Looking at how arnie played the last few years with Sydney and the success he had with the 4-2-3-1 system it got me thinking.
At Sydney arnie didn’t use wingers, he used ninkovic and Adrian as the right and left attacking midfielders. He got his width from the right and left back bombing up and back.
Do you think he will implement this style to the NT? Wingers are a problem for us and we do have a few good attacking midfielders who could do the ninkovic/Adrian job (luongo, rogic, mooy, Irvine, da Silva, genreau, Petratos).

The only concern is the wing backs. I think behich is as good as Zullo, but internationally I don’t think risdon could do it international level.

Also, where does this leave our actual wingers? Leckie, nabbout, kruse.

Just something that’s been playing on my mind. Personally I’d try Leckie at striker or at RB. I’m still undecided.

its been winning trophies when he does things his way but this is a real acid test for his managing skills. we're going to need patience though

In your formation, an attacking midfield of Rogic, Mooy and Kruse would be rather good. two wide who can take players on, anchored by Mooy playing from a more advanced position than he has been played. Still being somewhat deeper than the other two.

This would allow Luongo to be one of the DM's with Jedinak , Irvine or Mulligan. Also may allow interchange between Mooy and one of the DM's if they get too far forward.

As you suggest, Leckie to right wing back could be a potential move which would firm up that position and give us, with Behich, potential to have two wng backs able to go up and down the sidelines.

Arnie did however have a good target man always at Sydney ... something he doesn't really have in the NT side ATM, so he may opt for a different formation.

Also will depend on how he feels he can best adapt his style for a NT (i.e. not a season too indoctrinate players into his system ... he may have to go for a system all are comfortable with, this for me would discount Leckie as RB, as he has never played there ... he has shown previously for the NT that he can be quite clumsy at defense and over commits, and only a silly manager would make that transition at a national level).

I think the friendlies he might use to experiment a bit, but I think he'll pick a formation and style he thinks will suit the team (probably something similar to what they had at the WC) then move around the pieces (players) to find the right mix.

Thinking a bit outside the square, Irvine struggles to get into the midfield currently and he has a pretty decent engine and is good defensively. He played as a fullback for Celtic in his youth so perhaps for the time being this could be an option to include him in the national team. Also still provides us with his aerial threat from set pieces

4.2.3.1.

i think he has hardly moved from that in a decade.  and we have a team for that now.

atkinson----jedi---sains---behich
----------luongo-------mooy
leckie-----------rogic---------arzani
---------------maclaren

it's going to look like that for a couple years give or take

---------------------Ryan-------------------
-------Sainsbury-------Susnajr---------
Leckie----------------------------Behich
------------Mooy------Luongo----------
Arzani-----------Rogic---------Borello
-----------------Maclaren----------------

Arnie rely's heavily on a good quality creative midfielder. He made special mention of Rogic,Mooy and Arzani in the press conference.

Also, he is tactically near genious at organisation and nullifying other teams strengths (risk averter). i.e. don't play risky, which Ange is 110% risk taker

I think he will be a very good manager, but the straw may break the camels back when it comes to creating goals.

With Rogic, Arzani and Mooy, we may just find that teams park the bus against us. To which GA rarely sees in the A-League tbh

IMHO that formation requires a CF to hold the ball up as in Juric or similar and won't work with Maclaren who is more of a traditional goal sneak striker. I have always felt that Maclaren would work better in a two up forward  formation.

Lol patience? Most have already written him off due to their own prejudice against the man. He will need to have the roots performing instantly and even then he will likely receive zero credit.

dont really mind what formation.. I think he might go two up front as he always had a target man.. im more interested to see how he can create a pathway from the u20s > u23 > socceroos which has been missing for a really long time..

Atkinson is a gun imo. He should be blooded into that RB slot from first friendlies. Chuck on Fran and Risdon and we are looking alright there.

I have no doubt he's going to be using the BVM blueprint from the WC if for no other reason than its not a huge departure from what he does anyway, and it was effective.

The challenge will be finding ways to score without being able to contract an effective #9. Mclaren being the obvious but dissimilar choice to his SFC strikers. Most of the rest is there but GA will also use Luongo more and might even try Jedi at CB if Milligan retires as it means being able to deploy Luongo/Irvine, Mooy and Rogic while keeping Jedi's presence on the field. Sains will be able to cover the pace and touch side of things.

Hopefully he'll also be bringing the likes of Arzani (given), Susjnar, Borello, Mabil, Theoharas and a few other youngsters into the squad.

Goodwin must be a show at LB/RB too surely.

Also wondering if he'll make room for his SFC favs - Jurman (already there really), Wilko, Brillante, O'Neill.

I'm not a huge Arnie fan but I'm quietly confident he'll do well in Asia and WC quals.

