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APFCA Welcomes Appointment of Judith Griggs as Chairperson of the CRWG



On the 11th May 2018, the eight members of the Congress Review Working Group (CRWG) formally submitted to FIFA the unanimous decision that they wished Judith Griggs to be the Chairperson of the CRWG and requested that FIFA undertake its eligibility check of Ms. Griggs and, subject to her passing that check, formally proceed with her appointment as CRWG Independent Chair.

On 28th May 2018, following conclusion of the FIFA eligibility check, the Chairman of the FIFA Review Committee declared her eligible for the position of Chairperson of the CRWG.

Furthermore, on 29th May 2018, Ms. Griggs met with representatives of the FIFA administration in Zurich and it was agreed that she would assume responsibilities as Chairperson of the CRWG as per its terms of reference with immediate effect.

She has committed to communicating next steps to all members of the CRWG in the coming days.

Commenting on the confirmation of Judith Griggs as the CRWG Independent Chairperson, APFCA Chairman and CEO and Congress Review Working Group Member Greg Griffin said, “Judith Griggs’ appointment is testament to both her capabilities and track record.   

The CRWG process is all the stronger for her participation and stewardship.” 

He added: “Clearly achieving consensus among the CRWG on this important matter bodes well for what the Group might achieve in delivering against the terms of reference set by FIFA.”

https://apfca.com.au/apfca-welcomes-appointment-of-judith-griggs-as-chairperson-of-the-crwg/



Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Waz - 24 May 2018 1:16 PM
It’s been so long I can’t remember what questions this committee were meant to address? The makeup of congress yes plus operation of the HAL, second division and diversity of representation?? The big question is how long can the current Board survive for, gone by July or will it take until November to spill them?

 





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Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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It’s been so long I can’t remember what questions this committee were meant to address? The makeup of congress yes plus operation of the HAL, second division and diversity of representation??

The big question is how long can the current Board survive for, gone by July or will it take until November to spill them?
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sokorny - 24 May 2018 10:40 AM
SWandP - 23 May 2018 11:29 PM

This is NOT a P/R discussion thread ... the rhetoric around that discussion can be had on at least twenty other current threads at the moment. Please don't derail this into a P/R thread ... the issue is discussed ad nausea on here, and we simply go around in circles for 20 odd pages before a new thread starts and the cycle repeats. As detailed the working group is NOT about P/R, so please go else where to discuss such matters.

The issue that needs to be addressed as a matter of priority is the congress. P/R is an issue that FIFA wants addresses but not as primary issue. 
The make-up of the congress as being more representatives is the primary issue and that there is not a single group that can dominant the congress. FIFA also wants more representation for women and other football entities (non-state federations and HAL clubs) such as futsal (why else would the FFA defunded futsal?).
P/R needed a definitive timeline like 10-20 years but is secondary. The other concern is the A-League and whether it is partially or wholly independent. The problem with the A-League is the franchise model instituted by the FFA. 

What is lost in all of this is that the FFA is supposed to be custodians of football in Australia. However, they treat football as if they own the game.
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SWandP - 23 May 2018 11:29 PM
TheSelectFew - 23 May 2018 8:49 PM

I have no idea what you are on about.  As usual.

I am not justifying anything.  I am just greatly amused by the ridiculous focus on something that is totally irrelevant until you have enough professional teams to not only need it, but to actually make it possible.  

IF somebody could ever explain to me how you could implement P&R without producing two or three times the number of professional footballers playing in this country for ready cash, I would be more than a little fascinated.  I'm not talking about good players or anything like that. Just hacks with their hand out for pizza money will do.  Money, money, money makes the world go round. 

The 442 cheer squad are up for giving it all to the existing leeches (sorry A League Clubs) and knowing that their big plan is to suck money straight from the bank accounts of any new aspirants to the league, followed by much pilfering of the greater game......well yeah.  Good luck with P&R because the line for expansion will get short quickly if that shit comes to pass.

