Second Test - Aus v India 2018 in Perth


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Paddles - 17 Dec 2018 5:16 PM
Aus have enough now - if Aus lose this game - the bowlers failed...

The batsmen have done their job...

I think Australia have enough but Australia has noone in the side near the quality of Pujara let alone Kohli.

If Australia loses because they let Rahul and Vijay put on a 100 opening partnership and one of the gets a century I would agree that the bowlers have failed. If Australia lose because one of the Kohli or Pujara gets a century and other makes a large contribution it might be they are just too good.

Vihari is the wildcard for me, he looked very good but only got 20. I think he could be a long term quality batsman for India and he could play an innings here. 
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baggygreenmania - 17 Dec 2018 5:26 PM
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all over red rover now.  286 lead. Up to our quality pace cartel and Lyon to equal the series.

you would think so

india had a much flatter pitch to get less in the first innings but there could be some drama along the way
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baggygreenmania - 17 Dec 2018 5:23 PM
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He and Starc have added almost 30 valuable runs. 

all over red rover now.  286 lead. Up to our quality pace cartel and Lyon to equal the series.

Shami was the star with 6/56. Fourth best figures by an Indian bowler in Australia. 

How vital will that 40odd first innings lead turn out to be.
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285 probably takes about 120 overs to get so oz will get a very poor pitch to bowl on and 2 new balls you would think
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280 in front, but the pessemist in me thinks if our last two batsmen can smack them around like this, they can do the same to us.
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Test_Fan - 17 Dec 2018 5:16 PM
Hazlewood finding the gap like a skilled batsman to get four. 

He and Starc have added almost 30 valuable runs. 
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Aus have enough now - if Aus lose this game - the bowlers failed...

The batsmen have done their job...
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Hazlewood finding the gap like a skilled batsman to get four. 
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Test_Fan - 17 Dec 2018 5:07 PM
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Is Ashwin going to be fit? If so he comes in for Umesh Yadav no matter what. Jadeja or Kuldeep Yadav will play otherwise. I just cannot see the MCG producing a pitch which will have India even considering for a second playing 4 quicks.
Shaw has to come in for Vijay or Rahul, neither are good enough so toss the coin.

K Yadav is arugably the better option, but the Indian tail is an issue...



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Paddles - 17 Dec 2018 4:52 PM
I'm going to make a bold prediction...

U Yadav dropped next test...



Is Ashwin going to be fit? If so he comes in for Umesh Yadav no matter what. Jadeja or Kuldeep Yadav will play otherwise. I just cannot see the MCG producing a pitch which will have India even considering for a second playing 4 quicks.
Shaw has to come in for Vijay or Rahul, neither are good enough so toss the coin.

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balls are as important as runs as the pitch is deteriorating fast

longer we can delay the better
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You’ve convinced me India can win on this pitch.

I hope you are wrong. I’m nervous.
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Decentric - 17 Dec 2018 5:00 PM
Lead by 251. Is it enough with their quality batting in the top six?

Its enough on some days - many days on this pitch - dunno about today...

Get it to 280 - It is Oz's game to lose...
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Lead by 251.

Is it enough with their quality batting in the top six?
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Even though he is out of form, Rahul is a key wicket here...

If he comes out guns blazing for a quick 50 - the game changes...

Vijay and Pujara will grind it - so they won't change the game quickly...
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baggygreenmania - 17 Dec 2018 4:54 PM
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MCG is a road so you want the other bloke.. forgotten his name. Kumar is it?

I wanted Kumar this test...

But Kohli aint bowling Yadav... and if Kohli don't bowl you... you don't play the next test...

Could be any of Ash, Jadeja or Kumar...
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Second slowest then. But not by a lot. I often wonder why Sharma does not utilize his great height more by pitching it short. 

Nah Shami is second fastest :p

Sharma uses the shorter ball as a variation, but he is far more about accuracy these days. He just keeps hitting length varying the inswing up with straighter ones. He's less volatile these days and focuses on the numbers...
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This is very closely poised. 
I think Australia can get the two openers cheapy. Vijay is fading as a player, perhaps his last ever test with Shaw back for the next test. Rahul is still youngish but I do not rate him at all.
However if Pujara and/or Kohli can get in a play an innings I think they can very close to 300. I said earlier that I wanted Australia to get 250-280 and I think will give us a huge chance to win but it is not happening. 

