2018 FFA Cup preliminary rounds


2018 FFA Cup preliminary rounds

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FFA Cup - Victoria round 1 forfeits so far:
Plenty Valley Lions v Bayside Argonauts - (Bayside Argonauts advance to round 2 via forfeit)
Lara United v Keysborough - (Lara United advance to round 2 via forfeit)
Myrtleford Savoy v Riversdale - (Myrtleford Savoy advance to round 2 via forfeit)
Harrisfield Hurricanes v Melbourne City - (Harrisfield Hurricanes advance to round 2 via forfeit)


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Wangaratta City qualified for VIC Round 1 by thrashing Swinburne FC by a state-record 17-0😮...let's see if Collingwood City can put up a better fight:
http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/5234929/wangaratta-citys-goal-blitz-sets-a-victorian-ffa-cup-record/?cs=10


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Why do these teams forfeit? Distance between clubs?
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Some of the forfeits are distance based, but a lot of them are because clubs that far down the pyramid in Victoria just don't have the players available in February. As entry is compulsory down to State League 5, a lot of clubs at that level are pretty social, they haven't even started pre season training yet and quite a few players are still committed to Summer sports. The actual start of the season is still over a month away.
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thewitness - 21 Feb 2018 8:21 PM
Some of the forfeits are distance based, but a lot of them are because clubs that far down the pyramid in Victoria just don't have the players available in February. As entry is compulsory down to State League 5, a lot of clubs at that level are pretty social, they haven't even started pre season training yet and quite a few players are still committed to Summer sports. The actual start of the season is still over a month away.

Surely they can rely on their ressies etc.


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FFA Cup – Victoria round 1 kickoff times,
8.00pm Friday Chisholm United v Noble Park United at Jack Edwards Reserve
8.45pm Friday Ringwood City v Greenvale United at Jubilee Park
12.00pm Saturday Darebin United v Barwon at Harvest Home Recreation Reserve
12.00pm Saturday Dingley Stars v Golden Plains at Howard Glover Reserve
1.00pm Saturday RMIT v Aspendale at RMIT Bundoora Sports Centre
1.00pm Saturday Old Trinity Grammarians v Dandenong Warriors at Prospect Hill Reserve
1.00pm Saturday Springvale City v Baxter at Baxter Park
2.00pm Saturday Sunbury United v Spring Hills at Langama Park
2.00pm Saturday Point Cook Jets v Bundoora United at Saltwater Reserve
2.00pm Saturday Somerville Eagles v Balmoral at Somerville Secondary College
2.00pm Saturday Endeavour United v Ashburton United at Reema Reserve
2.00pm Saturday Fawkner v Brunswick Zebras at Sumner Park
2.00pm Saturday Altona North v Monash University at Duane Reserve
2.00pm Saturday Lyndale United v Marcellin Old Collegians at Park Avenue Reserve
2.00pm Saturday Wangaratta City v Collingwood City at South Wangaratta Reserve
2.00pm Saturday Laverton Park v Noble Park at Laverton Park Reserve
2.00pm Saturday Lalor United v Twin City Wanderers at HR Uren Reserve
2.00pm Saturday Whitehorse United v Boronia at Egan Lee Reserve
2.00pm Saturday St Kevins Old Boys v Gisborne at Dixon Field Reserve
3.00pm Saturday East Brighton United v Surf Coast at Banyul Warri Reserve
3.00pm Saturday Upfield v Sebastopol Vikings at Gibb Reserve
3.00pm Saturday Sandringham v Melton Phoenix at MacPherson Park
3.00pm Saturday Glenroy Lions v West Point at Wallace Reserve
3.00pm Saturday Moonee Valley Knights v Keilor Wolves at Keilor Park Recreation Reserve
3.00pm Saturday Croydon City Arrows v Heidelberg Eagles at Dorset Recreation Reserve
3.00pm Saturday Northern Falcons v Kings Domain at IYU Recreation Reserve
3.00pm Saturday Western Eagles v Melbourne University at Polish Sports Complex
3.00pm Saturday Thornbury Athletic v Mt Lilydale Old Collegians at Mt Lilydale Sporting Complex
3.30pm Saturday Uni Hill Eagles v Craigieburn City at RMIT Bundoora Sports Centre
3.30pm Saturday Healesville v Bunyip District at Prospect Hill Reserve
4.00pm Saturday Buninyong Redbacks v Boroondara Carey Eagles at Morshead Park – synthetic
4.00pm Saturday Yarra Jets v Hampton Park United Sparrows at KM Reedy Reserve
4.00pm Saturday Bell Park v Dandenong South at Bell Park Sports Club
4.00pm Saturday Chelsea v Old Xaverians at Edithvale Recreation Reserve
5.00pm Saturday Waverley Wanderers v Middle Park at Anderson Park
5.00pm Saturday Glen Waverley v Truganina Hornets at Knox Regional Football Centre
5.30pm Saturday Old Camberwell Grammarians v Elwood City at IYU Recreation Reserve
7.30pm Saturday Albert Park v North Melbourne Athletic at Knox Regional Football Centre
12.00pm Sunday Sandown Lions v Knox United at Knox Regional Football Centre
1.00pm Sunday Tatura v Maribyrnong Greens at John McEwen Reserve
1.00pm Sunday Ballarat North United v Watsonia Heights at Morshead Park – synthetic
4.00pm Sunday West Preston v Monash SC at Monash Reserve

