Steven Lowy quits


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If it doesn’t get through I think we’re all expecting FIFA to step in but given this is a highly political situation I wouldn’t be surprised at any outcome from normalisation to suspension to the ffa being granted some more time to fudge a compromise. We’ll only know when we know I guess, but what most people seem to believe is in the event of it falling to get enough votes we should see a normalisation committee appointed.
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Waz - 22 Aug 2018 7:49 AM
Bonita tweeting 17 minutes ago:“Back to football politics, I understand the FIFA Associations C’tee has endorsed the CRWG report and will be asking the FFA Congress to vote on it at the EGM on 7 September”

So if it doesn't got voted through, Fifa steps in?
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Bonita tweeting 17 minutes ago:

“Back to football politics, I understand the FIFA Associations C’tee has endorsed the CRWG report and will be asking the FFA Congress to vote on it at the EGM on 7 September”
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Feed_The_Brox - 21 Aug 2018 11:47 AM
WSF - 21 Aug 2018 10:27 AM

can't reveal it, but is pretty solid. lets see how this plays out, shall we? 

No. When you go making stuff up you need to be across the basic details.
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Buggalugs 2.0 - 21 Aug 2018 11:51 AM
why not ?

why do you think? it was told in confidence. feel free to take it as a grain of salt if you so wish. 
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Feed_The_Brox - 21 Aug 2018 11:47 AM
WSF - 21 Aug 2018 10:27 AM

can't reveal it,

why not ?

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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WSF - 21 Aug 2018 10:27 AM
Sauce?

can't reveal it, but is pretty solid. lets see how this plays out, shall we? 
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WSF - 21 Aug 2018 10:27 AM
Feed_The_Brox - 21 Aug 2018 10:07 AM

Sauce?

Impossible.

Unless FIFA ignored the recommendations of the committee they set up, and has delivered what they asked for

This is how FIFA operate at the moment



With minutes left, Nigeria avoids international

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With minutes left, Nigeria avoids international soccer ban
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LAGOS/ABUJA (Reuters) - Nigeria narrowly avoided being kicked out of international soccer on Monday when it recognised the FIFA-approved head of its national federation, minutes before a ban for its failure to do so was due to take effect.

The sport's global body had said that, in response to state meddling in the running of the Nigerian Football Federation (NFF), it would suspend the country from international matches at 1100 GMT, thereby excluding the side from next month's African Nations Cup qualifiers.

FIFA said it had received confirmation that its recognised leadership team under Amaju Pinnick had been "given back effective control of the NFF and its offices".

"The suspension of the NFF will not take effect," it said in a statement more than three hours after the deadline passed.

Pinnick, elected NFF head in 2014, was in a stand-off with Chris Giwa, who had appealed against the election result and, after a protracted legal battle, won a favourable high court ruling in June.

Giwa was handed a five-year ban by FIFA for breaches of NFF statutes and the FIFA code of ethics in February 2017.

In a tweet posted at 1038 GMT, a spokesman for Vice President Yemi Osinbajo said Nigeria had "already conveyed to FIFA its firm position recognising Amaju Pinnick-led NFF as the current & only NFF Exco (executive committee)."

The government would work with all stakeholders "to resolve (the) dispute in a timely manner," he added.

Giwa previously appeared to have the backing of the government. He was included by Sports Minister Solomon Dalung on a proposed list of delegates to meet FIFA president Gianni Infantino in Zurich last week – an approach that FIFA rejected.

FIFA, which does not accept third party involvement in its member federations, and had given Nigeria a final warning on 14 Aug to ratify Pinnick's leadership.

In its statement, FIFA said it "will continue to closely monitor the situation in order to ensure that FIFA's rules and regulations are fully adhered to."

Nigeria are due to play a qualifier for the 2019 African Nations Cup in the Seychelles on Sept. 8.




Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Feed_The_Brox - 21 Aug 2018 10:07 AM
I have heard that the normalisation committee is coming. So Lowy walked before being pushed.  

Sauce?
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I have heard that the normalisation committee is coming. So Lowy walked before being pushed.  
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nomates - 20 Aug 2018 9:02 PM
New Zealand wants to be good at football too!, The sooner the A League becomes independent the better.

what is NZs long term plan for football in your country? how can NZ have a presence in Australian football if the AFC want nix out?
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New Zealand wants to be good at football too!, The sooner the A League becomes independent the better.

