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lol where you find one the other is always nearby

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mcjules - 21 Nov 2017 5:29 PM
Davide82 - 21 Nov 2017 10:23 AM

In a similar league to this Susie O'Brien opinion piece
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/susie-obrien/wog-has-lost-its-stigma-and-become-a-term-of-endearment/news-story/9e7c840670036075302da5dc0f8b8459?nk=73a25c67f2259bf98231b40ded631d35-1511245720

Aha amazing.
Am only skimming it as life's too short but this stood out as a good reason to trust her to be a good judge on the term being fine to use:

With their smelly sandwiches, hairy legs and moustaches (and this was a girls’ school), the wogs definitely stood out.


Forget being offended, I just don't understand why that article was even published aha
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Davide82 - 21 Nov 2017 10:23 AM
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scott21 - 20 Nov 2017 7:48 PM

It's funny how, for a word that is so freely bandied about ironically, sometimes someone can put just an extra little bit of stank on it in context to make it suddenly sound nasty.

In a similar league to this Susie O'Brien opinion piece
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/susie-obrien/wog-has-lost-its-stigma-and-become-a-term-of-endearment/news-story/9e7c840670036075302da5dc0f8b8459?nk=73a25c67f2259bf98231b40ded631d35-1511245720


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scott21 - 21 Nov 2017 5:09 PM
Davide82 - 21 Nov 2017 10:23 AM

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Just a general observation Scotty lad. No need to resort to attempted humour.

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Davide82 - 21 Nov 2017 10:23 AM
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scott21 - 20 Nov 2017 7:48 PM

It's funny how, for a word that is so freely bandied about ironically, sometimes someone can put just an extra little bit of stank on it in context to make it suddenly sound nasty.

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Does it have to be just one farewell game?   Is there enough time in the schedule for 2?
Perhaps one light game against the in-form A-League club at that time,  and one game against a decent team like Ireland.

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scott21 - 20 Nov 2017 7:48 PM
Dont want Italy.

It plays into the wog narrative that Australia is shit if they lose and dont belong there. 


It's funny how, for a word that is so freely bandied about ironically, sometimes someone can put just an extra little bit of stank on it in context to make it suddenly sound nasty.
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quickflick - 20 Nov 2017 11:36 PM
City Sam - 20 Nov 2017 9:53 PM

Sam, I'm not suggesting a friendly against NZ. I'm suggesting a friendly against a decent side that plays defensive football; e.g. the Irish. It's probably unhelpful for me to say 'park the bus' as it causes too much confusion (even if the Irish do park the bus now and then). It's all a matter of degree. The Irish play defensive football and probably would do so against us, too.

I disagree with your appraisal of the style played by the sides in the pots. Iceland play defensive football. Sweden play defensive football, as do Tunisia. Egypt do.

In fact, a sizable chunk of pot 3 play defensive, more conservative football and rely on the counter-attack.

This is what Australia is rubbish against. It was abundantly clear throughout the qualification campaign. And to be expected when you think of the present characteristics of the Socceroos we witness game in game out. We didn't score from open play for how many games?

Sure, play against more proactive sides, too. But how can you not think getting better at facing more defensive sides isn't useful?

They all also play good attacking football when needed too, however it is still a waste of time playing a friendly against someone not good enough for the world cup. Lets play against world cup opposition, organise a friendly with one of those African sides, organise a friendly against a top side around the world and so on. Lets not waste time against an Irish side who wouldn't even be preparing for the world cup, it is the definition of a waste of time.
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City Sam - 20 Nov 2017 9:53 PM
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Ireland wouldn't park the bus against us, no one would throw 10 men behind the ball and try and steal a goal. No one in pot 1 would do that, no one in pot 2 would do that and the only team who'd potentially do that in pot 3 is Tunisia. Why would we waste our time playing against a rubbish New Zealand and a decent Irish team.

The friendlies we should play should be against the top teams and we should arrange a friendly against a pacey African team if we draw one of them in pot 3.