Forfeits & BYES advance to round 2 draw:
Bayside Argonauts – advance via forfeit over Plenty Valley Lions
Harrisfield Hurricanes – advance via forfeit over Melbourne City
Lara United – advance via forfeit over Keysborough
Reservoir Yeti – Reservoir Yeti advance via forfeit over Newmarket Phoenix
Mt Waverley – received a BYE
Myrtleford Savoy – advance via forfeit over Riversdale


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thewitness - 21 Feb 2018 11:38 AM
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Walk overs by season:
2014, 41
2015, 17
2016, 25
2017, 22

Plenty Valley Lions after going on a Cup run with Cupsets in 2014, have forfeited every year since including this year. 2015, 2016, 2017 & 2018.

Thanks for that mate. IMO this is how we solve this. Cup needs to start later. This shouldn't be an issue as league fixtures can be organised around the cups. Much like Queensland, have regional rounds to encourage greater participation and less forfeits. It really isn't that hard. I don't see why teams from Mildura need to travel to Melbourne Round 1 or even during the prelim rounds for God sake.


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TheSelectFew - 22 Feb 2018 9:25 AM
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Thanks for that mate. IMO this is how we solve this. Cup needs to start later. This shouldn't be an issue as league fixtures can be organised around the cups. Much like Queensland, have regional rounds to encourage greater participation and less forfeits. It really isn't that hard. I don't see why teams from Mildura need to travel to Melbourne Round 1 or even during the prelim rounds for God sake.

A later start would definitely help, but most of the regional clubs I talk with don't want regional qualifying (at least in NSW and Vic). They don't want to be playing Cup games against teams that they are likely to play against another 2 or 3 times during the year. They enter the Cup knowing it will involve travelling, they know they won't make the round of 32, so what they want out of the Cup is the chance to judge their own quality against teams from the city. I'll have to look this up, but I have a hunch that it's generally city teams being too lazy to travel that leads to most of the forfeits in City vs Country clashes. 
 
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thewitness - 22 Feb 2018 3:12 PM
TheSelectFew - 22 Feb 2018 9:25 AM

A later start would definitely help, but most of the regional clubs I talk with don't want regional qualifying (at least in NSW and Vic). They don't want to be playing Cup games against teams that they are likely to play against another 2 or 3 times during the year. They enter the Cup knowing it will involve travelling, they know they won't make the round of 32, so what they want out of the Cup is the chance to judge their own quality against teams from the city. I'll have to look this up, but I have a hunch that it's generally city teams being too lazy to travel that leads to most of the forfeits in City vs Country clashes. 
 

It needs to be punished and or helped. 

If you make a trip the FFV gives the manager 100 bucks or so, just to start the process and to eatablish a culture of early round travel. 

Otherwise region prelims may be the only other option to encourage more prestigious rounds. I don't see any other way around it.