I want a second division.  I want it to be made up of real clubs (in the main anyway).  When, and only when you can solve that glaring problem, can you start work on the intricacies of integration with the glee League that we have now.  The hilarious thing is that the only guy with clout that I've heard come out and say publicly that we should have a second division and future P&R is Stephen Fuckn Lowy.  Weird huh?





This is NOT a P/R discussion thread ... the rhetoric around that discussion can be had on at least twenty other current threads at the moment. Please don't derail this into a P/R thread ... the issue is discussed ad nausea on here, and we simply go around in circles for 20 odd pages before a new thread starts and the cycle repeats. As detailed the working group is NOT about P/R, so please go else where to discuss such matters.
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inala brah - 24 May 2018 10:32 AM
asanchez - 24 May 2018 12:10 AM

fifa hasn't approved the chair yet have they?  it's an option put forward by all members of the RWG. the first step.

I just cannot see the ffa nominating or being ok with anyone that they don't have some sway over.  there is no conspiracy.  the lowy family want control of the game. they have hoarded the ffa. they will do anything to keep it.  it just plainly obvious.  



Irrelevant in the working group as the chair is a neutral party (a mediator) if you like. They don't need to know anything about football, the political in fighting (which affects football at all levels in Australia) etc. etc. all their role will be is to ensure everyone is heard, everyone agrees on an outcome ... that is their purpose. The best outcome would be that none of the parties are happy with the outcome ... that means a compromise was reached.
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asanchez - 24 May 2018 12:10 AM
She’s good mates with Ron Walker obviously from her F1 days. And Mr. Ron Walker is good mates with a certain F Lowy, just saying! Cue the conspiracy theories... Did anyone really think FIFA was gonna sort this mess???

fifa hasn't approved the chair yet have they?  it's an option put forward by all members of the RWG. the first step.

I just cannot see the ffa nominating or being ok with anyone that they don't have some sway over.  there is no conspiracy.  the lowy family want control of the game. they have hoarded the ffa. they will do anything to keep it.  it just plainly obvious.  




 




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Brian Blessed - 23 May 2018 3:54 PM
NOW WHAT HAPPENS
That's more like it.


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jaymz - 24 May 2018 12:45 AM
SWandP - 23 May 2018 5:06 PM

But P&R and all the other issues in the game isn't what the working group is established for. Its been established purely to work out the amount of seats in the new congress.

Once the new congress is in place, then the other issues get looked at by that congress. Best we can hope for is NPL clubs to get a seat at the congress and they will be able to push 2nd div, P&R etc.

Err....that's what I was saying.  I must be getting way too subtle.

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bohemia - 24 May 2018 12:33 AM
whatever links there are to lowy would be through the late ron walker

Ron Walker was on the original ffa board chaired by Frank Lowy in 2005. So who knows if she has any influence from the Lowys.
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SWandP - 23 May 2018 5:06 PM
There's going to be howls of derision when the penny drops that there will not be a single mention of P&R or salary caps in two months of talks.

But P&R and all the other issues in the game isn't what the working group is established for. Its been established purely to work out the amount of seats in the new congress.

Once the new congress is in place, then the other issues get looked at by that congress. Best we can hope for is NPL clubs to get a seat at the congress and they will be able to push 2nd div, P&R etc.

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whatever links there are to lowy would be through the late ron walker
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She’s good mates with Ron Walker obviously from her F1 days. And Mr. Ron Walker is good mates with a certain F Lowy, just saying!
Cue the conspiracy theories...
Did anyone really think FIFA was gonna sort this mess???


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Baby steps people.

Let's give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she is independent? F1 experience doesn't equate to football but it could have been worse.
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inala brah - 23 May 2018 11:33 PM
what connection does frank lowy have to f1 or bernie ecclestone?

He drives a car?
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what connection does frank lowy have to f1 or bernie ecclestone?

 




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TheSelectFew - 23 May 2018 8:49 PM
SWandP - 23 May 2018 5:06 PM

Football is worse for the lack of p&r. You can justify the current state anyway you want.

I have no idea what you are on about.  As usual.