Sam, I'm not suggesting a friendly against NZ. I'm suggesting a friendly against a decent side that plays defensive football; e.g. the Irish. It's probably unhelpful for me to say 'park the bus' as it causes too much confusion (even if the Irish do park the bus now and then). It's all a matter of degree. The Irish play defensive football and probably would do so against us, too.

I disagree with your appraisal of the style played by the sides in the pots. Iceland play defensive football. Sweden play defensive football, as do Tunisia. Egypt do.

In fact, a sizable chunk of pot 3 play defensive, more conservative football and rely on the counter-attack.

This is what Australia is rubbish against. It was abundantly clear throughout the qualification campaign. And to be expected when you think of the present characteristics of the Socceroos we witness game in game out. We didn't score from open play for how many games?

Sure, play against more proactive sides, too. But how can you not think getting better at facing more defensive sides isn't useful?
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The Socceroos are set for a potential blockbuster clash with either Italy or England as a send-off before their Russia 2018 FIFA World Cup campaign.Source: SBS The World Game20 NOV 2017 - 7:17 PM  UPDATED 3 HOURS AGOFootball Federation Australia are currently considering their options with the likes of four-time World Cup champions Italy, along with England in the frame.Italy, who incredibly failed to reach the World Cup for the first time in 60 years, would appear the more likely option while the Netherlands, who also won't feature at football's showpiece event, are in the mix as well.

However, when asked about the potential of facing rivals England, FFA CEO David Gallop confirmed "it would be a sure-fire blockbuster".Usual suspects Melbourne and Sydney are set to fight it out to host the clash, while Perth are also said to be in the frame, particularly due to the reduced travel time from Europe."March is the next opportunity and off the back of this week it would make sense to look for a big opponent to be played in Australia," Gallop told The Sunday Times. “The chance is there for State governments and stadiums to put their best foot forward and bid for the game.“Unashamedly we need a good ­financial result but pitch quality and travel are important too. "The new stadium at Perth will be brilliant and the travel distance is advantageous for European nations and our own players who play there. 

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/11/20/socceroos-could-face-italy-or-england-world-cup-send-match



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quickflick - 20 Nov 2017 9:48 PM
Derider - 20 Nov 2017 9:05 PM

More than a few nations which qualified don't have the quality (or at least the consistency) to play largely proactive football. That was shown in the qualification campaign and in previous major tournaments.

True, they may think Australia's so crap that they might as well go on the attack. This would be a good thing because that suits Australia more than playing against a packed defence (particularly if the opponent in question hasn't an awful lot of quality further up the park). Nevertheless, one of Australia's biggest weakness is playing against very defensive sides. The Socceroos just suck at breaking down the defence. Therefore, it's incumbent upon them to have done the prep to do so.

If we're playing any group matches against lesser quality sides which use that style, then we need to be able to make the most of it.

Therefore, we need to be able to learn how to play against sides which park the bus. Ireland is such a side and wouldn't match up too badly against Australia.

N.B. that doesn't mean they shouldn't be practising against more proactive sides. It's best to be prepared for all scenarios and to be able to make the most of the opportunities presented and to play to your strengths.

Ireland wouldn't park the bus against us, no one would throw 10 men behind the ball and try and steal a goal. No one in pot 1 would do that, no one in pot 2 would do that and the only team who'd potentially do that in pot 3 is Tunisia. Why would we waste our time playing against a rubbish New Zealand and a decent Irish team.

The friendlies we should play should be against the top teams and we should arrange a friendly against a pacey African team if we draw one of them in pot 3.
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Derider - 20 Nov 2017 9:05 PM
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No one is going to park the bus against us at the World Cup. Games against Ireland or NZ would be next to useless in terms of preparation for what we're likely to face in Russia. 

More than a few nations which qualified don't have the quality (or at least the consistency) to play largely proactive football. That was shown in the qualification campaign and in previous major tournaments.

True, they may think Australia's so crap that they might as well go on the attack. This would be a good thing because that suits Australia more than playing against a packed defence (particularly if the opponent in question hasn't an awful lot of quality further up the park). Nevertheless, one of Australia's biggest weakness is playing against very defensive sides. The Socceroos just suck at breaking down the defence. Therefore, it's incumbent upon them to have done the prep to do so.