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SA: 53 have entered 2018 up from 42 last year

so far overall increase of 22 with still ACT, NSW, QLD, NT, numbers to be announced.
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Sunbury United 1-2 Spring Hills

2/2 rounds so far for this cup


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Friday Night:
Chisholm United 0 Noble Park United 3
Ringwood City 1 Greenvale United 0

Saturday:
Darebin United 5 Barwon 3
Dingley Stars 6 Golden Plains 0
RMIT 2 Aspendale 1
Old Trinity Grammarians 1 Dandenong Warriors 3
Springvale City 3 Baxter 0
Sunbury United 1 Spring Hills 2
Point Cook Jets 4 Bundoora United 1
Somerville Eagles 3 Balmoral 2 – AFTER EXTRA TIME
Endeavour United 0 Ashburton United 2
Fawkner v Brunswick Zebras (no score available yet)
Altona North 0 Monash University 1
Lyndale United 0 Marcellin Old Collegians 3
Wangaratta City 3 Collingwood City 1
Laverton Park 4 Noble Park 0
Lalor United 5 Twin City Wanderers 0
Whitehorse United 4 Boronia 0
St Kevins Old Boys 3 Gisborne 1
East Brighton United 7 Surf Coast 3
Upfield 2 Sebastopol Vikings 3
Sandringham 1 Melton Phoenix 2
Glenroy Lions 5 Maidstone United 1
Moonee Valley Knights 1 Keilor Wolves 2
Croydon City Arrows 0 Heidelberg Eagles 2
Northern Falcons 2 Kings Domain 0
Western Eagles 2 Melbourne University 0
Thornbury Athletic 1 Mt Lilydale Old Collegians 2
Healesville 4 Bunyip District 2
Buninyong Redbacks 1 Boroondara Carey Eagles 8
Yarra Jets v Hampton Park United Sparrows (no score available yet)
Bell Park 1 Dandenong South 0
Chelsea 3 Old Xaverians 4
Waverley Wanderers 2 Middle Park 0
Glen Waverley 1 Truganina Hornets 7
Old Camberwell Grammarians 0 Elwood City 1
Albert Park 0 North Melbourne Athletic 3
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23 teams for ACT


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FFA Cup – Victoria Round 2 draw numbers in alphabetical order:
  1. Altona East Phoenix
  2. Ashburton United
  3. Bayside Argonauts
  4. Bell Park
  5. Berwick City
  6. Boroondara Carey Eagles
  7. Brandon Park
  8. Brighton
  9. Brimbank Stallions
  10. Brunswick Zebras
  11. Cairnlea
  12. Corio
  13. Craigieburn City
  14. Dandenong Warriors
  15. Darebin United
  16. Diamond Valley United
  17. Dingley Stars
  18. Doncaster Rovers
  19. Doveton
  20. East Brighton United
  21. Elwood City
  22. Epping City
  23. Essendon United
  24. FC Strathmore
  25. Fitzroy City
  26. Frankston Pines
  27. Geelong Rangers
  28. Glenroy Lions
  29. Harrisfield Hurricanes
  30. Healesville
  31. Heatherton United
  32. Heidelberg Eagles
  33. Heidelberg Stars
  34. Hume United
  35. Keilor Wolves
  36. Knox City
  37. Latrobe University
  38. Lalor United
  39. Lara United
  40. Laverton Park
  41. Marcellin Old Collegians
  42. Mazenod Victory
  43. Melton Phoenix
  44. Mill Park
  45. Monash University
  46. Monbulk Rangers
  47. Mooroolbark
  48. Moreland United
  49. Mt Waverley City
  50. Mt Lilydale Old Collegians
  51. Myrtleford Savoy
  52. Noble Park United
  53. North Caulfield
  54. North Melbourne Athletic
  55. Northern Falcons
  56. Old Scotch
  57. Old Xaverians
  58. Peninsula Strikers
  59. Point Cook Jets
  60. Reservoir Yeti
  61. Ringwood City
  62. RMIT
  63. Sandown Lions
  64. Seaford United
  65. Sebastopol Vikings
  66. Skye United
  67. Somerville Eagles
  68. South Yarra
  69. Spring Hills
  70. Springvale City
  71. St Kevins Old Boys
  72. Tatura
  73. Truganina Hornets
  74. Wangaratta City
  75. Watsonia Heights
  76. Waverley Wanderers
  77. West Preston
  78. Western Eagles
  79. Westgate
  80. Westvale
  81. Whitehorse United
  82. Whittlesea United
  83. Williamstown
  84. Yarra Jets


round 2 draw: Monday February 26th (tomorrow 1.00pm) live on the FFV facebook page
deadline: 1.00pm Wednesday February 28th for dates, venue, kickoff times, to be played next weekend