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nomates - 19 Aug 2018 1:17 PM
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How am I a troll? If Australia get expelled from FIFA we would lose everything including the TV deal, And Rugby wouldn't look so bad if that happened.

Rugby is a pretty bad joke in this country, to be fair. it seems that Australia and New Zealand have taken different paths in what professional sports they want to excel at.

Australia wants to be good at Football and New Zealand wants to be king in Rugby and the results shows.
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So is Wellington license safe with Steve going?
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nomates - 19 Aug 2018 1:17 PM
maxxie - 19 Aug 2018 11:00 AM

How am I a troll? If Australia get expelled from FIFA we would lose everything including the TV deal, And Rugby wouldn't look so bad if that happened.

Rugby will always look bad ...shit sport to watch ...always was ..always will be ...until it dies

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maxxie - 19 Aug 2018 11:00 AM
@Waz

nomates is a troll, he's not actually being serious about anything. I'm 90% sure he's an Aussie who started his account purely to fuck with people who lose their shit over the Nix being in the a-league.

How am I a troll? If Australia get expelled from FIFA we would lose everything including the TV deal, And Rugby wouldn't look so bad if that happened.


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Burztur - 19 Aug 2018 8:11 AM
I don’t even know why Rugby is even brought up in this thread.

Its all kiwis ever talk about. 
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nomates is a troll, he's not actually being serious about anything. I'm 90% sure he's an Aussie who started his account purely to fuck with people who lose their shit over the Nix being in the a-league.
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Gyfox,Thanks for that.

Independence of the board and stakeholders is a seperate issue to what Lowy is talking about.
Absolutely the board and stakeholders should not be connected in anyway which would lead to a conflict of interest.

As I have said ,this is where Lowy is clouding the issue.He is arguing that the stakeholders need to be independent .That is total bs.
Stakeholders do not and should not be independent.They should all have skin in the game.They should all have an interest in football.(Although you could invite total outsiders in as well to gain a different perspective to issues.)

Independence for the board is obvious for a democratic board.But independence doesn't mean being dumb about football.For example.Bozza could be a board member(if he has no duties with any of the stakeholders).Archie Fraser could be so could as well ,given the same conditions.
If Bozza for example is a member of a board of a foootball club ,then he has a conflict of interest and is not independent.

The important thing for independence is to not have a conflict of interest.That is independence!

That is why Lowy is not and never has been independent.
His father has a connection with SFC and Hakoa and probably other connections which we can all speculate about,based on a long history with the game.Then you have board members who could have a connection with Lowy.His bleatings about independence are hollow.He says he is an independent thinker and others are not.But he is on the board and needs to be independent and is clearly not.
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I don’t even know why Rugby is even brought up in this thread.
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@ nomates

lol, maybe this is why so many people want Nix out, you (and Nix) are so detatched from Australia you don’t actually know what the fuck you’re talking about and therefore can’t contribute meaningfully to an adult conversation?

Rugby Australia is a complete shambles after the botched closure of Force, participation rates are in free fall and none-existent in some areas, crowds in Super Rugby were awful again this season, and viewing no better for SR games than HAL and for Australian teams vs NZ/SA teams viewing was way worse than HAL and often sub-40k.

And 63,000 there last night? That’s 10-15,000 below what they’d want. Bledisloe 1 should sell out the stadium. I’d also doubt there were actually 63,000 there ... it’s become common in Australia to up attendances (in all codes) and our dumb ass journalists don’t bother to question it.

My three main sports are Soccer, Rugby and Cricket with all three codes in administrative crisis fur different reafons this year. Rugby is the code at most risk, it’s sliding towards irrelevance as a sporting code and the pressure on RA is huge with a CEO under pressure, division in the game, and political infighting rife and all their major franchises are in debt (QLD Reds make Roar look good).

If there’s one hope in Rugby it’s st traditional club rugby level. But guess what, RA doesn’t want a bar of the Shute Shield being successful and competing with their plastic franchises (sound familiar?).

Meanwhile ASIC has been investigating its franchises, players in twitter are a pr disaster and a series of serious schoolboy neck injuries (5 in the last month?) has junior participation in crisis.

It’s in a real mess.