If we're playing any group matches against lesser quality sides which use that style, then we need to be able to make the most of it.

Therefore, we need to be able to learn how to play against sides which park the bus. Ireland is such a side and wouldn't match up too badly against Australia.

N.B. that doesn't mean they shouldn't be practising against more proactive sides. It's best to be prepared for all scenarios and to be able to make the most of the opportunities presented and to play to your strengths.
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Derider - 20 Nov 2017 9:05 PM
quickflick - 19 Nov 2017 2:05 PM

No one is going to park the bus against us at the World Cup. Games against Ireland or NZ would be next to useless in terms of preparation for what we're likely to face in Russia. 

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quickflick - 19 Nov 2017 2:05 PM
In all seriousness, Ireland would be fantastic. There are lots of cultural ties and lots of Irish people in Aus.

But also it's about the style of football that Ireland play. They tend to park the bus. One of Australia's biggest weakness is breaking down those types of defences where they just don't have the space.

Not sure how many warm-up matches there are. But, say there are three, then two against sides which park the bus and one against a side which plays more possession-based.



No one is going to park the bus against us at the World Cup. Games against Ireland or NZ would be next to useless in terms of preparation for what we're likely to face in Russia. 
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New Zealand in Perth IMO sells out. Then maybe a game in Melbourne vs Mexico or Columbia.

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Dont want Italy.

It plays into the wog narrative that Australia is shit if they lose and dont belong there. 

Portugal in Perth. That is a long shot, perhaps can convince them because Ronaldo has family there. But would prefer all games on East coast. 
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In all seriousness, Ireland would be fantastic. There are lots of cultural ties and lots of Irish people in Aus.

But also it's about the style of football that Ireland play. They tend to park the bus. One of Australia's biggest weakness is breaking down those types of defences where they just don't have the space.

Not sure how many warm-up matches there are. But, say there are three, then two against sides which park the bus and one against a side which plays more possession-based.

Ideal warm up would be vs Ireland at the MCG. And then vs Belgium or Holand in Europe. And vs Sweden or Italy in Europe.
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soccerfoo - 16 Nov 2017 12:00 AM
Republic of Ireland would be an excellent choice.

Exactly. Especially if it's at the MCG and U2 can be persuaded to do prematch entertainment, haha.
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Melbourne could host Socceroo send-off match before World Cup

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THE State government will shoot for a World Cup send-off match for the Socceroos.

Melbourne could host a match against a European giant such as Italy or rival England before the national team embarks on its bid to Russia 2018.

Football Federation Australia is in the early stages of planning a fitting farewell match against a high-profile rival.

A spokesman for Sports Minister John Eren, Kosta Pandos, said the Andrews Government was keen to bring the match to Melbourne.

“We’re always keen to host our Socceroos here in the sporting capital — and give them the send off they ­deserve before taking on the world,” he said.

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But Victoria will also have to fend off interest from Sydney and Perth to land the tie.

FFA chief executive David Gallop said securing England would be a sure-fire blockbuster.

“March is the next opportunity, and off the back of this week it would make sense to look for a big opponent to be played in Australia,” he said.

“The chance is there for State governments and stadiums to put their best foot forward and bid for the game.

“Unashamedly we need a good ­financial result but pitch quality and travel are important too.”

The West Australian government has confirmed its interest in a potential Socceroos glamour tie and has been asked to prepare a financial package to sweeten a deal.

Gallop said Perth’s new stadium and reduced travel time from Europe ticked some boxes.

The potential opponent for that clash is Italy, but other European ­giants, including ­England, were also in the frame.

But Italy’s failure to qualify for Russia would make them an easier ­opponent to entice.

The Netherlands’ failure to qualify puts them in the frame as well.

The match would be played early next year, with a FIFA window set aside from March 19-27 for international friendlies.

This is a rare timeslot on the soccer calendar where countries will be available to play who they want in the lead up to the World Cup.

The Socceroos’ qualification for the world’s most watched sporting event is a major boost for the code in Australia.

