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+x+x+xWe may not be producing robots but there is an argument that we are producing super technical midgets caletti: 5ft 4 arzani 5ft 7 mcgree 5ft 10 pasquali 5ft 9 Maradona 5 feet 4 Pele 5 feet 8 Messi 5ft 7 Iniesta 5 ft 7 Bobby Charlton 5 ft 7 Ryan Giggs 5 feet 9 Wayne Rooney 5 feet 10 Neymar 5 feet 9 Luca Modric 5 ft 8.....I could go on for days ...not bad for a bunch of " midgets " This is why many of the Northern European and Eastern European teams will never win anything. They select too many big players in their teams - unlike the stars listed above. Few are sufficiently nimble, and have the ability to change direction quickly when the ball is on the deck. What a load of shit
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What’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets.
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+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. Very tall, they are the 6th tallest nation while the Dutch are 1st. Surprised how they managed to be a competent footballing nation, it boggles the mind.
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+x. For example we were told at our first meeting with the head body that all teams under 13 to 15 must do game training sessions that followed a very strict structure of passing practice, positioning game (small sided game basically) game training and training game. There was no room for specific skill based training like 1v1s, shooting, crossing etc, This was all to be learned and mastered in the SAP. I was personally horrified but that was to be and we would be audited on its implementation. This is a profound point of differentiation between the Dutch KNVB and the FFA NC. Whether this is the Spanish, German or French influence on the FFA NC, I'm not sure? I suspect it is Spanish, because we've viewed many videos of Barca and Spain as the mooted paradigm of exemplary practice in FFA Regional Conferences and coaching courses. The Dutch considered that a player's technical training should be improving from the moment a player takes up football, right up to when they retire. The biggest mistake made by the FFA NC in comparison, and I'm sure agreement would be unequivocal amongst any other teachers reading this, is that some aspect of technical acquisition should have been acquired at an earlier age for some players. What if it hasn't been acquired? This is very rigid thinking - in this facet of FFA NC methodology. It is also the antithesis of most of the rest of the curriculum. The Dutch KNVB also advance that a team needs a strong defence as a foundation and the rest should follow - proficient midfield build ups and attacking interplay. The FFA NC isn't like this. It should be IMO. The focus is immediately on Possession in the FFA NC. The two philosophies are manifest in BVM's approach with the Socceroos on the one hand, and Ange's approach on the other. BVM is much more a product of the KNVB, whilst Ange is the most extreme version of the FFA NC philosophy. People reading this will have ideas about which approach they prefer. What the FFA NC did in the C Licence, was really focus on body shape/ body position, and work on specific ideas for players to support the ball carrier in Ball Possession. The theory was manifest in KNVB for this facet of play, but the FFA NC worked specifically and systematically in developing this aspect of build ups from the back. What occurred in Ron's epoch as Australian TD was so simplistic and underwhelming compared to the aforementioned. Nevertheless our current finishing and attacking interplay in the Attacking Third of the pitch needs to improve immeasurably to bring it into line with everything else.
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+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The German squad which won the last world cup only had one player smaller than 5'11 in Lahm. The majority of the squad were well over 6 ft. This is for the starting lineup btw
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+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The Germans are a powerhouse. They still have a few shorter players in their ranks. Not one of the Northern European and Eastern European plodders.
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+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The German squad which won the last world cup only had one player smaller than 5'11 in Lahm. The majority of the squad were well over 6 ft. This is for the starting lineup btw What about Ozul? There was also a shortish striker who scored against us in the Confed Cup, whose name escapes me.
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+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The Germans are a powerhouse. They still have a few shorter players in their ranks. Not one of the Northern European and Eastern European plodders. Ye because Forsberg, Eriksen, Milinkovic Savic, Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic and countless others are all useless plodders. Fuck me you chat so much shit
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+x+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The German squad which won the last world cup only had one player smaller than 5'11 in Lahm. The majority of the squad were well over 6 ft. This is for the starting lineup btw What about Ozul? There was also a shortish striker who scored against us in the Confed Cup, whose name escapes me. Ozil isn't small, he is 6 ft.
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Zlatan says hi.
Height is one of the most useless and misleading stats in football.
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+xZlatan says hi. Height is one of the most useless and misleading stats in football. Hej Zlatan., Heja Zverige!