Soccer meanwhile can sort it’s shit out and move forward. Rugby unfortunately is in a continuing death spiral and is now in competition with Netball and Basketball to be the 4th/5th/6th code in the country ... don’t hold your breath on pro rugby surviving another decade.


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No offence @nomates but rugby union is where near to close to football these days, that ship sailed has 10 years ago.

By the way the game is on life support thanks to there stupid private school system that they still rely on for talent for.
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Mean while ARU have a better/shorter TV deal, better TV ratings and better live gate for Wallabies Vs Socceroos. 66,318 fans at the Olympic stadium for Bledisloe Cup Vs 40k then sub 50k for Socceroo play off games. Ireland vs Wallabies outrated Socceroos v Cheq and Hungary games via TV ratings. 

I can see the ARU taking full advantage of this FFA mess and putting football well and truly behind them. 



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bohemia - 18 Aug 2018 2:00 AM
Good to see the HAL marketing campaign kick off early this year

What an league. 
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PricklePear - 18 Aug 2018 6:13 PM
And people were criticizing me and others on this forum after we said that Lowy is trying to hold onto power due to some dodgy dealings behind the scenes and wont show his books...


"Some sources suggest that the reason Lowy is so desperate to remain in charge until the end of November relates back to the tainted bid for the 2022 World Cup. ASIC regulations require corporations, including those limited by guarantee, to maintain all financial records for seven years after financial statements are lodged. The seven years is up for 2010-11, the final year of grant monies from the federal government, in November 2018. "
http://footballtoday.news/features/steven-lowys-resignation-what-does-it-mean


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And people were criticizing me and others on this forum after we said that Lowy is trying to hold onto power due to some dodgy dealings behind the scenes and wont show his books...


"Some sources suggest that the reason Lowy is so desperate to remain in charge until the end of November relates back to the tainted bid for the 2022 World Cup. ASIC regulations require corporations, including those limited by guarantee, to maintain all financial records for seven years after financial statements are lodged. The seven years is up for 2010-11, the final year of grant monies from the federal government, in November 2018. "
http://footballtoday.news/features/steven-lowys-resignation-what-does-it-mean


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Decentric - 18 Aug 2018 9:16 AM
I only hope that the grass roots doesn't suffer with the mooted change, and, we don't plummet to the old days of Soccer Australia and Tony Labozetta's tenure. 

As opposed to the current system where you have to pay a ridiculous amount of money which prices out most of the talent in the country?
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I only hope that the grass roots doesn't suffer with the mooted change, and, we don't plummet to the old days of Soccer Australia and Tony Labozetta's tenure. 
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Eniri - 18 Aug 2018 1:29 AM
The one big problem with Lowy wasn't his stance on any of the issues of the game.  A lot of the time I got the strong impression he was following the lead of some of the state bodies on some of this stuff.  The big issue was he didn't ever comprehend how bad the governing structure of the game was and how insulated he and the board had become from the actual stakeholders of the game.  Every single time he makes a statement about this he repeats the same line, the FFA needs to hold the line and remain an 'independent' body not based on self interest.

This whole concept is flawed.  The current state controlled board isn't just independent, its unaccountable.  It doesn't reflect the views of the stakeholders in the states its meant to represent, the players, fans, clubs etc.  It just represents the various layers of bureaucracy around the game.  So we end up with a situation where various members of the bureaucracy vote for each others motions, support each other, and the actual clubs players parents fans etc are left unheard.   That is definitely 'independent'... its also a disaster.  The idea of actual stakeholders getting even minor amounts of power over the game is seen as a disaster by these people.   They honestly believe that independent unaccountable bureaucrats forming political blocks with each other is the way the game should be run.

I don't believe the conspiracy theories regarding the Lowys (mostly), it is just this insane attitude to leadership that makes him leaving so important.  I gave an out-loud cheer when I saw this headline.

good post ...except I would not rule out all conspiracy theories.
Bonita Mersiades has been inside the machine that is FFA and would have a bloody good idea as to what actually happens and why . She also had a lot of contact with Frank and Buckley at the time the World Cup bidding was happening . Her comments about Steven wanting to hang in as Chairman until November this year are interesting . As November this year also coincides with when the Lowys are off the hook with regards to having to provide financial records in the event  of any investigation into Franks handling of moneys in that bid . (there is a 7 year statute of limitations where you must keep financial records...according to Mersiades)

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