FFA is Lowy, that's the whole point

Board is all Lowys mates

Gallop is paid by Lowy to do what Lowys Board pay him

and FFA have justspent a Motza flying themselves to Amman to promote their Womens WC Bid

http://footballtoday.news/features/ffa-in-numbers-at-womens-asian-cup

They're spending whatever they can whilst they've got the chance.

Finally, as one source remarked: ‘When will the Australians realise we won’t take them seriously until they sort out their own mess?’By that, they mean the FFA Congress. Seventeen days after FIFA announced the terms of reference and membership of the Congress Review Working Group, nothing has been heard other than to confirm the individuals representing the A-League clubs (Greg Griffin and Simon Pearce) and the member federations (Kimon Taliadoros, Sam Ciccarello, Anter Isaac and Liam Twigger). This group’s first task, together with the FFA Board and PFA representatives is to “unanimously” agree on a chairperson for the working group. Time is ticking-by. There are 102 days remaining in which to report a majority view to FIFA and AFC on the composition of the FFA Congress. 

Why would the FIFA appointed chair (if it gets that far) favour the CFG view?  I'd expect the FIFA appointee would support the FIFA view which the way I read it is not what the elite clubs want but a much bigger Congress that the clubs can't control like they did with football for 45 years before Lowy was brought in.

I read it as they want a balanced congress where one party can not DICTATE the way forward.  Is the current congress not setup so the Lowy group can vote down anything that they don't like weather it be good for football in Ozz or not?

Neither the FFA model nor the APFCA model were compliant with the FIFA representative democracy model in my view.  Both were an attempt to control football.  In the FFA case it was them and the states controlling and in the APFCA case it was a return to them and FNSW and FFV effectively controlling as it was for decades before the new regime.  In my view neither understand that Congress is not really about votes but about the voices of football being heard and listened to and major directional decisions being made in the best interest of football by consensus and by approbation on the voices. Its not meant to be adversarial but its become that here because of un-dealt with distrust and disrespect that are the marque of our football culture developed over decades.

i was being cynical about the agenda of FIFA. which to be fair is historically corrupted by the influence of money.  CFG has a lot of influence with FIFA.  and I get that ideally the congress should operate as you have mentioned - with a kind of utopian dream of giving a voice to the masses and being inclusive of all parties. but this is not what is going to happen.

the chair is likely going to be the vote the swings decisions one way or the other.  and in this case it seems that the FFA and their supporters are essentially doing the lowy family/westfield bidding and the APFCA are basically driven by CFG interests - which happen to align with the mood of a lot of the FFA opposition.

My point is that I think the appointee will probably support FIFA's agenda which will be more likely tilted towards the interests of CFG.  

Personally I would prefer that the foreign ownership of clubs didnt take control of the game, but our current system is fucked and being used as a trophy room for the lowy family.

15 Member associations’ statutes
Member associations’ statutes must comply with the principles of good governance, and shall in particular contain,
at a minimum, provisions relating to the following matters
:a) to be neutral in matters of politics and religion;
b) to prohibit all forms of discrimination
;c) to be independent and avoid any form of political interference
;d) to ensure that judicial bodies are independent (separation of powers)
;e) all relevant stakeholders must agree to respect the Laws of the Game,the principles of loyalty, integrity, sportsmanship and fair play as well as the Statutes, regulations and decisions of FIFA and of the respective confederation
;f) all relevant stakeholders must agree to recognise the jurisdiction and authority of CAS and give priority to arbitration as a means of dispute resolution
;g) that the member association has the primary responsibility to regulate matters relating to refereeing, the fight against doping, the registrationI I. Membership 14 of players, club licensing, the imposition of disciplinary measures, including for ethical misconduct, and measures required to protect the integrity of competitions
;h) definition of the competences of the decision-making bodies
;i) to avoid conflicts of interests in decision-making
;j) legislative bodies must be constituted in accordance with the principles of representative democracy and taking into account the importance of gender equality in football
and
; k) yearly independent audits of accounts.

j) is what neither the FFA nor the APFCA model complied with.

APFCA wanted
FFA Membership based on a nine (Federation Reps), six (A-League Club Reps), two (PFA Reps)  
and I presume the FFA board. and Gollop?