I think the Indian pacemen are more skilled and better at exploiting the conditions. However Australia has a quality spinner which might bring the attacks back to be more even. 

Heavy roller will flatten the pitch out again.

At the moment I think India can win this, but Australia the slight favourite.
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Paddles - 17 Dec 2018 4:52 PM
I'm going to make a bold prediction...

U Yadav dropped next test...



MCG is a road so you want the other bloke.. forgotten his name. Kumar is it?
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Paddles - 17 Dec 2018 4:46 PM
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Shami is the second fastest with Yadav now bowling mid 130's...

I know he's bowling low 130's now - but he overs at 139-141 for his early spells...

Sharma is easily the slowest these days...

Second slowest then. But not by a lot. I often wonder why Sharma does not utilize his great height more by pitching it short. 
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I'm going to make a bold prediction...

U Yadav dropped next test...



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MikeR - 17 Dec 2018 4:47 PM
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To quote the great man John Joseph Nicholson "you can't handle the truth" Which reminds me I haven't watched "A Few Good Men" lately. Thanks Baggers.

Sorry if I appeared rude mate. Just play another record. I back whoever is wearing the Baggy Green. That is all I wanna say.
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MikeR - 17 Dec 2018 4:47 PM
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To quote the great man John Joseph Nicholson "you can't handle the truth" Which reminds me I haven't watched "A Few Good Men" lately. Thanks Baggers.

Mike, have you ever seen a few Good New South Welshmen?

(Couldn't resist :P)
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baggygreenmania - 17 Dec 2018 4:45 PM
Jekyll and hyde deck. Shami  Indias slowest bowler has them spitting and lifting while their quickest Bumrah is bowling gazzundas. Good luck on this deck India.

Lyon has clued out this deck. Throw the bat and get as many as we can. C'mon Starc you can hit a long ball.
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Put a sock in it Mike. Give us all a break.

To quote the great man John Joseph Nicholson "you can't handle the truth" Which reminds me I haven't watched "A Few Good Men" lately. Thanks Baggers.
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baggygreenmania - 17 Dec 2018 4:45 PM
Jekyll and hyde deck. Shami  Indias slowest bowler has them spitting and lifting while their quickest Bumrah is bowling gazzundas. Good luck on this deck India.

Shami is the second fastest with Yadav now bowling mid 130's...

I know he's bowling low 130's now - but he overs at 139-141 for his early spells...

Sharma is easily the slowest these days...
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Jekyll and hyde deck. Shami  Indias slowest bowler has them spitting and lifting while their quickest Bumrah is bowling gazzundas. Good luck on this deck India.
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baggygreenmania - 17 Dec 2018 4:17 PM

The stick to the modified action wasn't working for him, he might as well give the game away. But showing his strength of character he gambled but it didn't work out but when he did return to test cricket and blew Hazlewood off the park
Pattinson 4 tests 19/450 av 23
Hazlewood same 4 tests 11/406 av 36.9
Hazlewood must be thanking his lucky stars for Pattinson's injury, otherwise he would be picking up garbage in the outer, just goes to show how a bit of competition shows up the mediocre.
During all this Cummins was on the side lines earning millions of dollars for nothing. 
So how is Cummins going in this series 3/164, Now it starts!

Put a sock in it Mike. Give us all a break.
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Paddles - 17 Dec 2018 4:22 PM
baggygreenmania - 17 Dec 2018 4:20 PM

Yeah ---- this is a fair call...

But I like Pattinson's genuine swing ability and relentless aggression with accuracy - he really is a Dale Steyn type...

He will leave gaps in covers - because he is saying "I dare you to drive me"...

I recall several years back at a ODD match between VIC and Blues. Was at the SCG and there had been some rain previous day, so  pitch had been under the covers. Boy did h it have some life. This deck reminds me of it. Both Hazlewood and Pattinson put on a masterclass.. Most of their deliveries were unplayable. If memory serves Hazey beat Brad Hodge six balls in a row. Not sure if this was before or after Josh had his first stress injury. Would love to see coverage of that match again. The best bowling I have ever seen live.
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Kohli wanted to celebrate that Cummins' dismissal then realised he has to bat on it later....
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