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+x+x+x+xWe may not be producing robots but there is an argument that we are producing super technical midgets caletti: 5ft 4 arzani 5ft 7 mcgree 5ft 10 pasquali 5ft 9 Maradona 5 feet 4 Pele 5 feet 8 Messi 5ft 7 Iniesta 5 ft 7 Bobby Charlton 5 ft 7 Ryan Giggs 5 feet 9 Wayne Rooney 5 feet 10 Neymar 5 feet 9 Luca Modric 5 ft 8.....I could go on for days ...not bad for a bunch of " midgets " This is why many of the Northern European and Eastern European teams will never win anything. They select too many big players in their teams - unlike the stars listed above. Few are sufficiently nimble, and have the ability to change direction quickly when the ball is on the deck. Decentric, with respect, that's a load of crap. Most Northern European and Eastern European countries will struggle to win much because it's bloody competitive and they tend to have relatively small populations. It's got nothing to do with what you're saying. They don't select big footballers for the sake of selecting big footballers. They select who's good (big, small or whatever) and then a strategy in place which they think will work for them. You're too blinkered by preconceived ideas about height. Being taller than 6 feet does not, necessarily, mean a footballer can't be fast and agile. Let's consider some of the most technically gifted footballers ever who are also fast and agile. Cristiano Ronaldo and Thierry Henry are two of the most technically gifted, fast and agile football players of recent years. They're 1.85m and 1.88m respectively. Consider tennis. Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic are considered two of the fast and most agile on the men's tour; 1.88m and 1.90m respectively. As we speak, Sweden have made it to the quarter finals of the World Cup, playing better than Australia ever have done and keeping clean sheets recently (in COMPETITIVE matches) against Italy, South Korea, Mexico and Switzerland. To put it into context, when did Australia last keep a clean sheet in a World Cup match? Sweden's lack of technical quality will show in the next few games, as will Russia's. They are the last of the plodders, devoid of sufficient quantity of quality highly proficient technical players with the ball on the deck - ball carrying, 1v1 evasion skills, slick first touch. If one looks at the Brazilian team, or Mexican team, most of their players have these qualities. This is a great difference where many people in Australia overly adulate nearly all European football. Outside the powerhouses, most of the European nations who play football are little better than us, and, I'd surmise have domestic leagues little better, apart from a couple of powerhouse teams. In FFA coach education the world powerhouses clearly stand out from the others. Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland, Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina can be defined as powerhouses given the consistent ability over time to qualify for senior and youth WCs, and whose cattle consistently play big five football over a sustained period. ATM one can add Portugal, England, Croatia and Belgium, who at this point in time, meet these criteria. Outside these teams, few have any realistic prospect of going late into tournaments, apart from causing a few upsets - often with a great deal of luck.
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+x+xZlatan says hi. Height is one of the most useless and misleading stats in football. Hej Zlatan., Heja Zverige! I didn't say all players, but compared to his national team, Zlatan's club team would have a few quality technicians with the ball on the deck, shorter players, that don't exist en masse in his national team scenario.
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+x+x+x+x+xWe may not be producing robots but there is an argument that we are producing super technical midgets caletti: 5ft 4 arzani 5ft 7 mcgree 5ft 10 pasquali 5ft 9 Maradona 5 feet 4 Pele 5 feet 8 Messi 5ft 7 Iniesta 5 ft 7 Bobby Charlton 5 ft 7 Ryan Giggs 5 feet 9 Wayne Rooney 5 feet 10 Neymar 5 feet 9 Luca Modric 5 ft 8.....I could go on for days ...not bad for a bunch of " midgets " This is why many of the Northern European and Eastern European teams will never win anything. They select too many big players in their teams - unlike the stars listed above. Few are sufficiently nimble, and have the ability to change direction quickly when the ball is on the deck. Decentric, with respect, that's a load of crap. Most Northern European and Eastern European countries will struggle to win much because it's bloody competitive and they tend to have relatively small populations. It's got nothing to do with what you're saying. They don't select big footballers for the sake of selecting big footballers. They select who's good (big, small or whatever) and then a strategy in place which they think will work for them. You're too blinkered by preconceived ideas about height. Being taller than 6 feet does not, necessarily, mean a footballer can't be fast and agile. Let's consider some of the most technically gifted footballers ever who are also fast and agile. Cristiano Ronaldo and Thierry Henry are two of the most technically gifted, fast and agile football players of recent years. They're 1.85m and 1.88m respectively. Consider tennis. Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic are considered two of the fast and most agile on the men's tour; 1.88m and 1.90m respectively. As we speak, Sweden have made it to the quarter finals of the World Cup, playing better than Australia ever have done and keeping clean sheets recently (in COMPETITIVE matches) against Italy, South Korea, Mexico and Switzerland. To put it into context, when did Australia last keep a clean sheet in a World Cup match? Sweden's lack of technical quality will show in the next few games, as will Russia's. They are the last of the plodders, devoid of sufficient quantity of quality highly proficient technical players with the ball on the deck - ball carrying, 1v1 evasion skills, slick first touch. If one looks at the Brazilian team, or Mexican team, most of their players have these qualities. This is a great difference where many people in Australia overly adulate nearly all European football. Outside the powerhouses, most of the European nations who play football are little better than us, and, I'd surmise have domestic leagues little better, apart from a couple of powerhouse teams. In FFA coach education the world powerhouses clearly stand out from the others. Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland, Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina can be defined as powerhouses given the consistent ability over time to qualify for senior and youth WCs, and whose cattle consistently play big five football over a sustained period. ATM one can add Portugal, England, Croatia and Belgium, who at this point in time, meet these criteria. Outside these teams, few have any realistic prospect of going late into tournaments, apart from causing a few upsets - often with a great deal of luck. You mean the Mexican team that just lost 3-0 to the plodders? Nice to see you have thrown Croatia out of there as well so your argument doesn't look like a piece of piss as well What you are saying is also completely irrelevant to height, these countries don't fail because of a lack of height and nimble players but because they don't have the system or league among other factors to actually develop consistently strong teams. That is the only difference between your much loved admiration for the German and the Dutch teams because believe it or not, they are actually taller than these poor useless plodders.
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+x+x+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The German squad which won the last world cup only had one player smaller than 5'11 in Lahm. The majority of the squad were well over 6 ft. This is for the starting lineup btw What about Ozul? There was also a shortish striker who scored against us in the Confed Cup, whose name escapes me. Ozil isn't small, he is 6 ft. 1.80 - 5ft 11. Nevertheless, he looks shorter than his German team-mates. Lucas Podolski looks shorter too. Germany may be the tallest of the powerhouses, but they have phenomenal technical quality too.
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+x+x+x+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The German squad which won the last world cup only had one player smaller than 5'11 in Lahm. The majority of the squad were well over 6 ft. This is for the starting lineup btw What about Ozul? There was also a shortish striker who scored against us in the Confed Cup, whose name escapes me. Ozil isn't small, he is 6 ft. 1.80 - 5ft 11. Nevertheless, he looks shorter than his German team-mates. Lucas Podolski looks shorter too. Germany may be the tallest of the powerhouses, but they have phenomenal technical quality too. 1.83- 6ft And he only looks shorter because they are all bloody tall. Not because he is small mate... You are also doing it again, forgetting that the system is what makes players good not their height.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWe may not be producing robots but there is an argument that we are producing super technical midgets caletti: 5ft 4 arzani 5ft 7 mcgree 5ft 10 pasquali 5ft 9 Maradona 5 feet 4 Pele 5 feet 8 Messi 5ft 7 Iniesta 5 ft 7 Bobby Charlton 5 ft 7 Ryan Giggs 5 feet 9 Wayne Rooney 5 feet 10 Neymar 5 feet 9 Luca Modric 5 ft 8.....I could go on for days ...not bad for a bunch of " midgets " This is why many of the Northern European and Eastern European teams will never win anything. They select too many big players in their teams - unlike the stars listed above. Few are sufficiently nimble, and have the ability to change direction quickly when the ball is on the deck. Decentric, with respect, that's a load of crap. Most Northern European and Eastern European countries will struggle to win much because it's bloody competitive and they tend to have relatively small populations. It's got nothing to do with what you're saying. They don't select big footballers for the sake of selecting big footballers. They select who's good (big, small or whatever) and then a strategy in place which they think will work for them. You're too blinkered by preconceived ideas about height. Being taller than 6 feet does not, necessarily, mean a footballer can't be fast and agile. Let's consider some of the most technically gifted footballers ever who are also fast and agile. Cristiano Ronaldo and Thierry Henry are two of the most technically gifted, fast and agile football players of recent years. They're 1.85m and 1.88m respectively. Consider tennis. Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic are considered two of the fast and most agile on the men's tour; 1.88m and 1.90m respectively. As we speak, Sweden have made it to the quarter finals of the World Cup, playing better than Australia ever have done and keeping clean sheets recently (in COMPETITIVE matches) against Italy, South Korea, Mexico and Switzerland. To put it into context, when did Australia last keep a clean sheet in a World Cup match? Sweden's lack of technical quality will show in the next few games, as will Russia's. They are the last of the plodders, devoid of sufficient quantity of quality highly proficient technical players with the ball on the deck - ball carrying, 1v1 evasion skills, slick first touch. If one looks at the Brazilian team, or Mexican team, most of their players have these qualities. This is a great difference where many people in Australia overly adulate nearly all European football. Outside the powerhouses, most of the European nations who play football are little better than us, and, I'd surmise have domestic leagues little better, apart from a couple of powerhouse teams. In FFA coach education the world powerhouses clearly stand out from the others. Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland, Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina can be defined as powerhouses given the consistent ability over time to qualify for senior and youth WCs, and whose cattle consistently play big five football over a sustained period. ATM one can add Portugal, England, Croatia and Belgium, who at this point in time, meet these criteria. Outside these teams, few have any realistic prospect of going late into tournaments, apart from causing a few upsets - often with a great deal of luck. You mean the Mexican team that just lost 3-0 to the plodders? Nice to see you have thrown Croatia out of there as well so your argument doesn't look like a piece of piss as well What you are saying is also completely irrelevant to height, these countries don't fail because of a lack of height and nimble players but because they don't have the system or league among other factors to actually develop consistently strong teams. That is the only difference between your much loved admiration for the German and the Dutch teams because believe it or not, they are actually taller than these poor useless plodders. Mexico still looked technically proficient in the tournament and have consistently progressed further in WCs than most European teams. They've constantly made the last 16, which is quite a consistent achievement. The Dutch also select shorter players like Wesley Schneijder.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWe may not be producing robots but there is an argument that we are producing super technical midgets caletti: 5ft 4 arzani 5ft 7 mcgree 5ft 10 pasquali 5ft 9 Maradona 5 feet 4 Pele 5 feet 8 Messi 5ft 7 Iniesta 5 ft 7 Bobby Charlton 5 ft 7 Ryan Giggs 5 feet 9 Wayne Rooney 5 feet 10 Neymar 5 feet 9 Luca Modric 5 ft 8.....I could go on for days ...not bad for a bunch of " midgets " This is why many of the Northern European and Eastern European teams will never win anything. They select too many big players in their teams - unlike the stars listed above. Few are sufficiently nimble, and have the ability to change direction quickly when the ball is on the deck. Decentric, with respect, that's a load of crap. Most Northern European and Eastern European countries will struggle to win much because it's bloody competitive and they tend to have relatively small populations. It's got nothing to do with what you're saying. They don't select big footballers for the sake of selecting big footballers. They select who's good (big, small or whatever) and then a strategy in place which they think will work for them. You're too blinkered by preconceived ideas about height. Being taller than 6 feet does not, necessarily, mean a footballer can't be fast and agile. Let's consider some of the most technically gifted footballers ever who are also fast and agile. Cristiano Ronaldo and Thierry Henry are two of the most technically gifted, fast and agile football players of recent years. They're 1.85m and 1.88m respectively. Consider tennis. Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic are considered two of the fast and most agile on the men's tour; 1.88m and 1.90m respectively. As we speak, Sweden have made it to the quarter finals of the World Cup, playing better than Australia ever have done and keeping clean sheets recently (in COMPETITIVE matches) against Italy, South Korea, Mexico and Switzerland. To put it into context, when did Australia last keep a clean sheet in a World Cup match? Sweden's lack of technical quality will show in the next few games, as will Russia's. They are the last of the plodders, devoid of sufficient quantity of quality highly proficient technical players with the ball on the deck - ball carrying, 1v1 evasion skills, slick first touch. If one looks at the Brazilian team, or Mexican team, most of their players have these qualities. This is a great difference where many people in Australia overly adulate nearly all European football. Outside the powerhouses, most of the European nations who play football are little better than us, and, I'd surmise have domestic leagues little better, apart from a couple of powerhouse teams. In FFA coach education the world powerhouses clearly stand out from the others. Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland, Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina can be defined as powerhouses given the consistent ability over time to qualify for senior and youth WCs, and whose cattle consistently play big five football over a sustained period. ATM one can add Portugal, England, Croatia and Belgium, who at this point in time, meet these criteria. Outside these teams, few have any realistic prospect of going late into tournaments, apart from causing a few upsets - often with a great deal of luck. You mean the Mexican team that just lost 3-0 to the plodders? Nice to see you have thrown Croatia out of there as well so your argument doesn't look like a piece of piss as well What you are saying is also completely irrelevant to height, these countries don't fail because of a lack of height and nimble players but because they don't have the system or league among other factors to actually develop consistently strong teams. That is the only difference between your much loved admiration for the German and the Dutch teams because believe it or not, they are actually taller than these poor useless plodders. Mexico still looked technically proficient in the tournament and have consistently progressed further in WCs than most European teams. They've constantly made the last 16, which is quite a consistent achievement. The Dutch also select shorter players like Wesley Schneijder. You know so do the other countries right? But the Dutch just like the other countries are so tall. I wonder how long it'll take you to realise there isn't a cause and affect relationship between height and success in football.