It coincided with new data from the Australian Sports Commission confirming the round ball game as the No. 1 participation team sport in WA.

The 32-nation World Cup runs from June 14 to July 15.

Melbourne could host Socceroo send-off match before World Cup | Herald Sun


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scott21 - 15 Nov 2017 10:59 PM
southmelb - 15 Nov 2017 10:51 PM

No sure, but maybe WA gov might buy a game for newe stadium also. 

There was talk of England or Argentina. FFA will take the most revenue. 

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Perth Stadium could host Socceroo’s farewell match before World Cup

PERTH’S new stadium has the tempting opportunity to host the Socceroos before the squad flies out to the World Cup in Russia next year.

But to seize that opportunity, the WA Government must move quickly and stump up a financial package to fend off opposition from the likes of Sydney and Melbourne. Tourism WA confirmed on Friday that discussions were taking place.

After the Socceroos clinched a World Cup place on Wednesday, Football Federation of Australia chief executive David Gallop told The Sunday Timesthat Perth ticked all the boxes for a farewell match, partly because of the reduced travel time to and from Europe.

Mile Jedinak's hat-trick booked the Socceroos' a World Cup spot

The potential opponent for that clash is Italy but other European giants, including England, are also in the frame. The match would be early next year where there is a FIFA window from March 19-27, which is left open for international friendlies.

This is a rare timeslot on the soccer calendar where countries will be available to play who they want in the lead-up to the World Cup.

“March is the next opportunity and off the back of this week it would make sense to look for a big opponent to be played in Australia,” Mr Gallop said. “The chance is there for State governments and stadiums to put their best foot forward and bid for the game.

“The new stadium at Perth will be brilliant and the travel distance is advantageous for European nations and our own players who play there.

“Unashamedly we need a good financial result but pitch quality and travel are important too, and Perth is certainly expected to tick both those boxes.”

Perth Stadium.
Perth Stadium.Picture: Iain Gillespie

When asked if England could be an opponent in March, Mr Gallop said: “It would be a sure-fire blockbuster.”

But Italy’s failure to qualify for Russia makes them an easier opponent to entice.

The Sunday Times understands the FFA is exploring the possibility of a clash with the Azzurri — Italy’s national team. Holland’s failure to qualify puts them in the frame as well.

The WA Government has a multi-million dollar budget to attract major events.

For example, it is paying up to $5 million to stage the Bledisloe Cup clash between the Wallabies and All Blacks in 2019.

The Barnett government also committed an undisclosed sum to bring English Premier League champions Chelsea to Perth for a friendly match against Perth Glory in late July or early August next year.

On Friday, Tourism WA’s executive director events Saskia Doherty said: “The State Government assesses each event opportunity to determine whether it fits event funding criteria, annual budgets and our strategy to boost tourism in WA.”

“We remain in discussion with relevant parties regarding potential opportunities for hosting the Socceroos in the future.”

Captain Mile Jedinak celebrates scoring a goal.
Captain Mile Jedinak celebrates scoring a goal.Picture: Getty Images

WA Sport Minister Mick Murray said he would love to see the Socceroos play in Perth before the World Cup.

“I’d welcome any talks that are happening between the Socceroos and Tourism WA,” he said.

“And I’d encourage all parties to make it happen.”

The Socceroos’ qualification for the world’s most watched sporting event is a major boost for the code in Australia.

It coincided with the latest data from by the Australian Sports Commission, confirming the round ball game as the No.1 participation team sport in WA.

The 32-nation World Cup runs from June 14 to July 15

Perth Stadium could host Socceroo’s farewell match before World Cup


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bohemia - 18 Nov 2017 12:11 AM
paladisious - 17 Nov 2017 12:22 PM

I'm not entirely sure about the highrises. The ground is actually the home of Slovan Bratislava but will share with the national team. The original proposal was a private venture consisting of the stadium, a hotel tower, apartments and a shopping centre. The private project collapsed and was revived as a government funded one. I don't know what form the highrises are taking under this funding regime. I know from my last visit that the foundations for the highrises are under construction though.