@ blew.2

In a nutshell the ffa and AAPFC were fighting over control not meeting FIFAs democratic requirements.

The FFA/Lowy wanted enough votes under their control so they could vote anyone of their choosing on to the FFA Board which controls football.

AAPFC’s didn’t want quite the same thing, they wanted enough votes to veto any nominations to the FFA Board (but not actually enough to vote anyone on).

Neither meet FIFAs requirements.

Right now Lowy and his legal cohorts are trying to figure out how they can seem to comply with FIFAs requirements AND retain control. A seemingly impossible task but this is Australia and we are a corrupt nation!

I think thats 1000000000000% true.

Amazing how the FFA can keep a lid on this topic with out sending the media into a feeding frenzy 

definition of the competences of the decision-making bodies
;i) to avoid conflicts of interests in decision-making

2 parts of Article 15 the FFA CEO ans A-League CEO are struggling along with 
j) legislative bodies must be constituted in accordance with the principles of representative democracy and taking into account the importance of gender equality in football 

Quietly awaiting Mr G to release his official decision on the sale meeting between Wgtn and WS Expansion group with a copy of the sale agreement

MEDIA missing out on an upset here 

When will they appoint a independent chair. Starting to become a black comedy. Soon it could become a Shakespearean tragedy.    

Agreed FIFA need to get their arse into gear .It has been slowing down the AAFCs work as well .however AAFC has made announcements that they have finalised their workshops released their findings and are looking at financial models.

The announcement to form the committee was on 4 April, so counting the 4th as a day as well, thats 27 days in April, its 20 May today.

Thats 47 days on Tuesday its 7 weeks, looks from the outside getting everyone to agree the chair is impossible as each group would have their own preference.

We are starting to look a laughing stock, this is embarrassing. 

It's in no ones agenda for this to fail. We need a pyramid yesterday. Expansion won't happen either at this rate.

We will eventually get to a normalisation committee and FIFA will take over. Its getting ridiculous. 

You need (Not NZ needs/to small a market but TV needs our time slot) a sustainable A-League first and foremost, 12 teams ok. Then you need a good 2 tier structure on a solid Pro/Amateur base.
Both either totally independent or board run including an FFA member.  Then once both are working introduce Promotion and Relegation  with a drop support $ allocation.  
But your old boys club (FFA) will fight it all the way because the current system is easy finance for them! 

I'm interested in what you mean by "totally independent".  FIFA requires all leagues in Australia to be subordinate to the FFA and to comply with all FIFA, AFC and FFA statutes, regulations, decisions and instructions.  They also give the FFA responsibility to run all national competitions but the FFA can delegate  their authority to a league to run their competition.  Thats normally done by a binding agreement being reached between the two parties governing how the league is to be operated etc.  Does this arrangement meet your definition of "totally independent" or do you mean that the league is free to do what it wants?

Why is 12 teams sustainable ?

if 12 teams ain't sustainable, then we're in bigger trouble than we thought

Because FFA will have committed to 12 teams before CRWG  get a decision.  You people will have a fit if once confirmed the APFCA go back on it.

Who are "You people" ?

Ok wrong time of day to response - But i WILL.
Promotion - Relegation (people)   who want it at any cost. (Edited)

Have we a decider
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/former-grand-prix-ceo-lead-ffa-reform-041938231--spt.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

2 TV channels have broadcast F1 in Australia -Ten and Fox. Was Fox the broadcaster during the ladies rien in F1 Oz?

She seems a decent choice

Whats your point?

If promotion Relegation comes too early and the ground work is not done for a sustainable HAL and 2nd tier to stand alone without P/R. Then they will need to develop a drop down subsidy(parachute payment) to cover wages.(I doubt 2nd tier could survive fully professional)  You will get a team coming down with players on 2+ year contracts.(And club will have to carry the wage bill for 1 + years) The first year a team is promoted they may well come straight down and then under financed carry wages for 1+ years after that. (So collapse of clubs may well happen)    IMHO the 2nd tier will need 2 plus years to develop if implemented. But IMHO, only a simple fan, looking EPL for bad or worse  https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/premier-league-parachute-payments-exclusive-study-football-league-finance-money-a8255976.html