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The German squad which won the last world cup only had one player smaller than 5'11 in Lahm. The majority of the squad were well over 6 ft. This is for the starting lineup btw What about Ozul? There was also a shortish striker who scored against us in the Confed Cup, whose name escapes me. Ozil isn't small, he is 6 ft. 1.80 - 5ft 11. Nevertheless, he looks shorter than his German team-mates. Lucas Podolski looks shorter too. Germany may be the tallest of the powerhouses, but they have phenomenal technical quality too. 1.83- 6ft And he only looks shorter because they are all bloody tall. Not because he is small mate... You are also doing it again, forgetting that the system is what makes players good not their height. Of course a system makes players good. Australia is also in the top 10 nations in height, but selects smaller players than many of the European teams who have too many big, cumbersome players playing a physical power game, that rarely wins World Cups or European champs.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The German squad which won the last world cup only had one player smaller than 5'11 in Lahm. The majority of the squad were well over 6 ft. This is for the starting lineup btw What about Ozul? There was also a shortish striker who scored against us in the Confed Cup, whose name escapes me. Ozil isn't small, he is 6 ft. 1.80 - 5ft 11. Nevertheless, he looks shorter than his German team-mates. Lucas Podolski looks shorter too. Germany may be the tallest of the powerhouses, but they have phenomenal technical quality too. 1.83- 6ft And he only looks shorter because they are all bloody tall. Not because he is small mate... You are also doing it again, forgetting that the system is what makes players good not their height. Of course a system makes players good. Australia is also in the top 10 nations in height, but selects smaller players than many of the European teams who have too many big, cumbersome players playing a physical power game, that rarely wins World Cups or European champs. You still don't get it do you. They don't fail because they are big, they fail because they lack the quality as do 99% of the countries who play the sport. Also it might come as a shock to you, we've gotten out of the group once, hardly an endorsement on whatever point you are trying to bring up.
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+x+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The Germans are a powerhouse. They still have a few shorter players in their ranks. Not one of the Northern European and Eastern European plodders. Ye because Forsberg, Eriksen, Milinkovic Savic, Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic and countless others are all useless plodders. Fuck me you chat so much shit I've identified Rakitic and Modric as highly proficient technical players for Croatia. The Balkans, former Yugoslavia, Croatia, Serbia and even Bosnia in the last WC, seem to produce decent technicians. Also, you don't need to use expletives to make a point.
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+x+x+x+x+xWe may not be producing robots but there is an argument that we are producing super technical midgets caletti: 5ft 4 arzani 5ft 7 mcgree 5ft 10 pasquali 5ft 9 Maradona 5 feet 4 Pele 5 feet 8 Messi 5ft 7 Iniesta 5 ft 7 Bobby Charlton 5 ft 7 Ryan Giggs 5 feet 9 Wayne Rooney 5 feet 10 Neymar 5 feet 9 Luca Modric 5 ft 8.....I could go on for days ...not bad for a bunch of " midgets " This is why many of the Northern European and Eastern European teams will never win anything. They select too many big players in their teams - unlike the stars listed above. Few are sufficiently nimble, and have the ability to change direction quickly when the ball is on the deck. Decentric, with respect, that's a load of crap. Most Northern European and Eastern European countries will struggle to win much because it's bloody competitive and they tend to have relatively small populations. It's got nothing to do with what you're saying. They don't select big footballers for the sake of selecting big footballers. They select who's good (big, small or whatever) and then a strategy in place which they think will work for them. You're too blinkered by preconceived ideas about height. Being taller than 6 feet does not, necessarily, mean a footballer can't be fast and agile. Let's consider some of the most technically gifted footballers ever who are also fast and agile. Cristiano Ronaldo and Thierry Henry are two of the most technically gifted, fast and agile football players of recent years. They're 1.85m and 1.88m respectively. Consider tennis. Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic are considered two of the fast and most agile on the men's tour; 1.88m and 1.90m respectively. As we speak, Sweden have made it to the quarter finals of the World Cup, playing better than Australia ever have done and keeping clean sheets recently (in COMPETITIVE matches) against Italy, South Korea, Mexico and Switzerland. To put it into context, when did Australia last keep a clean sheet in a World Cup match? Sweden's lack of technical quality will show in the next few games, as will Russia's. They are the last of the plodders, devoid of sufficient quantity of quality highly proficient technical players with the ball on the deck - ball carrying, 1v1 evasion skills, slick first touch. If one looks at the Brazilian team, or Mexican team, most of their players have these qualities. This is a great difference where many people in Australia overly adulate nearly all European football. Outside the powerhouses, most of the European nations who play football are little better than us, and, I'd surmise have domestic leagues little better, apart from a couple of powerhouse teams. In FFA coach education the world powerhouses clearly stand out from the others. Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland, Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina can be defined as powerhouses given the consistent ability over time to qualify for senior and youth WCs, and whose cattle consistently play big five football over a sustained period. ATM one can add Portugal, England, Croatia and Belgium, who at this point in time, meet these criteria. Outside these teams, few have any realistic prospect of going late into tournaments, apart from causing a few upsets - often with a great deal of luck. Right-ho. Still with our national curriculum, BP, BPO, rah rah rah, we've barely managed to qualify for the World Cup (despite one of the easiest of qualification pathways). Had a draw and two losses. Not scored from open play. Not kept a clean sheet Contrast that with the plodders who had to finish ahead of the Almighty Dutch to go into a play off against Italy. And then beat the Italians. Then they've made it out of the group in first place. And have won a knock-out stage match (unlike us) and the only team they've conceded goals against is Germany. Go figure
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+x+x+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The Germans are a powerhouse. They still have a few shorter players in their ranks. Not one of the Northern European and Eastern European plodders. Ye because Forsberg, Eriksen, Milinkovic Savic, Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic and countless others are all useless plodders. Fuck me you chat so much shit I've identified Rakitic and Modric as highly proficient technical players for Croatia. The Balkans, former Yugoslavia, Croatia, Serbia and even Bosnia in the last WC, seem to produce decent technicians. Also, you don't need to use expletives to make a point. But eastern europe and northern europe were all tall plodders, what has changed in these 10 minutes. Oh wait, maybe your generalisations aren't accurate at all and just like Germany actually have some technical talent in the squad as well.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The German squad which won the last world cup only had one player smaller than 5'11 in Lahm. The majority of the squad were well over 6 ft. This is for the starting lineup btw What about Ozul? There was also a shortish striker who scored against us in the Confed Cup, whose name escapes me. Ozil isn't small, he is 6 ft. 1.80 - 5ft 11. Nevertheless, he looks shorter than his German team-mates. Lucas Podolski looks shorter too. Germany may be the tallest of the powerhouses, but they have phenomenal technical quality too. 1.83- 6ft And he only looks shorter because they are all bloody tall. Not because he is small mate... You are also doing it again, forgetting that the system is what makes players good not their height. Of course a system makes players good. Australia is also in the top 10 nations in height, but selects smaller players than many of the European teams who have too many big, cumbersome players playing a physical power game, that rarely wins World Cups or European champs. You still don't get it do you. They don't fail because they are big, they fail because they lack the quality as do 99% of the countries who play the sport. Also it might come as a shock to you, we've gotten out of the group once, hardly an endorsement on whatever point you are trying to bring up. It is probably that the criterion they use to select players, isn't as technical as the powerhouses. And, they don't emulate the powerhouses' methodology. Countries like Croatia, Portugal and Uruguay, have small populations, but still produce gifted technicians - and - punch well above their weight.
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+x+x+x+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The Germans are a powerhouse. They still have a few shorter players in their ranks. Not one of the Northern European and Eastern European plodders. Ye because Forsberg, Eriksen, Milinkovic Savic, Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic and countless others are all useless plodders. Fuck me you chat so much shit I've identified Rakitic and Modric as highly proficient technical players for Croatia. The Balkans, former Yugoslavia, Croatia, Serbia and even Bosnia in the last WC, seem to produce decent technicians. Also, you don't need to use expletives to make a point. But eastern europe and northern europe were all tall plodders, what has changed in these 10 minutes. Oh wait, maybe your generalisations aren't accurate at all and just like Germany actually have some technical talent in the squad as well. You are trying to be belligerent. I've identified the Balkans as a separate football entity from Eastern and Northern European teams.
