I don't have to. I refer you to the number of Soccazoos they have produced and continue produce.

BUT ZOMG DA EFFNIKAZ!!!!!!

lol get off the piss.

Link? I can't find the page online.

https://www.facebook.com/Southwestsydneyfc/

No it's about clubs improving what was better than the NSL. Are these NSL clubs still our best option, you tell me. It should be easy, they are corner shop clubs right.

Including South Hobart!!

Well no it isn't.

It's about providing a platform for Clubs to grow the game and establish a stronger Football Culture and footprint.
Its about providing a National platform for players to be scouted at a higher level so that we break the monopoly of players who have had more clubs than Greg Norman.
Just for starters.

Thats a really bad idea mark. Players who play in the NPL don't get a minimum salary. Some don't even get a salary, just win bonuses. The 2nd division and the 3rd divsion etc need to be made as financially viable as possible, and that means allowing clubs to handle their own finances including player payments. No point paying every one 50k then going bankrupt after a year. 

There is a continuum, obviously being full time is the ideal. But being part time is better than being amateur.

Also a club deserves to be in 2nd division if they qualify for second division. If an amateur team manages to qualify on merit over a full time team then they should be the ones in the 2nd division. 

If we have the NSL as our second division i'd say it'd be a massive success. 

One thing I don't think I've seen mentioned and perhaps over looked is the fact that most of these players will have the potential to play 'The Championship' over summer and then go back to the NPL during winter. Putting the two wages together would essentially bring these players into full time football, or atleast a minumum salary from playing football.

That's pretty much how the W-League players can be classed as full time/professional even though the W-League is only a few months long.

Its actually the right idea. We want professional players. There should be a minimum salary and if a club wants to pay players more they should be allowed to, it should be the same in the A-league. A salary cap is the worst thing ever to happen in football. 

Won't the players still be playing when the NPL starts and won't the NPL be still going when this competition starts?  Its not at all ideal if they aren't with a club for preseason or they don't stay with them to the end of the finals.

Depends how long the season is I guess.

With proposed Championship clubs needing to have some form of linkage with NPL clubs I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to work out.

I thought I read somewhere that they would like a 30 week season.

12-16 teams would suggest that - plus finals.

All I'm suggesting is that it wouldn't be out of the question for a player to be signed to play for APIA in the 'Championship' and then go play for APIA for match payments in the NPL, when he/she is available, as a wage top up. An internal loan of some sorts.

Its a shame for the the name "Roar" is already taken. 

I did have in my head a Hull City kit but Navy instead of black. 

This whole backwards and forwards it stupid.

You have an agenda against SM. We get it. Preston arent even a member of AAFC, (not listed anyway) we get it. 

Ironically you talk about clubs moving on, perhaps you should move on. Here is a video that I saw via TSFs FB page. 
https://www.facebook.com/prestonlionsfc/videos/10159202698240046/

Its when your favourite son the one you mention often Sash O played for Preston. 

You'll notice that around the 12 second mark he says "ask all questions in English."

Just because some in your community, including yourself, hold onto old ideals doesnt mean you should try to bring everyone else down. Everyones backyard doesnt look the same as your. Its time to forgive SM or their fans for whatever hardship you have encountered. Its the only way you'll ever get over it. 

Cinncinatti too 

I disagree.
If we want to improve the standard of football, we need players training full-time and being professional. You need to pay them a living wage to do that. The around $50k that the A league offers is a fair and reasonable  amount.
If the NPL clubs can't afford that, they are not up to second division standard. That's why I say some should merge to get big enough to be able to be professional. At present, you have 30 odd clubs in each state, all competing against each other for the limited sponsorship, advertising, and fan dollar, all preventing each other from becoming the next club big enough to join the A league. Imagine if say (just an example), Oakleigh, Kingston and Bentleigh Greens all merged. If they kept all their sponsorship and fan base, they could probably afford to have a full time roster of 20 odd players paid at the $50k minimum. All of those players could be professional footballers training and playing full-time, and improving.

Yawn same old shit from the same old bitter detractors harping on about the NSL.

Sooner these flogs are out of the game the better, football will progress without them.

-PB

Hear hear more pathways for young kids will always be a good thing.

Alternatively - we have Oakleigh, Kingston and Bentleigh playing in the same state league at the moment, if one of them was elevated to a national competition you would most likely see them being able to increase their fan base and attract greater sponsorship - in the process they would be able to move to a more professional model, and at the same time the other two clubs would still offer pathways for players not up to the national level of the game.  There's no need to merge, there's a need to provide additional steps on the football pyramid to allow players (and clubs) to progress.

I'm not against merging clus if thats what they want to do, but it definitely isn't necessary. Especially considering many of these clubs have 50-100 years of history. (Some have now literally literally existed for most of the history of this country).

If a club gets promoted that will make it bigger and stronger and bring in more sponsorship, more players etc by virtue of being in the 2nd division. We don't need to loses clubs from the NPL.  

That's what its all about. . Right now we have steps up to NPL then a huge leap up the a-league. Professional or semi professional, a 2nd div is that step in between. 

Without pro rel second tier is another comp. 

There is no way this will get of the ground, the FFA will never sign off on this.
The clubs face costs of $0.8M - $1M salary, 70k travelling costs, 150k licencing costs.
There will be no TV rights income - look at the NBL - they pay to have their matches broadcast
When will the games be played - if in the winter they cant play at the same time as the A-League so they are confirmed to 11am, 1pm & 3pm kick offs - good luck finding a sponsor
There will never be P & R
It seems to be a large waste of time and money that will bankrupt the clubs

Somewhere down the line a 3rd division must be introduced also, IMHO.

The FFA runs the risk of not even having a say. What do you think this whole congress issue is about. Its about control of the game and the FFA is losing it.