From the article
https://sport24.pluska.sk/futbal/slovensko/foto-narodny-futbalovy-stadion-dostal-pozehnanie-ako-bude-vyzerat-kolko-bude-stat.html

"Nejdeme do žiadnej megalomanskej stavby, kapacita 40 alebo 50-tisíc divákov, o ktorej sa kedysi hovorilo, by bola prehnaná. Stačí nám štadión s asi 20-tisíc miestami, ktorý bude kvalitný a bezpečný.,""

From the Slovak president. "we don't need a megalomanic capacity of 40-50,000. about 20,000 seats of good quality and in safety is enough.

Wish we had a president like that.

Can he get in touch with the NSW Premier?
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ITALY!!!!
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paladisious - 17 Nov 2017 12:22 PM
bohemia - 17 Nov 2017 4:36 AM

Looks great, when/if it's finished, that is!

Is that tower a hotel, or has some other amenity to their team and visiting teams, maybe the federation's offices? It'd be cool to have a one stop shop kind of deal like that.

I'm not entirely sure about the highrises. The ground is actually the home of Slovan Bratislava but will share with the national team. The original proposal was a private venture consisting of the stadium, a hotel tower, apartments and a shopping centre. The private project collapsed and was revived as a government funded one. I don't know what form the highrises are taking under this funding regime. I know from my last visit that the foundations for the highrises are under construction though.

From the article
https://sport24.pluska.sk/futbal/slovensko/foto-narodny-futbalovy-stadion-dostal-pozehnanie-ako-bude-vyzerat-kolko-bude-stat.html

"Nejdeme do žiadnej megalomanskej stavby, kapacita 40 alebo 50-tisíc divákov, o ktorej sa kedysi hovorilo, by bola prehnaná. Stačí nám štadión s asi 20-tisíc miestami, ktorý bude kvalitný a bezpečný.,""

From the Slovak president. "we don't need a megalomanic capacity of 40-50,000. about 20,000 seats of good quality and in safety is enough.

Wish we had a president like that.



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vs usa would be incredible.
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We could play Chile, Italy, Scotland, Ireland or Iran and get bumper crowds at home for varying reasons.

Would also be nice to play a game in Europe, that could be against anybody, but preferably against a middle or top tier European nation.


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paladisious - 17 Nov 2017 12:22 PM
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Looks great, when/if it's finished, that is!

Is that tower a hotel, or has some other amenity to their team and visiting teams, maybe the federation's offices? It'd be cool to have a one stop shop kind of deal like that.

In March 2 matches against teams like Cameroon, Ghana, Chile, Ecuador, Paraguay or midranked Europeans such as Ukraine, Slovakia, Ireland, Scotland, Wales. If Asian for logistical reasons then preferably South Korea.

If the USA goes ahead with matches against high profile teams like Italy and the Netherlands in June then probably go with one of the above at home in May before 1 or 2 more in Europe/Russia against World Cup Pot 2 and Pot 3 level teams.
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bohemia - 17 Nov 2017 4:36 AM
paladisious - 17 Nov 2017 1:48 AM

Interesting thought. Going by this article:

https://sport24.pluska.sk/futbal/slovensko/foto-narodny-futbalovy-stadion-dostal-pozehnanie-ako-bude-vyzerat-kolko-bude-stat.html

They started construction in September 2016 with a scheduled build time of 76 weeks. That could put it close to the window for pre world cup.

Of course factor in that they demolished the old stadium in 2013 then copped a 3 year delay so our Slovak mates aren't the most punctual.

Looks great, when/if it's finished, that is!

Is that tower a hotel, or has some other amenity to their team and visiting teams, maybe the federation's offices? It'd be cool to have a one stop shop kind of deal like that.
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miron mercedes - 16 Nov 2017 1:03 PM
if they brought out Italy who would all the third generation Italian/Aussies support ?
The Italians who won't be in Russia or the Aussies  who will be ?
Big decisions...

Never mind the third gen what about Matt Canavan?


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Italy would be good for the publicity and money but it's also nice to go off on a win...
Maybe the USA would be the best of both worlds? Or wait and see the draw and choose an opponent similar to one of the teams in our group...
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