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FFA Cup – Victoria preliminaries round 2 draw result:
Ringwood City v Reservoir Yeti
North Caulfield v Lalor United
Tatura v West Preston
Western Eagles v Cairnlea
Mt Lilydale Old Collegians v Marcellin Old Collegians
Truganina Hornets v Corio
Geelong Rangers v Doncaster Rovers
Westgate v Darebin United
Northern Falcons v North Melbourne Athletic
Latrobe University v Mooroolbark
Old Scotch v Seaford United
Frankston Pines v Ashburton United
Peninsula Strikers v Waverley Wanderers
Heidelberg Stars v Mill Park
Fitzroy City v Berwick City
Healesville v Brimbank Stallions
Brighton v Melton Phoenix
Altona East Phoenix v Keilor Wolves
Brandon Park v Monash University
Hume United v East Brighton United
Watsonia Heights v Boroondara Carey Eagles
Dingley Stars v Mt Waverley City
Sandown Lions v Old Xaverians
South Yarra v Diamond Valley United
Epping City v Lara United
Spring Hills v Whitehorse United
Sebastopol Vikings v Mazenod United
Yarra Jets v Bayside Argonauts
Doveton v Springvale City
Somerville Eagles v Point Cook Jets
Whittlesea United v Dandenong
Moreland United v Essendon United
Brunswick Zebras v Skye United
Noble Park United v Wangaratta City
Laverton Park v Heidelberg Eagles
Heatherton United v RMIT
Harrisfield Hurricanes v Williamstown
Monbulk Rangers v Westvale
Myrtleford Savoy v Elwood City
St Kevins Old Boys v Craigieburn City
Bell Park v Glenroy Lions
FC Strathmore v Knox City

Ties to be taking place this upcoming weekend between Friday March 2nd-Saturday March 3rd-Sunday March 4th-Monday March 5th with kickoff times and venues to be confirmed must be done by no later than 1.00pm on Wednesday February 28th.
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ACT Round 3
ANU v White Eagles
O'Connor v Weston-Molonglo
Gundaroo v UC Pumas
Burns FC v Cooma
Gungahlin Juventus v Brindabella
Southern Tablelands Utd (New Goulburn Club) v Woden Valley
Queanbeyan City v Narrabundah

BYE to Round 4
Belconnen United
Canberra FC
Canberra Olympic
Gungahlin United
Monaro Panthers
Riverina Rhinos
Tigers FC
Tuggeranong United
Woden-Weston FC
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Brenton1986 - 23 Feb 2018 6:20 PM
SA: 53 have entered 2018 up from 42 last year

so far overall increase of 22 with still ACT, NSW, QLD, NT, numbers to be announced.

ACT with 23 as mentioned earlier, up from 20
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168 clubs from NSW
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NSW has clubs from Southern Branch for the first time. With Bega Devils being the furthest down South. Leeton have joined this year making them the furthest West. Still no Western Branch clubs from a quick glance, also no one from Albury or Griffith.
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119 Association Clubs


