We could have got Bielsa, instead we get this fraud who has failed at every opportunity he has had in Asia.

Wouldn't be the first time a tournament winner has crashed out in the group stages. Hell, some never qualified in the WC.

GA is certainly heading that way. Up to him I guess, but just shows that he is very player specific. No doubt, he knows some players don't warm to him.

That is a coaching flaw in my opinion. Most good ones are clever at willing players on to play better/get better. 

Fly aloisi out 

Will there be another “worldwide search” if GA was to lose his job?

Arnold was signed for 4 years on 1.4 million per year. Do people honestly think we can just go and pay him out over 5 million cash and then go and hire a better coach on more money we don't have?

He never should have been signed to 4 years but what is done is done. Stick with him, miss the world cup, then start over and hope an independent aleague has had enough years in operation to fill the glaring fucking hole we have in our current pathway.

I'm not saying his lack of English was the only reason we didn't hire him, but it certainly was one of the issues raised by FFA at the time. And it turned out pretty funny watchng him march straight into a place where you probably ought to know a bit of fucking English, Yorkshire, and takes Leeds to the top of the championship.

I should hope that there would be performance criteria that would give the FFA an out. Not making it out of the group (or even coming third) should be grounds for instant termination.

Yep tremendous cock up as usual from the FFA.

This over-reaction says two things. Many of you have missed the vast improvements in Asian football since we joined the AFC - you are very arrogant and/or ignorant for missing this.

And you fail to acknowledge the limited preparation Arnie has had with the national team and the many injuries and retirements to key players. At least give Arnie and the team this tournament before you continue with this ‘Arnie out’ rubbish.

even if we dont get out of the group, i want him in.

I'd hope so too but this is the FFA... 

If only we have Bielsa. Ridiculous that English language experience is measure.

Maybe he should of taken the job when offered for the world Cup where he actually could have had more time with the players by now. 

After some quick Googling, I realise that Bielsa might be on around 6m pounds a year...

I think in Australia we are best suited to always hire an international coach. Graham Arnold and it was the same with Ange all have hidden agendas in terms of picking squads. Look at how many players in this squad are linked to GA from previous teams his coached, Sainsbury is never going to get dropped its his son in law FFS. It's also humerous to see the Foxsports team to be uncritical about the performance because Robbie Slater is GA best mate.

Australian football is to smaller community and to agenda driven, thus is probably also the reason why GA was appointed so it speaks for itsself.

I heard fox commentators say that GA did not have Terry Antonis or James Troisi inside Australia's top 50.
If that is the case then he clearly "does not know what he is doing".
Terry should have gone.
James (on this years form) should also be in the mix. I know a lot of people do not rate him any more but you probably have not been watching all of his games this season. People are judging him on last year and not his current form. 

Lets be honest. GA was only a success at SFC due to them being 'the pets' of the league. He really does not have much coaching talent. 

Vast improvements? Out football is the worst it has ever been... 

The HAL development is a lot worst then the NSL weather you like it or not the HAL is cost ineffective & inefficient at actually producing players 

Our National team players and manager is some of the highest paid in the world yet we have just lost to a nation ranked below the top 100..... 

Yeah we make the WC more often thats not because we have improved it is because the bar has been lowered weather you liked it or not playing the fifth ranked South American team was a lot harder then qualifying though asia in which only two teams have an real pedigree and it has 4.5 sports 

Arnie doesn't deserve this tournament because he had 2007 to show he could do it and he clearly couldn't! the difference is in 2007 he has a MUCH better team in which he should of Won the Asian cup with easy or at least made the final. You and football fans like are smoking the same pipe Gallop is on thinking that GA 'will come good' he wont EVEN in the HAL he was shit house in the ACL...

The FFA are never going to be able to afford an international manager of any pedigree so stop dreaming. 

There is zero evidence of the FFA ever paying for a top European coach. Hiddink was basically a donation from the pockets of Frank Lowy and was essentially for the WC only. 

Pim & Holger is about the level we can afford and they were useless. 

And you've just smashed it son.
"HAL cost ineffective & inefficient" absolutely.
National Team coach and support staff costs right up there with the elite.
Basically no bang for our buck

If Arnold stays on as manager for the World Cup qualifiers, guaranteed Australia will NOT qualify for the next World Cup.

They will if Infantino gets his 48 team world cup up which will only make matters worse when we are even shitter and still qualify.

Calm down. We've always struggled in the middle east, plus we're missing half of our starting 11. It will be different when Leckie, Arzani, Boyle, Nabbout and Mooy come back. We should still qualify with or without Arnold. 

I'll wait to the end of our tournament for this, but if we keep playing like this he can't last long.

The problem with A League coaches is the same as A League players

In a normal league there is competition for places in the big clubs, and the best of these are the ones that get the gig abroad

Because the A League is balanced, each club has 3-4 big fish in a small pond players who dont have to earn their place. Some team is always going to win the season and there is a sense of inevitability which players then get poached. But they may not necessarily be good. Take Nabbout for instance

And its the same with coaches. Somebody wins the league - oh wow, this coach must be great, and they get the NT gig. If it wasnt Arnold it would have been Popovic. Even Muscat had his name mentioned. All based on the inevitability that some team is going to win

The A League is not a competitive league. The NSL, with a fraction of the budget, was a competitive league (which is why it was producing better players)

It should not be used to determine which players are the best and which coaches are the best

Have been saying this for ages. The A-league is no yardstick for the National Team.

Unless a coach wins the ACL or the league in another country, then they should not be considered. 

My view is that the honour of representing your country has been devalued so much over the years that we now have effectively created an ecosystem that rewards mediocrity. 

FMD the sky is falling after one match lol.
The biggest problem facing the Socceroos is the lack of player quality. As much as I dislike the man I say give him till the end of the Cup before the hanging.

yes with half a million spent on "consultants" also.

but Poppa won the ACL

if popovic wins the league, id bring him in before the qualifiers start.

Poppa had a bad run after that. I also think Poppa needed to develop as a coach a bit more before the NT gig. The first 2-3 seasons of WSW play wasn't a sustained strategy and he was trying to evolve afterwards.