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+x+xAnge has basically spent 2 years and 20+ games playing a formation (and probably a few players) that no other coach will play at the WC. So I ask, Ange; "What was the point? Was it for your own professional satisfaction (I won't say ego). It certainly didn't make qualification easier. It certainly didn't make us world beaters - not even the best in Asia. And the new coach now has what, 3 or 4 games? So, WHAT WAS THE POINT?" Not agreeing with what Ange did, but didn't Hiddink have 2 games before the Uruguay games? It can be done Exactly!!
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We aren't at the same point we were 4 years ago, 4 years ago the captain needed to be retired and a host of older players phased out, the team you saw the past few weeks is the one that's going to Russia.
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+xWe aren't at the same point we were 4 years ago, 4 years ago the captain needed to be retired and a host of older players phased out, the team you saw the past few weeks is the one that's going to Russia. Exactly. We are in a far better position now than in 2014, even without Ange. Any coach worth his money should be able to take this team and at least keep them where they are, if not improve them. They know all the formations and each other so its just a matter of the new guy working with whats been done and not dismantling it entirely to start again. Whether that's a back 3 or 4, diamond or box midfield or whatever it should be quite doable.
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The fact that he didn't talk to the players or staff before the decision. Just means he has run out of ideas and they are not good enough. Everything in his statement was about himself.
He thinks that being the NT coach is stressful. He is in for shock for a European club hell there is a rumour on going to China. He's not going to last long there.
3 times he has done this. So it is a trend. Basically he followed the path I thought he would when he took over.
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3 times he has done this? He owed Brisbane absolutely nothing, they showed faith in him when he was blacklisted from the game and he repaid them in full with multiple titles. Every job he has taken he has left it in a better position then when he took over.
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Angus
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+xAnge has basically spent 2 years and 20+ games playing a formation (and probably a few players) that no other coach will play at the WC. So I ask, Ange; "What was the point? Was it for your own professional satisfaction (I won't say ego). It certainly didn't make qualification easier. It certainly didn't make us world beaters - not even the best in Asia. And the new coach now has what, 3 or 4 games? So, WHAT WAS THE POINT?" Asian champions not good enough? Only decent trophy we have ever won.
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+x+xAnge has basically spent 2 years and 20+ games playing a formation (and probably a few players) that no other coach will play at the WC. So I ask, Ange; "What was the point? Was it for your own professional satisfaction (I won't say ego). It certainly didn't make qualification easier. It certainly didn't make us world beaters - not even the best in Asia. And the new coach now has what, 3 or 4 games? So, WHAT WAS THE POINT?" Asian champions not good enough? Only decent trophy we have ever won. Yeah it was good and we made it......just. Woud you expect anything less as a host of the tournament, under any manager? Especially given our home record. Then there is a whole other debate about the quality of Asian teams at the time, Japan etc , and we were lucky we missed Iran.
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Angus
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+x+x+xAnge has basically spent 2 years and 20+ games playing a formation (and probably a few players) that no other coach will play at the WC. So I ask, Ange; "What was the point? Was it for your own professional satisfaction (I won't say ego). It certainly didn't make qualification easier. It certainly didn't make us world beaters - not even the best in Asia. And the new coach now has what, 3 or 4 games? So, WHAT WAS THE POINT?" Asian champions not good enough? Only decent trophy we have ever won. Yeah it was good and we made it......just. Woud you expect anything less as a host of the tournament, under any manager? Especially given our home record. Then there is a whole other debate about the quality of Asian teams at the time, Japan etc , and we were lucky we missed Iran. Actually did expect less. And therefore rate the win as that much better.
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+x+x+x+xAnge has basically spent 2 years and 20+ games playing a formation (and probably a few players) that no other coach will play at the WC. So I ask, Ange; "What was the point? Was it for your own professional satisfaction (I won't say ego). It certainly didn't make qualification easier. It certainly didn't make us world beaters - not even the best in Asia. And the new coach now has what, 3 or 4 games? So, WHAT WAS THE POINT?" Asian champions not good enough? Only decent trophy we have ever won. Yeah it was good and we made it......just. Woud you expect anything less as a host of the tournament, under any manager? Especially given our home record. Then there is a whole other debate about the quality of Asian teams at the time, Japan etc , and we were lucky we missed Iran. Actually did expect less. And therefore rate the win as that much better. I expected us to win.
