WGMG: Let's break it down, fam. This post will refer back to an older post in this thread about a girl whom I'm crazy about. 

Moved to Tassie from Newy, didn't know a soul. Go down to my nearest pub to drown my sorrows and try and meet some people. Lo and behold, she's actually working there behind the bar. I could not believe my luck. Looking absolutely gorgeous as I remember. I go up to the bar and say hi. She remembers me and starts a convo, which I could barely hear over my heartbeat. She actually also seems anxious and seems happy to see me (let's face it I'm gorgeous). 

Talk to her a few different times and all goes well. She's even flirty and suggestive. Being to the idiot I am I barely reciprocate given my social anxiety (I really don't want to fuck this up and the luck of even seeing her again still shocks me). But she's still nice and friendly. I like her newest social media selfie, next day I see her and she's again friendly. She finishes her shift and I get drunk cos I'm lonely and have a bit of coin. In my haste, I message her an innocent request as to hang out sometime. Predictably, I'm left on read. Actually it's just that blue tick icon, so she technically hasn't read it. I'm heartbroken and confused. My one-itis has doomed me again. 

Next day she shows up for work. I go up and get a drink and see if she will avoid me. She doesn't. I'm served by someone else and she goes out of her way to say hi, giving the sexiest fuck eyes in living memory. The bar is busy as fuck so I can't build upon it. I get another drink half an hour later and she's suggestively dancing behind the bar half-looking at me right as I walk up and order. 

The next night she's on again (yes, I'm an alcoholic). Friendly and nice again. She even asks about how my writing's going (I told her about my in progress novels). I overhear her talking to another bartender about how I messaged her, and hear half a sentence from her indicating she probably won't write back. But then a few minutes later she comes out to get glasses/plates and smiles at me really nicely. 

I am utterly confused and desperate not to fuck this up. She is seriously beautiful and intelligent. I am the Olympic champion of overthinking so some advice would be great. Optimistically, she may just be sounding me out and taking it slow for whatever reason and my desperation is just damaging myself. Pessimistically, she's enjoying roping me along because she's most likely seeing someone else or she's a lesbian. 

tl;dr forever alone. 

^^  Ask her out mate.  (See previous post.)  You'll either crash and burn or she'll say yes.  At least you'll know one way or the other.

There's no way of sugar coating this.  You have to have a crack or you'll die wondering.

WGMG: Last week of work for the year. No-ones doing anything, but still have to pretend like you are.

Time is draggging

Could be worse.  You could have your arse hanging out rushing to complete a whole bunch of shit before work finishes for the year.  Meanwhile everyone else is already in holiday mode and not interested in your dramas.

WFMB:  Finished work last Friday.  Off for a month.

If those news websites had charged people for their content from the get go journalism wouldn't be in the gutter & fishing for clickbait.  

You get what you pay for.  

I used to overthink stuff as well. Looking back now on my late teens and 20's it's frustrating to realise how many decent sorts I could've had if I'd just played it cool.

So in this case I reckon you go all in and risk crashing down in flames. If you're like this when she's no more than that girl you see behind the bar, dating her wouldn't change anything. I know how it is to move to a new place and not know anybody, but you can't put all your eggs in this basket otherwise you'll push her away sooner or later anyhow. I'd take a "take it or leave it" attitude and give her the impression that you've got other options (even if it isn't the case). 

To add to this.  Found out today he is a mra  red pill  advocate.  Told him  I figured out why he is the way he is 

Glad to hear a continuation of this, Marconi. Amazing fate that she works at that bar. How long is a bloke supposed to build it up before asking? You've been there a few times with positive reaction but the confusion due to overhearing and the non reply (messenger or whatsapp? blue whatsapp ticks means it's read) to the message is a bit of a barrier somehow.

Perhaps she enjoys being chased and is probably doing it right in making you want more. Normally the bloke shouldn't go all in at the start and leave her wanting more but you snooze, you lose. I agree with the others and ask her. Perhaps having a drink with her after her shift could be an easier way in. If she straight out says no then all the suggestiveness has just been a play on you and you've saved yourself valuable time.

I got knocked back in a weaker way a few times by my girlfriend at the start when she lived across the street but after I said we're going to meet in 5mins on the square and went offline she came out. If she says no and it sounds weak, how much of a no is it really? A strong 'stop asking me' is probably an indication she's seeing someone or fancies girls. As you can see my post has an element of overthinking and I've already lost :D I'd like to challenge you for olympic gold at overthinking. I need to do much less of it.

May I ask, is it Hobart or Launceston you're in or a smaller place?

Geez haha. Good response tho.

Ah yes, the Dunning-Kruger affect.

I can't say I know anybody like your co-worker (based on what you've told us here), but I do know of people who'd be closer to the other end of the bell-curve. Always good for a laugh- especially when they accuse other people of being "dumb" and show how little self-awareness they have...

It's in Launceston, lovely city, pretty much everything is in walking distance. 

I talked to someone who knows her better: apparently going through some shit, recently broke off with the Pentecostals a few years ago, confirmed she's a really good person but a bit lost atm, constantly works to keep herself busy. Saw her last night. Was friendly again but seemed anxious. She was having a dart before her shift and started doing that leg tick when I sat down and joined. From my probably wrong point of view: she likes me and is down to tango but not for anything serious. It just sucks that I can't get a good convo in, there's always someone else around, she's always busy and she won't reply via message. The blues of two people with anxiety.  