Brah, you need to relax or you are going to pop a blood vessel before he even gets started. :laugh:

Rellllaxxxxx

I fully understand peoples dislike of Arnie, just as I once despised him but I can assure you all that when he is coaching your team, as only SFC and CCM fans will know, it is a completely relaxed, comfortable and confident experience.
Sure, there will be a big step up in quality of the opposition but I am really looking forward to this phase for the National Team.

I think Arzani...Rojic......Leckie with McLaren up front is a pretty standard Arnie attack, provided they are all working hard when we don't have the ball.

It is the two DM's that stand out in Arnie teams, they have to win balls and transition to attack, so I think it will be   Mooy......Milligan/Jedinak and don't be surprised to see O'Neill or Brillante in the wings.

I'm a fan of Atkinson but unless he ups his defensive ability I cant see Arnie favouring him, I don't know who he will go with(Grant maybe) but I would love to see Leckie converted.

Sains and Jurman would be an obvious CB pairing and Behich is ideal for Arnies system.

The key is that everyone needs to work when we don't have the ball and anyone who doesn't won't be there.

he's worked best in a front 3 with 2 strong wings that can cut in and create rather than hang wide and cross.

call it a 4-3-3 if you want because there is often very little difference.  arzani, leckie, borello, can all cut in, shoot, and create. 

plus if you are not working around our best striker at the time you're fucked. 

yep RB is still up for grabs imo - but we are starting to get a few options coming forward which is great. it's just begging to be taken by grant, risdon, atkinson, karacic - pierias is a dark horse that might offer some surprises if he moves to a league where he can actually get some game time.

A "goal sneek" who makes clever runs and works hard off the ball is pretty standard Arnie, I think. I'm not sure it is so much about holding the ball up.

The only doubt about McLaren is whether he is an adequate target man for the wingers to find but if his runs are clever enough it shouldn't be a problem..

if rogic wasnt so lazy he would be making late runs in behind the striker to pluck a few of them crosses off

anyway, we need to do better than lobbing in crosses to nobody. im sick of that being our sole mode of attack from open play. 

arnie has been relying on a target man in sfc. it will be interesting to see how he uses maclaren. there is a decent chance that our best performing strikers over the next 2 years might be maclaren and taggart. they are not target men. the NT will have to adapt.

Yeah, I don't think Bobo was particularly a target man, though he was decent with his head, it was more his ability to be in the right place at the right time. Also taking out defenders to create space for the cutback.
You then had Ninko, Adrian and Brosque contributing a lot of goals and I honestly think Arzani, Rogic and Leckie can do that.

Gersbach, garrucio, smith as a left winger would give us better crosses into the box than kruse. Would also help defensively further up the field.
Behich or elder at lb.

RB you've got Risdon, grant, Karacic, Atkinson or even Deng as that combo defender.
Leckie is also a good option at RB but he presses a lot on defense at RW. We don't have another player on that side who can do the same.

Rogic and arzani to get a half each with a striker beside them in a 4-4-2 formation or in front of them in a 4-4-1-1

Lots of new strikers should be trialled.

if Mabil keeps progressing then we have some incredible pace down our right side.. if we can convert leckie to a RB too..

Risdon improved immeasurably under BVM.

I think Arnie will be similar to BVM, but isn't as good a coach - yet. BVM is one of the best coaches in world football.

Arnie should still do a good job though. I think Arnie will much more effective than Ange in away qualifiers. He will adopt a  more pragmatic and defensive approach, but probably not as well as Bert. Arnie will change tactics,  unlike Ange.

Apart from Tim Palmer writing for The Roar, who posts as Australian Scout on this forum, nobody in the Aussie football media provided a decent, balanced view of BVM's tenure. The Socceroos improved immeasurably under his tutelage - assisted by Mark VB and mates.

I'd surmise Arnie will generally use a 4-2-3-1 in BPO and 1-4-3-3 with the defensive midfield triangle with the ball.

Ange never successfully implemented his voodoo 3-4-2-1, because the players were unfamiliar with it  at club level. It rarely worked under Ange's tenure.

If Ange had deployed the 3-4-3 flat midfield, or 3-4-3 diamond midfield, players would've worked with it at club and development level. Hence, it would've been far more successful.

I'd surmise Arnie will use the more conventional 3-4-3 variations, if he deploys 3 at the back.

This is a key tenet of Arnie's systems - even more than Bert.

Although perplexingly, Ange selected Brad Smith, whose strength was when the other  team had the ball. 

I get why he selected Smith, someone incredibly quick who can get back into position quickly if we are caught out. But you just can't play someone who has played like 20 club matches and it showed.

Not to your liking anyway 

Craig Foster's was awful. When it came to other teams Fozzie was far better.

Who outside these two in the Oz football media with a reasonable background in football performance methodology provided any detailed analysis?

Surprised Matt Simon hasn’t been mentioned yet :)

But seriously, I wonder how our striker woes will be dealt with over the next cycle. Hopefully, Juric recovers and Maclaren has a great run.