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Angus
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+x+x+x+x+xAnge has basically spent 2 years and 20+ games playing a formation (and probably a few players) that no other coach will play at the WC. So I ask, Ange; "What was the point? Was it for your own professional satisfaction (I won't say ego). It certainly didn't make qualification easier. It certainly didn't make us world beaters - not even the best in Asia. And the new coach now has what, 3 or 4 games? So, WHAT WAS THE POINT?" Asian champions not good enough? Only decent trophy we have ever won. Yeah it was good and we made it......just. Woud you expect anything less as a host of the tournament, under any manager? Especially given our home record. Then there is a whole other debate about the quality of Asian teams at the time, Japan etc , and we were lucky we missed Iran. Actually did expect less. And therefore rate the win as that much better. I expected us to win. I was confident of semi finals but didn't think we had the team to go further. Firmly believe that Ange was the difference between 3rd place playoff and winning.
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He is a liar. That is a fact. He always talked about how everything he did was for the benefit of football in australia, for the socceroos etc. and how it was all about what you did in the world cup when you got there, not just getting there.
now he's left the team completely worse off. he's f--ked us. how can the next coach lead us to the world cup, start from scratch, with only a few games left. he had OVER 4 YEARS to prepare or resign and left it til now.
none of makes any sense. i think the pressure completely cracked him to be honest. at some point his whole persona changed.
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+xAnge has basically spent 2 years and 20+ games playing a formation (and probably a few players) that no other coach will play at the WC. So I ask, Ange; "What was the point? Was it for your own professional satisfaction (I won't say ego). It certainly didn't make qualification easier. It certainly didn't make us world beaters - not even the best in Asia. And the new coach now has what, 3 or 4 games? So, WHAT WAS THE POINT?" He had 400,000 points.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAnge has basically spent 2 years and 20+ games playing a formation (and probably a few players) that no other coach will play at the WC. So I ask, Ange; "What was the point? Was it for your own professional satisfaction (I won't say ego). It certainly didn't make qualification easier. It certainly didn't make us world beaters - not even the best in Asia. And the new coach now has what, 3 or 4 games? So, WHAT WAS THE POINT?" Asian champions not good enough? Only decent trophy we have ever won. Yeah it was good and we made it......just. Woud you expect anything less as a host of the tournament, under any manager? Especially given our home record. Then there is a whole other debate about the quality of Asian teams at the time, Japan etc , and we were lucky we missed Iran. Actually did expect less. And therefore rate the win as that much better. I expected us to win. I was confident of semi finals but didn't think we had the team to go further. Firmly believe that Ange was the difference between 3rd place playoff and winning. And then couldn't get 1 of 4 Auto spots ? Or is the team worse now ?
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Can't stand the bloke but he at least tried a shitload of new players.
If we remember back 4 years ago, Holger's biggest problem was he kept selecting the same players that were well and truly past it.
I'm glad to see the back of Ange but at least he did phase in a few players
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Angus
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnge has basically spent 2 years and 20+ games playing a formation (and probably a few players) that no other coach will play at the WC. So I ask, Ange; "What was the point? Was it for your own professional satisfaction (I won't say ego). It certainly didn't make qualification easier. It certainly didn't make us world beaters - not even the best in Asia. And the new coach now has what, 3 or 4 games? So, WHAT WAS THE POINT?" Asian champions not good enough? Only decent trophy we have ever won. Yeah it was good and we made it......just. Woud you expect anything less as a host of the tournament, under any manager? Especially given our home record. Then there is a whole other debate about the quality of Asian teams at the time, Japan etc , and we were lucky we missed Iran. Actually did expect less. And therefore rate the win as that much better. I expected us to win. I was confident of semi finals but didn't think we had the team to go further. Firmly believe that Ange was the difference between 3rd place playoff and winning. And then couldn't get 1 of 4 Auto spots ? Or is the team worse now ? I didn't comment on that, only commented on the brushing aside of the Asian cup win as any sort of achievement. Your point about the qualifying campaign only increases the AC achievement, really. But Australia were, and are, only a striker away from being a good team. If we were an A-League club we would just buy a foreigner.
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