RBBAnonymous
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 3.8K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+xBut notice how, for only 39% possession, South Korea had almost as many Shots on Goal and Shots on Target? And ofcourse more effective shots and goals. Those stats look good for us, but it wasn't looking that great within the first 65-70 minutes of the game where we struggled for any shots and effective possession in the front third. South Korea would have lead us in those stats for most of the game. Most of our best chances and therefore goals were in that late period, with the subs on and we going all-out with the Koreans sitting back and tiring. And many of those 'Shots on Target' were either blocked by Defenders or straight at the keeper, which he managed easily. Perhaps four of those shots on target, he had to tip away for a corner or palmed away including the one that lead to Cowburn's goal. We were pressing high, sitting in their back third for most of the last 10-15 minutes of the match, more than we had the entire game and that's when we were finally more effective in the final third, with numbers in the area against a tiring, ever deeper, defence. I think even some of the Koreans dropped in concentration late in the game, with such a lead, we up against it and the conditions and tournament schedule kicking in along with their long periods defending on the counter. That lead to some errors which we failed to capitalise on - they were basically inviting us to match their goal count. * That Korea had less shots, coupled with low possession, and most likely territory, with so many of Aussie superior shot count hitting the post and creating near misses, it showed Australia's deficiency in shooting from first time shots with either foot, or side of the body, or head. This needs to improve immeasurably.
Australians in the A-league don't know how to shoot first time or they are told not to. It happens so many times in the A-league it does my head in. A perfectly laid off pass and for some reason or other the player just about to shoot stops the ball, makes room (wasting precious seconds you don't have) and then decides to shoot on goal. You just don't have time and it gives the defender and the goalkeeper time to get back and defend a shot. It is also difficult to generate power from a standing start and you lose that element of surprise from shooting first time. If a ball is put on a plate begging to be hit, just hit it.
|
|
|
|
Decentric
|
|
Group: Awaiting Activation
Posts: 22K,
Visits: 0
|
+xBlackwood needs to learn to drop deep to get the ball, hold it up, receive ball to feet, see players like Riera and Bobo. If he doesn't do this then our game becomes simply getting it wide, hitting in crosses and hoping. Blackwood could do it better. So could Bobo and Riera.
|
|
|
Decentric
|
|
Group: Awaiting Activation
Posts: 22K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+xI am not that impressed with our u23's and with the development of our youngsters. This is supposed to be the best of the young A-league talent and they got soundly knocked out of the tournament. No creativity, no go forward, plenty of sideways passing and passing backwards, no players with any individuality or creativity to bust open a game. We are building robotic players straight out of a cookie cutter machine. The whole idea is to score goals in a game of football and do it with effective possession. We do well to hold onto the ball for long periods but it is not effective. We hold possession for the sake of holding possession. Its driving me crazy watching us play. Well they aren't quite the best of the talent in the pool and if all the top talents were selected, then the A-League clubs would have had all-out war with the FFA again, as lads like Daniel Arzani, Ivan Vujica, Ryan Strain, Nathaniel Atkinson, Lachlan Wales, John Koutroumbis, Rahmat Akbari, Jacob Italiano and a host of others were selected too. These players and others should feature in the coming Tokyo 2020 campaign. And George Blackwood has seen more opportunity with Adelaide United, but with more opportunities he hasn't improved enough and is starting to show why he struggled with the opportunities he had at Sydney and why they let him go. Meanwhile, speaking of talent and AU have unearthed a number of talents in the absence of Blackwood and some first teamers, including Stamatelopoulos who seems a much brighter talent. There were some injury absences too, like Joe Calletti - though one wonders how his smaller stature may've gone in these games too, given how De Silva had a mixed time of it. Calletti has played and coped at ACL level before. Our youth NTs often seem to struggle with the poorer pitches overseas, but that's never an excuse as both teams have to deal with it. We're almost always too slow with our ball movement and switching and that allows opposing defences to settle and adjust too easily. You wonder with some more dynamism of some of the above players in the team, if that may have addressed some of the static issues. Milicic needed to be bolder here too and back Popovic as the #9 upfront with Champness or Hrustic on the wide left, to have late runners and more numbers and passing options, rather than the wingers and wing backs sitting back for the crosses into the box, often dealt with or Blackwood not a capable enough presence to make more of it, especially with three defenders around him. Easy to say from the armchair though and he had to rotate players with the tight schedule of this tournament. Milicic would have preferred and lined up to get more out of the Vietnam game and to be resting some key players and further rotating for this evening in anticipation of group progression. But their falling short last game, upset the plans for this game, the most difficult in their group. I think this is a really good point. Not just in regard to popovic but in general. I'm confident Milicic is going to be a very good manager in the long term but he also needs to release the shackles on these players. At U23 level it is time to be going out to win all matches. Do what you need to do and what you believe in Ante to get the results One issue Ange claims is a problem with FFA underage teams, is that many coaches are given these jobs to develop their talents. Milicic is still an inexperienced head coach.