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City Sam
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The German squad which won the last world cup only had one player smaller than 5'11 in Lahm. The majority of the squad were well over 6 ft. This is for the starting lineup btw What about Ozul? There was also a shortish striker who scored against us in the Confed Cup, whose name escapes me. Ozil isn't small, he is 6 ft. 1.80 - 5ft 11. Nevertheless, he looks shorter than his German team-mates. Lucas Podolski looks shorter too. Germany may be the tallest of the powerhouses, but they have phenomenal technical quality too. 1.83- 6ft And he only looks shorter because they are all bloody tall. Not because he is small mate... You are also doing it again, forgetting that the system is what makes players good not their height. Of course a system makes players good. Australia is also in the top 10 nations in height, but selects smaller players than many of the European teams who have too many big, cumbersome players playing a physical power game, that rarely wins World Cups or European champs. You still don't get it do you. They don't fail because they are big, they fail because they lack the quality as do 99% of the countries who play the sport. Also it might come as a shock to you, we've gotten out of the group once, hardly an endorsement on whatever point you are trying to bring up. It is probably that the criterion they use to select players, isn't as technical as the powerhouses. And, they don't emulate the powerhouses' methodology. Countries like Croatia, Portugal and Uruguay, have small populations, but still produce gifted technicians - and - punch well above their weight. But Croatia are one of the tallest teams this world cup, how could they possibly also be technical as well? It doesn't compute? Wait I've figured it out, height is completely irrelevant to success.
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People will find all sorts of excuses for failure, interestingly the Scottish complained they were too short in article below,. Table shows average height of teams in 2017. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-41549709| Country | Height (cm) | | Serbia | 186.5 | | Bosnia and Herzegovina | 185.8 | | Iceland | 185.7 | | Belgium | 185.3 | | Sweden | 185.1 | | Montenegro | 185 | | Germany | 184.9 | | Latvia | 184.8 | | Russia | 184.8 | | Greece | 184.5 | | Denmark | 184.4 | | Slovenia | 184.4 | | Ukraine | 184.4 | | Austria | 184.3 | | Lithuania | 184.3 | | England | 184.1 | | Belarus | 184 | | Croatia | 183.9 | | Faroe Islands | 183.8 | | Finland | 183.8 | | Georgia | 183.6 | | Czech Republic | 183.6 | | Norway | 183.6 | | Republic of Ireland | 183.5 | | Hungary | 183.5 | | Northern Ireland | 183 | | Moldova | 183 | | Switzerland | 182.9 | | Italy | 182.9 | | Macedonia | 182.8 | | Bulgaria | 182.7 | | Slovakia | 182.4 | | Poland | 182.4 | | Kosovo | 182.3 | | Albania | 181.8 | | Romania | 181.7 | | Estonia | 181.7 | | Portugal | 181.4 | | France | 181.4 | | Wales | 181.4 | | Netherlands | 181.4 | | Turkey | 181.3 | | Azerbaijan | 180.4 | | Scotland | 180.1 | | Spain | 180.1 | | Armenia | 179.8 | | Israel | 179.2 | | Cyprus | 178.3 |
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City Sam
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat’s the average height of successful German teams. Can’t imagine they were midgets. The Germans are a powerhouse. They still have a few shorter players in their ranks. Not one of the Northern European and Eastern European plodders. Ye because Forsberg, Eriksen, Milinkovic Savic, Modric, Rakitic, Kovacic and countless others are all useless plodders. Fuck me you chat so much shit I've identified Rakitic and Modric as highly proficient technical players for Croatia. The Balkans, former Yugoslavia, Croatia, Serbia and even Bosnia in the last WC, seem to produce decent technicians. Also, you don't need to use expletives to make a point. But eastern europe and northern europe were all tall plodders, what has changed in these 10 minutes. Oh wait, maybe your generalisations aren't accurate at all and just like Germany actually have some technical talent in the squad as well. You are trying to be belligerent. I've identified the Balkans as a separate football entity from Eastern and Northern European teams. No you've changed the criteria and excluded countries so your point isn't a load of rubbish.