Ball #   Club   Association / Competition
1   Abbotsford Juniors FC   Canterbury & District Soccer Football Association Inc
2   Albion Park White Eagles   Football South Coast
3   Ararat FC   Gladesville-Hornsby Football Association
4   Arncliffe Aurora FC   St George Football Association
5   Auburn Football Club Incorporated   Granville & Districts Soccer Football Association Inc
6   Balmain & District Football Club   Canterbury & District Soccer Football Association Inc
7   Banksia Tigers Football Club   St George Football Association
8   Bankstown Dragons   Bankstown District Amateur Football Association
9   Bass Hill RSL Soccer Club   Bankstown District Amateur Football Association
10   Baulkham Hills FC   Hills Football Inc
11   Bega Devils   Far South Coast Football Association
12   Berkeley Vale Soccer Club   Central Coast Football
13   Blue Mountains Football Club   Nepean Football Association Inc.
14   Bomaderry Soccer Club   Shoalhaven District Football Association
15   Bringelly FC   Southern Districts Soccer Football Association
16   Brookvale Football Club   Manly Warringah Football Association Inc
17   Bth Raiders   Manly Warringah Football Association Inc
18   Budgewoi Football Club   Central Coast Football
19   Bulli FC   Football South Coast
20   Callala Brumbies   Shoalhaven District Football Association
21   Carlton Rovers FC   St George Football Association
22   Central Sydney Wolves   Bankstown District Amateur Football Association
23   Chatswood Rangers   Northern Suburbs Football Association
24   Coledale Waves Football Club   Football South Coast
25   Coniston FC   Football South Coast
26   Connells Point Rovers FC   St George Football Association
27   Coogee United Football Club   Eastern Suburbs Football Association
28   Coptic United FC   Hills Football Inc
29   Cranebrook United SC   Nepean Football Association Inc.
30   Cronulla Seagulls FC   Sutherland Shire Football Association Inc.
31   Dee Why Football Club   Manly Warringah Football Association Inc
32   Doonside Hawks Soccer Club   Blacktown District Soccer Football Association
33   East Gosford Football Club   Central Coast Football
34   Emu Plains Football Club   Nepean Football Association Inc.
35   Forest Rangers F.C.   St George Football Association
36   Gerringong Breakers FC   Shoalhaven District Football Association
37   Gladesville Ravens Sports Club   Gladesville-Hornsby Football Association
38   Glebe Gorillas FC   Eastern Suburbs Football Association
39   Glebe Wanderers FC   Eastern Suburbs Football Association
40   Glenhaven Football Club   Hills Football Inc
41   Glenmore Park FC   Nepean Football Association Inc.
42   Granville Kewpie Ariana   Granville & Districts Soccer Football Association Inc
43   Greenacre Eagles   Bankstown District Amateur Football Association
44   Harrington United Football Club   Macarthur Football Association
45   Hazelbrook Football Club   Nepean Football Association Inc.
46   Helensburgh Thistle Soccer Club   Football South Coast
47   Henwood Park FC   Football Wagga Wagga
48   Hills Hawks FC   Gladesville-Hornsby Football Association
49   Holroyd Rangers Soccer Club   Granville & Districts Soccer Football Association Inc
50   Hornsby Height Football Club   Northern Suburbs Football Association
51   Hurstville Glory   St George Football Association
52   Kariong United Football Club   Central Coast Football
53   Kellyville Kolts   Hills Football Inc
54   Kenthurst and District Football Club   Hills Football Inc
55   Killarney District SC   Central Coast Football
56   Kirrawee Kangaroos FC   Sutherland Shire Football Association Inc.
57   Kogarah Waratah FC   St George Football Association
58   Lake Albert Soccer Club   Football Wagga Wagga
59   Lane Cove Football Club   Northern Suburbs Football Association
60   Leeton United Football Club   Football Wagga Wagga
61   Leichhardt Saints Football Club   Canterbury & District Soccer Football Association Inc
62   Leichhardt Tigers Juniors   Canterbury & District Soccer Football Association Inc