|
|
|
JonoMV
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.9K,
Visits: 0
|
Looked like the typical performance at youth level. On play alone we should've made it out of the group, played better than what I was seeing at other tournaments over the years. As always our plays lack the mental toughness and drive at this level. Appears everyone would rather play safe when things get a little but uncomfortable, instead of going out and grabbing it. Blackwood's time is almost up imo as a forward, never impressed me.Even his goal (the last one) against Syria came off the shin lol
|
|
|
theFOOTBALLlover
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.3K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+x+xI am not that impressed with our u23's and with the development of our youngsters. This is supposed to be the best of the young A-league talent and they got soundly knocked out of the tournament. No creativity, no go forward, plenty of sideways passing and passing backwards, no players with any individuality or creativity to bust open a game. We are building robotic players straight out of a cookie cutter machine. The whole idea is to score goals in a game of football and do it with effective possession. We do well to hold onto the ball for long periods but it is not effective. We hold possession for the sake of holding possession. Its driving me crazy watching us play. Well they aren't quite the best of the talent in the pool and if all the top talents were selected, then the A-League clubs would have had all-out war with the FFA again, as lads like Daniel Arzani, Ivan Vujica, Ryan Strain, Nathaniel Atkinson, Lachlan Wales, John Koutroumbis, Rahmat Akbari, Jacob Italiano and a host of others were selected too. These players and others should feature in the coming Tokyo 2020 campaign. And George Blackwood has seen more opportunity with Adelaide United, but with more opportunities he hasn't improved enough and is starting to show why he struggled with the opportunities he had at Sydney and why they let him go. Meanwhile, speaking of talent and AU have unearthed a number of talents in the absence of Blackwood and some first teamers, including Stamatelopoulos who seems a much brighter talent. There were some injury absences too, like Joe Calletti - though one wonders how his smaller stature may've gone in these games too, given how De Silva had a mixed time of it. Calletti has played and coped at ACL level before. Our youth NTs often seem to struggle with the poorer pitches overseas, but that's never an excuse as both teams have to deal with it. We're almost always too slow with our ball movement and switching and that allows opposing defences to settle and adjust too easily. You wonder with some more dynamism of some of the above players in the team, if that may have addressed some of the static issues. Milicic needed to be bolder here too and back Popovic as the #9 upfront with Champness or Hrustic on the wide left, to have late runners and more numbers and passing options, rather than the wingers and wing backs sitting back for the crosses into the box, often dealt with or Blackwood not a capable enough presence to make more of it, especially with three defenders around him. Easy to say from the armchair though and he had to rotate players with the tight schedule of this tournament. Milicic would have preferred and lined up to get more out of the Vietnam game and to be resting some key players and further rotating for this evening in anticipation of group progression. But their falling short last game, upset the plans for this game, the most difficult in their group. I think this is a really good point. Not just in regard to popovic but in general. I'm confident Milicic is going to be a very good manager in the long term but he also needs to release the shackles on these players. At U23 level it is time to be going out to win all matches. Do what you need to do and what you believe in Ante to get the results One issue Ange claims is a problem with FFA underage teams, is that many coaches are given these jobs to develop their talents. Milicic is still an inexperienced head coach. A lot of ex players don't have to earn their coaching jobs in Australia. Saying that, look at England.
|
|
|
phutbol
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.3K,
Visits: 0
|
We really did out play Korea for large parts of that 2nd half (sadly after we were already just about screwed) and had more than enough chances to actually win the game even with the shitty defending. If they came out like that from the start it could have been different.
