It's got nothing to do with trolling.

I have been watching football in Australia since the 80s. I actually feel despondent in how the game has evolved in the last 10 years. There are many people who see this as well.

What I would like to see is a stronger National Competition. And of course a stronger NT that does Australia proud.

I feel the National Competition has many hand brakes and is under achieving. I also believe we are not producing the players we use to. I like to know why.

This is agenda driven stuff, mainly using a tool of the Socceroos to push his agenda.

I have watched football in Australia & especially the Socceroos since 1974 World cup & outside of Viduka & Kewell, I see no better players in our golden generation then are playing now.
Is Bresc better then Mooy, Emerton better then Leckie or Zelic better then Sainsbury, all a matter of opinion, but with Kewell & Dukes, if blind Freddy can say they are better, those 2 are the only players close to world class, we have ever produced.

 The difference is that the Asians are changing, the football is changing. Australia used to overpower our Asian counterparts with fitness, strength & pace, but now you see that changing in Asia, theya re producing highly skilled players with strength, pace & fitness,  plus Australia has also changed, we are not just replying our physical attributes & picking players with skills as well.

If not trolling, definitely agenda driven.

Its quite funny how the arab commentators dont even pretend to be objective like ours. No attempt at all to hide their biases.

Is that some sort of joke?

the 2002 and 2006 squads are man for man better in every position than this squad.

Is Bresc better than Mooy?  Yeah he is.  But it would be Paul Okon who would be in Mooy's deep laying playmaker role. No comparison: Okon>>>>Mooy

Emerton is better than Leckie.  People can only remember that last year or so of Emerton's career.  Few remember how he was able to play with the ball at his feet in his days at .Feyenoord and 10 years in the EPL after. Its an insult to him to put Leckie ahead of him.

Is Zelic better than Sainsbury?  Now you're just trolling.

I was dissapointed with large chunks of that match. We are too brittle defensively. But at least we are creating goal scoring opportunities. Ikon and Mabil have been our tournament revelations so far. And to be fair, this is a pretty inexperienced squad missing a number of players with injury and two notable retirees. We always wondered how we would score goals after Timmy and Jedi left the scene, and several players are stepping up. All things considered, while there's lots to work on, Arnie has laid some good foundations for the WC qualifying campaign, whatever happens in the next match, and the last two matches have shown that we can beat Middle Eastern teams in their backyard!

You know what I was about to post Saudi Arabia's underwhelming results pretty much since we have been in asia. Losing to teams at home , not even making it out of the group at the last gulf cup. In this group

Team	Pld	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	Pts
Oman	3	2	0	1	3	1	+2	6
United Arab Emirates	3	1	2	0	1	0	+1	5
Saudi Arabia	3	1	1	1	2	3	−1	4
Kuwait	3	0	1	2	1	3	−2	1

The reality is Saudi Arabia are slightly better than the rest of the middle east but not by much. They've never dominated against the shit teams like oman and kuwait which we have smashed many times playing against them. The last 2 times we've played against kuwait one time at home in the last asian cup we beat them 4-1. In october last year we played kuwait in kuwait beat them 4-0. Even oman we recently beat them 5-0 in the middle east, Saudi Arabia never gets those sorts of results against those sorts of middle eastern teams. Even at home, they lose to shit kickers like bahrain and uae all the time.

We've never lost to a middle eastern team at home unless you include the a-league team that lost to kuwait under pim. 


I don't think mouflon is a troll, I literally think he's made a call that australia will struggle and lose the match. Then we won it and he's too embarassed to admit he's an idiot, and then when I pulled him up on the underwhelming results that japan has had like beating turkmenistan 3-2 he doesn't want to admit that 

A) Australia has always been one of the dominant teams in asia even at our worst 
or
B)  The teams in asia that he says we will struggle against (like saudi arabia) constantly have poor results against teams we usually smash

 

lol

meanwhile how good are syria at getting dodgy pens

remember that one where leckie jumped into the air and it was somehow a pen

Just checked APOEL and they have so many foreigners. Jordan's best player is there too. 

The goal by Mabil was special. Great shot. The play of Rogic was excellent, including his tracking back. Grant continues to impress me, even against stronger opposition. Irvine did a lot of work off the ball - it went over his head a lot - but was decisive in the tackle. Maybe our CB's should watch how the opposing CB's stay close to Maclaren and deny him the space to run  or shoot. They give the #9's far too much space.