63   Lilli Pilli Football Club   Sutherland Shire Football Association Inc.
64   Lindfield Football Club   Northern Suburbs Football Association
65   Lokomotiv Cove FC   Eastern Suburbs Football Association
66   Lugarno Football Club   St George Football Association
67   Marayong Football Club   Blacktown District Soccer Football Association
68   Maroubra United Football Club   Eastern Suburbs Football Association
69   Menai Hawks Football Club   Sutherland Shire Football Association Inc.
70   Minchinbury Jets Soccer Club   Blacktown District Soccer Football Association
71   Mosman FC   Manly Warringah Football Association Inc
72   Mt Annan Mustangs Football Club   Macarthur Football Association
73   Narellan Rangers SC   Macarthur Football Association
74   North Epping Rangers   Gladesville-Hornsby Football Association
75   North Ryde Soccer Club   Gladesville-Hornsby Football Association
76   North Sydney United   Northern Suburbs Football Association
77   Northbridge FC   Northern Suburbs Football Association
78   Norwest FC   Hills Football Inc
79   Padstow Hornets FC   Bankstown District Amateur Football Association
80   Pagewood Botany FC   Eastern Suburbs Football Association
81   Parklea Soccer Football Club   Blacktown District Soccer Football Association
82   Parramatta City FC   Granville & Districts Soccer Football Association Inc
83   Peakhurst United FC   St George Football Association
84   Pendle Hill FC   Granville & Districts Soccer Football Association Inc
85   Pennant Hills FC   Gladesville-Hornsby Football Association
86   Penrith Rovers Football Club   Nepean Football Association Inc.
87   Phoenix FC   Eastern Suburbs Football Association
88   Port Kembla Football Club   Football South Coast
89   Putney Rangers FC   Gladesville-Hornsby Football Association
90   Quakers Hill Junior Soccer Club   Blacktown District Soccer Football Association
91   Randwick City FC   Eastern Suburbs Football Association
92   Redbacks FC   Gladesville-Hornsby Football Association
93   Revesby Rovers   Bankstown District Amateur Football Association
94   Revesby Workers FC   Bankstown District Amateur Football Association
95   Ryde Saints United Football Club   Gladesville-Hornsby Football Association
96   Sans Souci FC   St George Football Association
97   St Patrick’s Football Club   Gladesville-Hornsby Football Association
98   Strathfield Football Club   Canterbury & District Soccer Football Association Inc
99   Sydney CBD FC   Eastern Suburbs Football Association
100   Sydney Dragon FC   Granville & Districts Soccer Football Association Inc
101   Sydney North West FC   Hills Football Inc
102   Sydney Rangers Football Club   Canterbury & District Soccer Football Association Inc
103   Tarrawanna Blueys SC   Football South Coast
104   Terrigal United Football Club   Central Coast Football
105   The Entrance Bateau Bay FC   Central Coast Football
106   The Ponds FC   Blacktown District Soccer Football Association
107   Tolland FC   Football Wagga Wagga
108   Toukley Gorokan Football Club   Central Coast Football
109   Tumut Eagles   Football Wagga Wagga
110   Waverley Old Boys FC   Eastern Suburbs Football Association
111   West Pennant Hills Cherrybrook Football Club   Gladesville-Hornsby Football Association
112   White City Soccer Club   Southern Districts Soccer Football Association
113   Winston Hills Football Club   Hills Football Inc
114   Wollongong Olympic FC   Football South Coast
115   Wollongong United Football Club   Football South Coast
116   Woongarrah Wildcats Football Club   Central Coast Football
117   Woy Woy FC   Central Coast Football
118   Wyoming Football Club   Central Coast Football
119   Yagoona Lions Football Club   Bankstown District Amateur Football Association
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FNSW Round 2 & 3 draw is this Wednesday 28th at 12:30
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thewitness - 26 Feb 2018 8:08 PM
168 clubs from NSW