Also, how the fuck did Izzo not come out and get that high ball for the first goal? thats nothing to do with 3 at the back or whatever. its just shit keeping and put us under pressure immediately. Just walk out 7 yards and catch the ball. it went almost vertical. Shit like that makes a difference.
|
|
|
New Signing
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.6K,
Visits: 0
|
+xWe really did out play Korea for large parts of that 2nd half (sadly after we were already just about screwed) and had more than enough chances to actually win the game even with the shitty defending. If they came out like that from the start it could have been different. Also, how the fuck did Izzo not come out and get that high ball for the first goal? thats nothing to do with 3 at the back or whatever. its just shit keeping and put us under pressure immediately. Just walk out 7 yards and catch the ball. it went almost vertical. Shit like that makes a difference. If Izzo is our best U23 keeper things are looking bleak in that department
|
|
|
sub007
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 9.3K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+xWe really did out play Korea for large parts of that 2nd half (sadly after we were already just about screwed) and had more than enough chances to actually win the game even with the shitty defending. If they came out like that from the start it could have been different. Also, how the fuck did Izzo not come out and get that high ball for the first goal? thats nothing to do with 3 at the back or whatever. its just shit keeping and put us under pressure immediately. Just walk out 7 yards and catch the ball. it went almost vertical. Shit like that makes a difference. If Izzo is our best U23 keeper things are looking bleak in that department Lol, Izzo is the best keeper in the HAL.
|
|
|
Paul01
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.9K,
Visits: 0
|
More like if Cowburn has s our best right back, we are doomed. He was at fault for 2 of the 3 goals. Keanu Baccus did a better job despite being a defensive midfielder.
Milicic should have picked some of the u19s.
Plus he didn’t really have a cohesive defence. That is on him.
|
|
|
Muz
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 14K,
Visits: 0
|
+xAlso, how the fuck did Izzo not come out and get that high ball for the first goal? thats nothing to do with 3 at the back or whatever. its just shit keeping and put us under pressure immediately. Just walk out 7 yards and catch the ball. it went almost vertical. Shit like that makes a difference. Yep. So many dumb errors.
Member since 2008.
|
|
|
New Signing
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.6K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+xWe really did out play Korea for large parts of that 2nd half (sadly after we were already just about screwed) and had more than enough chances to actually win the game even with the shitty defending. If they came out like that from the start it could have been different. Also, how the fuck did Izzo not come out and get that high ball for the first goal? thats nothing to do with 3 at the back or whatever. its just shit keeping and put us under pressure immediately. Just walk out 7 yards and catch the ball. it went almost vertical. Shit like that makes a difference. If Izzo is our best U23 keeper things are looking bleak in that department Lol, Izzo is the best keeper in the HAL. Nope
|
|
|
sub007
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 9.3K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+x+xWe really did out play Korea for large parts of that 2nd half (sadly after we were already just about screwed) and had more than enough chances to actually win the game even with the shitty defending. If they came out like that from the start it could have been different. Also, how the fuck did Izzo not come out and get that high ball for the first goal? thats nothing to do with 3 at the back or whatever. its just shit keeping and put us under pressure immediately. Just walk out 7 yards and catch the ball. it went almost vertical. Shit like that makes a difference. If Izzo is our best U23 keeper things are looking bleak in that department Lol, Izzo is the best keeper in the HAL. Nope Who's better than Izzo?
