 10 teams that's space for up to 30 players who have been released from the A-League each season. How many lads who've actually played A-League are released each season and not picked up by a rival A-League side? This was the Free Agents list from the awesome Contracts Thread, before I got rid of that part of it: Bai Antoniou
Tomislav Arcaba
Manuel Arana (V)
Jackson Bandiera
Alastair Bray
Andy Brennan
Marcelo Carrusca
Shannon Cole
Mitch Cooper
Cameron Crestani
Milos Dimitrijevic (V)
Jacques Faty (V)
Fabio Ferreira
Mathew Fletcher
Ryan Griffiths
George Howard
Lewis Italiano
Joe Katebian
Nathan Konstandopoulos
Steve Kuzmanovski
Ma Leilei (V)
Rashid Mahazi
Jesse Makarounas
Nebosja Marinkovic (V)
Brad McDonald
George Mells
Ivan Necevski
Michael Neill
Morten Nordstrand (V)
Radovan Pavicevic
Bruno Pinatares (V)
Mateo Poljak (V)
Milan Smiljanic (V)
Lucas Spinella
Mickael Tavares (V)
Jordan Thurtell
George Timotheou
Jacob Tratt
Riley Woodcock
Liam Youlley
Stefan Zinni
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+x+x+x+x+xAAFC also intends seeking agreement from the AFC for the winner of The Championship to be granted a place in the Asian Champions League.LMFAO. Surely they mean the AFC Cup? Agree what shit are they talking?. In any negotiation you start high and work back down to reality. Agree. You don't start with a figure that sends people into hysterics though. When negotiating my next payrise, i'm not going to request $1 million a year Based on the people pushing this - I would strongly suspect that they are already in contact with the AFC, so they won't be saying anything that will offend them. Fair call - i'm open to being wrong.
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The Fans
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+x+xA maximum of 3 players who have played A-League in the previous two seasons. Surely that's defeating the point of this? We're supposed to be consolidating the best talent outside of the A-League, some players need to drop down to make that happen. Also the AFC bit is laughable but happy there is at least some progress. If there's 10 teams that's space for up to 30 players who have been released from the A-League each season. How many lads who've actually played A-League are released each season and not picked up by a rival A-League side? Heaps. There are plenty of clubs that have mutliple former a-league players NOW when there are what, over 70 NPL teams? What even is this about, why in the world should playing in the a-league makes you less eligable for the 2nd divsion? My mind is blown at how dumb all of this is.
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aussie pride
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Don't see the issue with the 25 yr old rule.
On average 25 is almost the middle of a players career.
So you have a squad of guys under 25 and half over, no big deal.
I'd rather 23 Year olds get a second chance compared to a 30 yr old journeymen.
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+xDon't see the issue with the 25 yr old rule.On average 25 is almost the middle of a players career.So you have a squad of guys under 25 and half over, no big deal.I'd rather 23 Year olds get a second chance compared to a 30 yr old journeymen. You'd rather a 23 years gets a chance for 2 years then gets the sack because he hit 25. So retarded.
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The goal (by the AAFC) is that in five years time the second division would have promotion / relegation to the A-League. Would all the rules about player's eligibility be removed by then too?? Otherwise relegated teams would struggle to field a team, and promoted teams would have to invest heavily in players to make the step up.
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So now that we have a better idea of the second division, which clubs does everyone think are likely to participate given what we know?
So far:
> South Melbourne
> Wollongong Wolves
> Brisbane Strikers
> APIA Leichhardt
> Heidelberg United
> Gold Coast City
> Adelaide City
Who else?
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sokorny
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So would Lakeside Stadium fit the definition of a boutique stadium?? I would imagine the running track around it might discount it as boutique.
Be interesting to see what they define as boutique. How big does the capacity have to become for it to no longer be boutique??
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+xThe goal (by the AAFC) is that in five years time the second division would have promotion / relegation to the A-League. Would all the rules about player's eligibility be removed by then too?? Otherwise relegated teams would struggle to field a team, and promoted teams would have to invest heavily in players to make the step up. This exactly. With all the regulations it makes it almost impossible for promotion and relegation.
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+xThe goal (by the AAFC) is that in five years time the second division would have promotion / relegation to the A-League. Would all the rules about player's eligibility be removed by then too?? Otherwise relegated teams would struggle to field a team, and promoted teams would have to invest heavily in players to make the step up. I want to know if the a-league will adopt similar restrictions. Max of 3 players that have ever played 2nd division.
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+xSo now that we have a better idea of the second division, which clubs does everyone think are likely to participate given what we know? So far: > South Melbourne > Wollongong Wolves > Brisbane Strikers > APIA Leichhardt > Heidelberg United > Gold Coast City > Adelaide City Who else? Would Gold Coast have a boutique stadium?? Is Robina Stadium boutique?? Almost the same capacity as AAMI Park (and we see how empty that looks with City fans).
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Hmmmm at least there's a start on the conversation but there are a few things I'm not a fan of
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I am not a fan of what they are trying to do. We need to have less regulations not more. This second division will lend itself to be full of young players anyway, but if a club doesn't want to go in that direction they shouldn't be forced to.
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+xI am not a fan of what they are trying to do. We need to have less regulations not more. This second division will lend itself to be full of young players anyway, but if a club doesn't want to go in that direction they shouldn't be forced to. The long list of regulations etc is why I commented on another thread that I don't see this as the blueprint for a second division but rather for a national semi-professional competition. In my view this is for the third tier from which some might get elevated to the top tier in the short term but in the medium term the best of these clubs will vie for elevation to a fully professional second tier competition.
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TIMELINE FOR IMPLEMENTATION| November to February | Stakeholder Consultation | | 1 December 2017 | AAFC calls for expression of interest from clubs interest in participation in The Championship | | 2 February 2018 | Expressions of interest close | | 2 March 2018 | FFA endorsement required | | 29 March 2018 | The Championship Bid document made available on payment of $10,000 fee | | 25 May 2018 | Bids close | | May to July 2018 | Bids assessed by Nous Group | | August 2018 | Nous Group report to AAFC Board | | September 2018 | Successful bidders notified | | October 2018 | Licenses issued | | October 2019 | Start of The Championship |
[/quote] There's the BIG stumbling bock.
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The Fans
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+x+xI am not a fan of what they are trying to do. We need to have less regulations not more. This second division will lend itself to be full of young players anyway, but if a club doesn't want to go in that direction they shouldn't be forced to. The long list of regulations etc is why I commented on another thread that I don't see this as the blueprint for a second division but rather for a national semi-professional competition. In my view this is for the third tier from which some might get elevated to the top tier in the short term but in the medium term the best of these clubs will vie for elevation to a fully professional second tier competition. That makes exactly no sense gyfox. more regulations = higher barriers for entry. much harder for a semi-professional club to compete in this f-kup of a 2nd division. what semi-pro team can afford to double costs on a womens team for no added revenue?
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