I am not justifying anything.  I am just greatly amused by the ridiculous focus on something that is totally irrelevant until you have enough professional teams to not only need it, but to actually make it possible.  

IF somebody could ever explain to me how you could implement P&R without producing two or three times the number of professional footballers playing in this country for ready cash, I would be more than a little fascinated.  I'm not talking about good players or anything like that. Just hacks with their hand out for pizza money will do.  Money, money, money makes the world go round. 

The 442 cheer squad are up for giving it all to the existing leeches (sorry A League Clubs) and knowing that their big plan is to suck money straight from the bank accounts of any new aspirants to the league, followed by much pilfering of the greater game......well yeah.  Good luck with P&R because the line for expansion will get short quickly if that shit comes to pass.

I want a second division.  I want it to be made up of real clubs (in the main anyway).  When, and only when you can solve that glaring problem, can you start work on the intricacies of integration with the glee League that we have now.  The hilarious thing is that the only guy with clout that I've heard come out and say publicly that we should have a second division and future P&R is Stephen Fuckn Lowy.  Weird huh?





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Gyfox - 23 May 2018 11:16 PM
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Is the CRWG working on structure of football?  I don't see it in the mandate they were given by FIFA.  Their main purpose is to work on widening the Congress.  Separate issues are a pathway to a new governance structure for the A-League, the inclusion of women at all levels in the governance of football, the independence of the board etc.

I understand that but the structure of new board will determine how they move in the future...

I don't want P & R rushed and introduced too early, but I don't want the system so difficult we finish up with an MLS type model...
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SWandP - 23 May 2018 5:06 PM

To me neither the A-L clubs, FFA nor the PFA want P & R within the foreseeable future we need the state Feds to stop an MLS type structure being established. 

Is the CRWG working on structure of football?  I don't see it in the mandate they were given by FIFA.  Their main purpose is to work on widening the Congress.  Separate issues are a pathway to a new governance structure for the A-League, the inclusion of women at all levels in the governance of football, the independence of the board etc.
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For anyone with an interest in it and has a mega amount of time this is a link from a USA Football forum on P & R.

Its mega to the power of mega size just over two years old and still getting many daily posts... it will show the arguments we have to beat to get P & R.

Enjoy nay this is hard 15.5 k posts over two years and growing by the day..

http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/the-all-encompassing-pro-rel-thread-on-soccer-in-the-usa.2029961



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blows my mind that that fifa didnt have to step in on this one.

is this actually progress? it feels like the first time the ffa have conceded anything in this whole process.  she must be connected to the lowys somehow.

 




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SWandP - 23 May 2018 5:06 PM
There's going to be howls of derision when the penny drops that there will not be a single mention of P&R or salary caps in two months of talks.

To me neither the A-L clubs, FFA nor the PFA want P & R within the foreseeable future we need the state Feds to stop an MLS type structure being established. 
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Waz - 23 May 2018 3:57 PM
16,983Km .... that’s how far you have to go to escape Lowy’s reach 😂But this looks a good choice.

lol but true
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SWandP - 23 May 2018 5:06 PM
There's going to be howls of derision when the penny drops that there will not be a single mention of P&R or salary caps in two months of talks.

Football is worse for the lack of p&r. You can justify the current state anyway you want.


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SWandP - 23 May 2018 5:06 PM
There's going to be howls of derision when the penny drops that there will not be a single mention of P&R or salary caps in two months of talks.

Baby steps


Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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There's going to be howls of derision when the penny drops that there will not be a single mention of P&R or salary caps in two months of talks.

P&R will fix it 2.0
P&R will fix it 2.0
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Never had anything to do with Football as far as I can see (or any real sport)

Doesn't fill me with confidence TBH

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Finally a decision has been made. Let the countdown begin. July 31st can't come soon enough.
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Melbcityguy - 23 May 2018 3:54 PM
NOW WHAT HAPPENS

They get together and talk about some stuff and things. Then they get together and talk about things and stuff. They keep doing that until they can agree on how the congress should be formed among, governance of the HAL, female representation, etc...
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