|
|
|
kaufusi
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 2.6K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+xWe really did out play Korea for large parts of that 2nd half (sadly after we were already just about screwed) and had more than enough chances to actually win the game even with the shitty defending. If they came out like that from the start it could have been different. Also, how the fuck did Izzo not come out and get that high ball for the first goal? thats nothing to do with 3 at the back or whatever. its just shit keeping and put us under pressure immediately. Just walk out 7 yards and catch the ball. it went almost vertical. Shit like that makes a difference. If Izzo is our best U23 keeper things are looking bleak in that department Lol, Izzo is the best keeper in the HAL. Lol, Izzo is barely HAL level. Not in the top 6 keepers, maybe just ahead of/on par with Ben Kennedy, Moss, Reddy and Italiano. Definitely behind (in no order) Redmayne, Thomas, Vedran, Young/Theo, Galekovic. If he plays in goals for the Olympics qualifying campaign we're doomed. (same goes for Blackwood). It's not personal, its just persisting with players that repeatedly fail while not giving others an opportunity is madness. And if these guys really are the best we have at this age group we don't deserve to qualify. Amazing the difference in play once our boys were just told to have a crack compared to when they simply played sideways rubbish. Maybe it coincided with DPK tiring but we actually could have easily won a game in which we were 3-0 down.
|
|
|
sub007
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 9.3K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+x+xWe really did out play Korea for large parts of that 2nd half (sadly after we were already just about screwed) and had more than enough chances to actually win the game even with the shitty defending. If they came out like that from the start it could have been different. Also, how the fuck did Izzo not come out and get that high ball for the first goal? thats nothing to do with 3 at the back or whatever. its just shit keeping and put us under pressure immediately. Just walk out 7 yards and catch the ball. it went almost vertical. Shit like that makes a difference. If Izzo is our best U23 keeper things are looking bleak in that department Lol, Izzo is the best keeper in the HAL. Lol, Izzo is barely HAL level. Not in the top 6 keepers, maybe just ahead of/on par with Ben Kennedy, Moss, Reddy and Italiano. Definitely behind (in no order) Redmayne, Thomas, Vedran, Young/Theo, Galekovic. If he plays in goals for the Olympics qualifying campaign we're doomed. (same goes for Blackwood). It's not personal, its just persisting with players that repeatedly fail while not giving others an opportunity is madness. And if these guys really are the best we have at this age group we don't deserve to qualify. Amazing the difference in play once our boys were just told to have a crack compared to when they simply played sideways rubbish. Maybe it coincided with DPK tiring but we actually could have easily won a game in which we were 3-0 down. Izzo has improved out of sight over the last two seasons and this season has been immense for us (Adelaide). Young and Thomas are up there with Izzo imo although Young doesn't protect his near post often enough. Moss is a good keeper as well. Vedran is far too inconsistent. He looks great one week and then looks horrid the next. Redmayne has improved out of sight this season as well but hsn't really been tested much. Theo is past it and has been very mediocre over the last couple of seasons as well. Age has caught up with Galecovic as well which is why we replaced him with Izzo. Galecovic is still a solid keeper though. Blackwood can still come good. He needs to be better but he has scored in 3 of his last four HAL games. I agree with your last point.
|
|
|
redcup
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 3K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+x+x+xWe really did out play Korea for large parts of that 2nd half (sadly after we were already just about screwed) and had more than enough chances to actually win the game even with the shitty defending. If they came out like that from the start it could have been different. Also, how the fuck did Izzo not come out and get that high ball for the first goal? thats nothing to do with 3 at the back or whatever. its just shit keeping and put us under pressure immediately. Just walk out 7 yards and catch the ball. it went almost vertical. Shit like that makes a difference. If Izzo is our best U23 keeper things are looking bleak in that department Lol, Izzo is the best keeper in the HAL. Nope Who's better than Izzo? The back-up Margush controls the box better and he's younger. He showed how good he is by keeping Sydney scoreless with a youngster team in front of him.