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWe may not be producing robots but there is an argument that we are producing super technical midgets caletti: 5ft 4 arzani 5ft 7 mcgree 5ft 10 pasquali 5ft 9 Maradona 5 feet 4 Pele 5 feet 8 Messi 5ft 7 Iniesta 5 ft 7 Bobby Charlton 5 ft 7 Ryan Giggs 5 feet 9 Wayne Rooney 5 feet 10 Neymar 5 feet 9 Luca Modric 5 ft 8.....I could go on for days ...not bad for a bunch of " midgets " This is why many of the Northern European and Eastern European teams will never win anything. They select too many big players in their teams - unlike the stars listed above. Few are sufficiently nimble, and have the ability to change direction quickly when the ball is on the deck. Decentric, with respect, that's a load of crap. Most Northern European and Eastern European countries will struggle to win much because it's bloody competitive and they tend to have relatively small populations. It's got nothing to do with what you're saying. They don't select big footballers for the sake of selecting big footballers. They select who's good (big, small or whatever) and then a strategy in place which they think will work for them. You're too blinkered by preconceived ideas about height. Being taller than 6 feet does not, necessarily, mean a footballer can't be fast and agile. Let's consider some of the most technically gifted footballers ever who are also fast and agile. Cristiano Ronaldo and Thierry Henry are two of the most technically gifted, fast and agile football players of recent years. They're 1.85m and 1.88m respectively. Consider tennis. Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic are considered two of the fast and most agile on the men's tour; 1.88m and 1.90m respectively. As we speak, Sweden have made it to the quarter finals of the World Cup, playing better than Australia ever have done and keeping clean sheets recently (in COMPETITIVE matches) against Italy, South Korea, Mexico and Switzerland. To put it into context, when did Australia last keep a clean sheet in a World Cup match? Sweden's lack of technical quality will show in the next few games, as will Russia's. They are the last of the plodders, devoid of sufficient quantity of quality highly proficient technical players with the ball on the deck - ball carrying, 1v1 evasion skills, slick first touch. If one looks at the Brazilian team, or Mexican team, most of their players have these qualities. This is a great difference where many people in Australia overly adulate nearly all European football. Outside the powerhouses, most of the European nations who play football are little better than us, and, I'd surmise have domestic leagues little better, apart from a couple of powerhouse teams. In FFA coach education the world powerhouses clearly stand out from the others. Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland, Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina can be defined as powerhouses given the consistent ability over time to qualify for senior and youth WCs, and whose cattle consistently play big five football over a sustained period. ATM one can add Portugal, England, Croatia and Belgium, who at this point in time, meet these criteria. Outside these teams, few have any realistic prospect of going late into tournaments, apart from causing a few upsets - often with a great deal of luck. Right-ho. Still with our national curriculum, BP, BPO, rah rah rah, we've barely managed to qualify for the World Cup (despite one of the easiest of qualification pathways). Had a draw and two losses. Not scored from open play. Not kept a clean sheet Contrast that with the plodders who had to finish ahead of the Almighty Dutch to go into a play off against Italy. And then beat the Italians. Then they've made it out of the group in first place. And have won a knock-out stage match (unlike us) and the only team they've conceded goals against is Germany. Go figure Using specific performance analysis criteria , we performed well in five out of six criteria in three thirds of the pitch. It shows that Australia performed abysmally in one criterion. The onus is on us to improve the one criteria to match the other five. The match stats also support this.
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+xPeople will find all sorts of excuses for failure, interestingly the Scottish complained they were too short in article below,. Table shows average height of teams in 2017. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-41549709| Country | Height (cm) | | Serbia | 186.5 | | Bosnia and Herzegovina | 185.8 | | Iceland | 185.7 | | Belgium | 185.3 | | Sweden | 185.1 | | Montenegro | 185 | | Germany | 184.9 | | Latvia | 184.8 | | Russia | 184.8 | | Greece | 184.5 | | Denmark | 184.4 | | Slovenia | 184.4 | | Ukraine | 184.4 | | Austria | 184.3 | | Lithuania | 184.3 | | England | 184.1 | | Belarus | 184 | | Croatia | 183.9 | | Faroe Islands | 183.8 | | Finland | 183.8 | | Georgia | 183.6 | | Czech Republic | 183.6 | | Norway | 183.6 | | Republic of Ireland | 183.5 | | Hungary | 183.5 | | Northern Ireland | 183 | | Moldova | 183 | | Switzerland | 182.9 | | Italy | 182.9 | | Macedonia | 182.8 | | Bulgaria | 182.7 | | Slovakia | 182.4 | | Poland | 182.4 | | Kosovo | 182.3 | | Albania | 181.8 | | Romania | 181.7 | | Estonia | 181.7 | | Portugal | 181.4 | | France | 181.4 | | Wales | 181.4 | | Netherlands | 181.4 | | Turkey | 181.3 | | Azerbaijan | 180.4 | | Scotland | 180.1 | | Spain | 180.1 | | Armenia | 179.8 | | Israel | 179.2 | | Cyprus | 178.3 |
South American teams and Mexico are a lot shorter and have had consistent success. In a FFA seminar I attended the average of some South American teams in one WC was closer to 1m.75.
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