up 21 on last year.

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thewitness - 26 Feb 2018 8:15 PM
NSW has clubs from Southern Branch for the first time. With Bega Devils being the furthest down South. Leeton have joined this year making them the furthest West. Still no Western Branch clubs from a quick glance, also no one from Albury or Griffith.

Don't think there will be any from Albury or Griffith (particularly the latter), while the Rhinos and Murray United are around
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thewitness - 21 Feb 2018 8:21 PM
Some of the forfeits are distance based, but a lot of them are because clubs that far down the pyramid in Victoria just don't have the players available in February. As entry is compulsory down to State League 5, a lot of clubs at that level are pretty social, they haven't even started pre season training yet and quite a few players are still committed to Summer sports. The actual start of the season is still over a month away.

Yes this is exactly why my former team can never enter. we never get enough players until 3 weeks before the season starts which doesnt start unil april
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NicCarBel - 27 Feb 2018 3:38 PM
thewitness - 26 Feb 2018 8:15 PM

Don't think there will be any from Albury or Griffith (particularly the latter), while the Rhinos and Murray United are around

We get Twin City Wanderers from Wodonga always entering via FFV, despite Murray United being around. Also Myrtleford, Wangaratta and Cobram also from the Albury League. We also have 5 clubs from Football Wagga (ok one of those is Leeton), even with the Wagga City Wanderers being the rough equivalent of the Rhinos and Murray.
You probably have the best info of anyone here, why don't Hanwood enter, if they want to leave the Griffith comp so much, at least the FFA Cup would provide some opportunities until the Wagga clubs see their senses and let them in there.     
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thewitness - 27 Feb 2018 4:40 PM
NicCarBel - 27 Feb 2018 3:38 PM

We get Twin City Wanderers from Wodonga always entering via FFV, despite Murray United being around. Also Myrtleford, Wangaratta and Cobram also from the Albury League. We also have 5 clubs from Football Wagga (ok one of those is Leeton), even with the Wagga City Wanderers being the rough equivalent of the Rhinos and Murray.
You probably have the best info of anyone here, why don't Hanwood enter, if they want to leave the Griffith comp so much, at least the FFA Cup would provide some opportunities until the Wagga clubs see their senses and let them in there.     

I don't think Hanwood want to go by themselves. They'd want someone like Yoogali to go with them. And while the rest of the GDFA Clubs are in bed with the Rhinos, ain't going to happen.
Plus, for some reason, the Griffith clubs don't mind entering the State cup (Bill Culinan Trophy, I think is what its exactly called), but not the proper STATE CUP (Waratah Cup) that counts towards the FFA Cup. Beats me as to why, and what exactly the point of the two different competitions are nowadays.
The players that really do want to test themselves and be the best in Griffith are either in the Rhinos, or Hanwood. And by 'the best' being at Hanwood, its more that they see themselves as the best, not that they actually are. They still lost the Grand Final and only topped the table by 3 points. I always thought they would enter the Waratah Cup over the Bill Cullinan Cup once the FFA Cup began, but alas, they haven't.
But, I'm actually glad to hear that I stand corrected re: Wagga and Albury clubs not entering. Well, I thought Wagga did, but I wasn't sure about Albury.
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NicCarBel - 27 Feb 2018 5:14 PM
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I don't think Hanwood want to go by themselves. They'd want someone like Yoogali to go with them. And while the rest of the GDFA Clubs are in bed with the Rhinos, ain't going to happen.
Plus, for some reason, the Griffith clubs don't mind entering the State cup (Bill Culinan Trophy, I think is what its exactly called), but not the proper STATE CUP (Waratah Cup) that counts towards the FFA Cup. Beats me as to why, and what exactly the point of the two different competitions are nowadays.
The players that really do want to test themselves and be the best in Griffith are either in the Rhinos, or Hanwood. And by 'the best' being at Hanwood, its more that they see themselves as the best, not that they actually are. They still lost the Grand Final and only topped the table by 3 points. I always thought they would enter the Waratah Cup over the Bill Cullinan Cup once the FFA Cup began, but alas, they haven't.
But, I'm actually glad to hear that I stand corrected re: Wagga and Albury clubs not entering. Well, I thought Wagga did, but I wasn't sure about Albury.

The Albury clubs (those North of the border and under FNSW jurisdiction) still haven't entered, I guess they think Sydney is just to far away.
Maybe Leeton entering the FFA Cup this year might be enough to tempt the Griffith guys in next year. I've noticed the Griffith clubs still liking the Bill Cullinan Cup, maybe they prefer this because they are a chance of winning it (well were before the Rhinos took most of the best players). The chance of getting a bigger club down to Griffith again should be attractive though. Wagga City have been knocked out by Marconi and Wollongong Wolves in the last few years, both away, but to draw one of those former NSL clubs at home would be the biggest thing in town (football wise) in ages.    
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FNSW draw is 12:30pm today. I think they are releasing the full draw so NPL clubs can work out who they potentially may face in the later rounds.
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SutherlandFan - 28 Feb 2018 10:50 AM
FNSW draw is 12:30pm today. I think they are releasing the full draw so NPL clubs can work out who they potentially may face in the later rounds.

From my understanding it was only going to be round 2 & 3 today (not like previous years). I think they may have seen the success of the other states round by round draws at attracting Facebook viewer numbers. The Draw allocation numbers only go up to NPL 3 clubs
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