|
|
|
sub007
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 9.3K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+x+x+x+x+xWe really did out play Korea for large parts of that 2nd half (sadly after we were already just about screwed) and had more than enough chances to actually win the game even with the shitty defending. If they came out like that from the start it could have been different. Also, how the fuck did Izzo not come out and get that high ball for the first goal? thats nothing to do with 3 at the back or whatever. its just shit keeping and put us under pressure immediately. Just walk out 7 yards and catch the ball. it went almost vertical. Shit like that makes a difference. If Izzo is our best U23 keeper things are looking bleak in that department Lol, Izzo is the best keeper in the HAL. Nope Who's better than Izzo? The back-up Margush controls the box better and he's younger. He showed how good he is by keeping Sydney scoreless with a youngster team in front of him. I rate Margush but Izzo is better at the moment although Margush probably has more potential. Margush's distribution wasn't at his best against Sydney and was lucky he didn't cost us a couple of goals.
|
|
|
johnszasz
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 26K,
Visits: 0
|
Uzbekistan lead Japan 3:0 at half time.
|
|
|
Mr B
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 14K,
Visits: 1
|
+xUzbekistan lead Japan 3:0 at half time. 4 nill now.
|
|
|
paladisious
|
|
Group: Moderators
Posts: 39K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+xUzbekistan lead Japan 3:0 at half time. 4 nill now. Crikey.
|
|
|
johnszasz
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 26K,
Visits: 0
|
Anyone know much about former Perth player Matthew Davies who now plays for Malaysia?
|
|
|
sub007
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 9.3K,
Visits: 0
|
+xAnyone know much about former Perth player Matthew Davies who now plays for Malaysia? According to wiki he was the youngest ever captain of Pahang and the first half-Malaysian to be a captain in the MSL. He has 14 caps for the senior Malaysian national team as well. Does anyone think he could return to the HAL?
|
|
|
johnszasz
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 26K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+xAnyone know much about former Perth player Matthew Davies who now plays for Malaysia? According to wiki he was the youngest ever captain of Pahang and the first half-Malaysian to be a captain in the MSL. He has 14 caps for the senior Malaysian national team as well. Does anyone think he could return to the HAL? It's an interesting path.
|
|
|
johnszasz
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 26K,
Visits: 0
|
|
|
|
johnszasz
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 26K,
Visits: 0
|
Qatar 3:2 over Palestine.
|
|
|
robbos
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 3.6K,
Visits: 0
|
Japan football in crisis. J-League in crisis Japan needs to go back to playing their strengths Japan needs to look at their youth structure.
|
|
|
Barca4Life
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 13K,
Visits: 0
|
Shocked by that result, the Uzbeks must have a strong generation coming through.
There number 17 called Dostonbek Khamdamov is 21 and has played 89 first team games and has scored around 34 goals in the process, has one of the best u21 players in Asia right now, he's a gun.
|
|
|
hog1
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 135,
Visits: 0
|
+xShocked by that result, the Uzbeks must have a strong generation coming through. There number 17 called Dostonbek Khamdamov is 21 and has played 89 first team games and has scored around 34 goals in the process, has one of the best u21 players in Asia right now, he's a gun. There 8 looked really composed from those clips. Why cant Australia have someone like this who can actually put it in the back of the net.
|
|
|
paladisious
|
|
Group: Moderators
Posts: 39K,
Visits: 0
|
+xQatar 3:2 over Palestine. That's too bad.
|
|
|
lukerobinho
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 10K,
Visits: 0
|
+xShocked by that result, the Uzbeks must have a strong generation coming through. There number 17 called Dostonbek Khamdamov is 21 and has played 89 first team games and has scored around 34 goals in the process, has one of the best u21 players in Asia right now, he's a gun. Uzbek have been strong at youth level for years but its never really translated into anything at senior level
|
|
|
johnszasz
|
|
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 26K,
Visits: 0
|
+x+xQatar 3:2 over Palestine. That's too bad. The Qatari bunch peaking well for 2022. Hope they draw Germany Argentina and Nigeria.
|
|
|