People are complaining about the ref., yet it was him who (rightly) denied the Syrians their first "goal", which would have been allowed by a lot of refs. Had that been given, it would have been a totally different ball game!

They had a pretty clear cut chance of a handball penalty that wasn't given.

This is agenda driven stuff, mainly using a tool of the Socceroos to push his agenda.

I have watched football in Australia & especially the Socceroos since 1974 World cup & outside of Viduka & Kewell, I see no better players in our golden generation then are playing now.
Is Bresc better then Mooy, Emerton better then Leckie or Zelic better then Sainsbury, all a matter of opinion, but with Kewell & Dukes, if blind Freddy can say they are better, those 2 are the only players close to world class, we have ever produced.

 The difference is that the Asians are changing, the football is changing. Australia used to overpower our Asian counterparts with fitness, strength & pace, but now you see that changing in Asia, theya re producing highly skilled players with strength, pace & fitness,  plus Australia has also changed, we are not just replying our physical attributes & picking players with skills as well.

If not trolling, definitely agenda driven.

6 months ago Saudi Arabia lost 5-0 to Russia.

Do you honestly think Australia would of lost to Russia 5-0 at that tournament?

Why I am bothering I don't know. You are nothing but a troll and to argue otherwise is a waste of time on your part. 

Is that some sort of joke?

the 2002 and 2006 squads are man for man better in every position than this squad.

Is Bresc better than Mooy?  Yeah he is.  But it would be Paul Okon who would be in Mooy's deep laying playmaker role. No comparison: Okon>>>>Mooy

Emerton is better than Leckie.  People can only remember that last year or so of Emerton's career.  Few remember how he was able to play with the ball at his feet in his days at .Feyenoord and 10 years in the EPL after. Its an insult to him to put Leckie ahead of him.

Is Zelic better than Sainsbury?  Now you're just trolling.

The make the Kiwi commentators sound objective. Best part of Rogic's late goal was how downcast the commentators sounded all of a sudden. No late winner for Syria, no jizzing in their pants praising Allah for the goal for 5 minutes and kissing the turf. Glorious.

This extreme idiot is ruining the board for me. Since everyone is humouring him, the threads become pretty much unreadable. And we wonder why traffic is down... 

I have watched football in Australia & especially the Socceroos since 1974 World cup & outside of Viduka & Kewell, I see no better players in our golden generation then are playing now.
Is Bresc better then Mooy, Emerton better then Leckie or Zelic better then Sainsbury, all a matter of opinion, but with Kewell & Dukes, if blind Freddy can say they are better, those 2 are the only players close to world class, we have ever produced.

 The difference is that the Asians are changing, the football is changing. Australia used to overpower our Asian counterparts with fitness, strength & pace, but now you see that changing in Asia, theya re producing highly skilled players with strength, pace & fitness,  plus Australia has also changed, we are not just replying our physical attributes & picking players with skills as well.

They had a pretty clear cut chance of a handball penalty that wasn't given.

I have to agree with Robbos.

Although there is a degree of veneration where fans adulate  names and reputations, when one views  footage of the GG, certainly the ones who never played World Cup football, and even the ones who did, who improved consequently, the immeasurably better coaching they've had since 2005, and the exhaustive football performance  criteria that players are evaluated by, apart from not scoring goals, the current Socceroos would  probably outplay the GGs.

When one views the older videos, the former Socceroo team turned the ball over so much, even in the WC of 2006. 

The current Socceroo unit are battle hardened, constantly being forced to play overseas in tough conditions. They are usually more cohesive as a unit.

It has constantly been discussed in  FFA coach  education  in Australia about how the Asian teams are improving , tactically and structurally. It is far easier for our footballers to go to the moderate leagues overseas in Europe. Many Asians are not culturally comfortable wit living in many European countries.

They also play a lot of international football against neighbours. They often have long caps are and are very familiar with each other. This generally equates to team cohesion.

These changing facets of the ever evolving international  football scenario are probably not recognised enough by enough people in Australia who follow football.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I think that was actually a decent call by the ref. He seemed to of had a good view and honestly, nobody can argue Milligan deliberately played the ball onto his arm after a poor touch. His arms were in that position before he tried to clear it. 

Gee Decentric. You can be battle hardened all you like but the GG were players that made the big time in Europe and the current team is struggling against the likes of Jordan, and Syria.

So the improved coaching is getting the results required. Are we results driven or in a state of delusion?

This extreme idiot is ruining the board for me. Since everyone is humouring him, the threads become pretty much unreadable. And we wonder why traffic is down...