I spelt a word wrong.  Wow someone is holier than thou.  If you must know my Christian co worker is a know all who has basically been told by the owner of my company they only reason why he still has a job is because he can lift heavy shit . 

Unintentionally came across that apparent murder video of the camper girls in Morocco. Autoplay and just saw lots of blood. Some fucking channel shared it and it's come up on my feed. Thank fuck the sound was off. I'm absolutely haunted for the 5 seconds I saw and clicked away after realising what it was. Whatever you do, don't even think about finding it. Haunting.

The SJW's & their assorted left wing media hypocrites only get upset about women getting brutally murdered when it happens in a Western country.  

You clearly have no idea what the left believes in then if you think that's the case.

Yes, I was saying your co-worker sounds like a Dunning-Kruegar. 

I know what they believe, that's why I despise them all.   

One of many timeless beauties from the Chaser boys

You obviously don't.

Pretty flat sort of Christmas with gf family in German village once again. Been together for 8 years and done it 6 times and 2 in Oz. Maybe I'm being a bit hard but I find it an average to poor sort of hosting. Could be better, could be worse. 

Great food but needed over 2 hours to open presents which gets pretty boring after a while with terrible jokes and a lethargic sort of mood. Clock had already hit 10pm when we normally get a game or something going. What's annoying is they sit there for a good half hour in a daze wondering what to play. No decisiveness and my firm suggestions fall upon deaf ears. During this time there are about 30 candles on sucking all the oxygen. I open a window and they moan the draught will make them sick. Don't get me started on Germans and draughts. 

Then time for bed. A bunch of adults need an hour to work out who can sleep where and daze about without any clear plan. Just find it totally odd. Their planning has intensity in all the wrong places. The food is essentially cooking on its own, table is set and everyone willing to help but there's this rejection of having others getting too involved. You don't want to laze on the couch and appear unwilling to help but you get ignored anyway. Stubbornness is probably the word here.

This year the water boiler has finally carked it after being installed in 1972. No tradesman understandably available until new year so most with washed faces and less refreshed. Yes, others are doing it much tougher but I can tell everyone is a bit grumbled by the washing issue.

We all come down to have some breakfast around 10am. German breakfast is easily the most over the top thing in existent. Hundreds of cheese and salami packets and raw fish with bread rolls. Juice, milk and water bottles scattered on the table. It's uncomfortably crowded with stuff everywhere which makes service yourself a chore. Over half the stuff isn't even touched. Once full everyone sits for about 30min with no idea what to say sipping their tea. Cue the odd anti brexit or USA is bad comment which just makes the atmosphere worse. It'd be nice if Germans were equally critical of all the issues their systems have here. They'll learn the hard way when they retire.

Games at midday but they're complicated and dull on a board which seems to have a trivial sort of goal. Logic based while everyone is tired is a bad call. 

It ebs and flows. Some moments lift up and it's a bit enjoyable and others drop down. There's just too much indecisiveness and a hint of stubbornness that leads to a low energy and boring sort of time. 

So how was your Christmas? 

Pardon me but for breakfast that just sounds nauseating.  :crazy:  

Post Christmas gorge yesterday at our place we just all slept & nibbled on leftover cherries & mangos during the course of the day.     

I don't want to rub it in, but my Christmas would belong in the WFYB thread, not this one.

The only thing that I could say GMG is that all three bets I put on at Randwick yesterday fell flat. My mates' friend who's a big-time gambler gave us his three recommendations for winners. 2 of them got up. The one that didn't was the one I put money on FFS. Aside from that, $6 Tooheys Olds in the members bar, eye candy everywhere and beautiful weather. Can't complain.

No worries. European Xmas sucks anyway. It's never white rather grey and wet these days. Miss Aussie Xmas.

I just find this meal time a massive chore as it's a 2 hour investment. I'd much rather something where you serve yourself. I think it's bad because you're rooted to the same spot for the next 2 hours. There's no real mingling or movement and it just goes overtime to the point of senselessness. Being together for the sake of it.

WGMG: With the Christmas theme,  I'm not a huge fan in the first place but i thought this one would be better given its out daughters first. 

We had my wife's family over for presents in the morning,  but some didn't show because i had a go at them 2 weeks ago for taking our daughter out when they knew that they had chest infections,  as much as i know that i shouldn't lock my child away from getting sick. . Chest infections aren't something a 10 month old should deal with,  anyhow, they didn't show because of something that clearly had passed, plus we were seeing them later in the day with the extended family. 

We then move on to seeing my wifes dad for a pancake breakfast at his place,  but that was shit because we were 15 minutes late (nappy explosion) we missed breakfast... 15 minutes!!!

Then off to my wife's aunts for lunch,  overcooked and cold pork, chicken and turkey, no ham followed by a supermarket pav, safe to say when you don't even like Christmas lunch at the best of times... this was utter garbage... and all the while our daughter couldn't even play on the floor because her cousin brought her two german shepherds, in which one needs acl surgery and the other just had plates put in its leg because they attacked each other. 

Then after that we were supposed to have some good mates coming to stay from Adelaide,  they didn't get here till 10pm....

And I'm currently suffering the ill affects of a dodgy curry... 

Fucking great week!

Rough. At least I get waited for with breakfast. Went our with her dad (parents divorced) for a dinner last night. Sublime. 2 and a half hours. No bullshit. Get in, order, chat, eat and round up and leave. The other side of the family would purposely make it go to midnight for 'value.'

WGMG: No I'm Eugene!

-PB

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