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+x+x+x+xJust in case SBS' relationship with the A-League hadn't hit rock bottom, latest quote from Lucy Zelic (tweeted by Michael Cain): "Pormoting the A-League at the moment would be like pudhing shit up a hill. When it comes to tv rights - this code is like the desparete woman at the bar at the end of the night." Seriously? You got a link to that?? https://twitter.com/caineyten/status/1174966367872663552?s=20 Man she sounds bitter ... and yet ABC will go where SBS won’t? If only we knew what she knew...
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+x+x+x+x+xJust in case SBS' relationship with the A-League hadn't hit rock bottom, latest quote from Lucy Zelic (tweeted by Michael Cain): "Pormoting the A-League at the moment would be like pudhing shit up a hill. When it comes to tv rights - this code is like the desparete woman at the bar at the end of the night." Seriously? You got a link to that?? https://twitter.com/caineyten/status/1174966367872663552?s=20 Man she sounds bitter ... and yet ABC will go where SBS won’t? If only we knew what she knew... Ahhh, the quote that keeps on giving ... 😂
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Ironic that Lucy Z uses such a profoundly misogynistic metaphor to denigrate the A League when she has herself been horribly trolled by misogynistic males in the past.
She's one bitter, angry lady, and this quote neatly illustrates just why she was the wrong person for the job at SBS - it's inaccurate, emotive, tasteless, offensive, unprofessional and lacking in any semblance of sound judgement.
While she is at it likening the A League to a "desperate woman" in a bar, she might consider whether her notorious Twitter profile pic might be, under the circumstances, a notably ill-judged piece of image branding.
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+xIronic that Lucy Z uses such a profoundly misogynistic metaphor to denigrate the A League. She's one bitter, angry lady, and this quote neatly illustrates just why she was the wrong person for the job at SBS - it's inaccurate, emotive, tasteless, offensive, unprofessional and lacking in any semblance of sound judgement. While she is at it likening the A League to a "desperate woman" in a bar, she might consider whether her notorious Twitter profile pic might be, under the circumstances, a notably ill-judged piece of image branding.
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+xIronic that Lucy Z uses such a profoundly misogynistic metaphor to denigrate the A League when she has herself been horribly trolled by misogynistic males in the past. She's one bitter, angry lady, and this quote neatly illustrates just why she was the wrong person for the job at SBS - it's inaccurate, emotive, tasteless, offensive, unprofessional and lacking in any semblance of sound judgement. While she is at it likening the A League to a "desperate woman" in a bar, she might consider whether her notorious Twitter profile pic might be, under the circumstances, a notably ill-judged piece of image branding. +1
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+xIronic that Lucy Z uses such a profoundly misogynistic metaphor to denigrate the A League when she has herself been horribly trolled by misogynistic males in the past. She's one bitter, angry lady, and this quote neatly illustrates just why she was the wrong person for the job at SBS - it's inaccurate, emotive, tasteless, offensive, unprofessional and lacking in any semblance of sound judgement. While she is at it likening the A League to a "desperate woman" in a bar, she might consider whether her notorious Twitter profile pic might be, under the circumstances, a notably ill-judged piece of image branding. Hit the nail on the head here. SBS don't do anything for football anymore, but I guess the next smug, self-righteous essay from Lucy about how SBS built football in this country is just around the corner. To quote Eddie Murphy: "What have you done for me lately?"
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The A-League could be headed to ABC if speculation in The Australian proves correct.
Rumours suggest that while FOX Sports will continue to broadcast all A-League, W-League, Socceroos and Matildas matches none of the commercial FTA networks bid for the rights with the Football Federation of Australia.
The Australian suggests a new deal with the ABC will see an A-League game broadcast on ABC at 5pm on Saturday while the W-League would return to the network at 4pm on Sundays under a possible two-year deal.
This would also put ABC in the running to pick up free-to-air rights for Socceroos qualifiers and the Matildas international friendlies.
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+x[quote]Ironic that Lucy Z uses such a profoundly misogynistic metaphor to denigrate the A League when she has herself been horribly trolled by misogynistic males in the past.
She contributed to a national team coach losing their job & slandered him by insinuation. But yeah it's all the fault of those men.
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Yeah , this is podcast though. Don't take it personal . On TV she's quite respectful and professional. She is a fan of the game too.
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+xThe A-League could be headed to ABC if speculation in The Australian proves correct. Rumours suggest that while FOX Sports will continue to broadcast all A-League, W-League, Socceroos and Matildas matches none of the commercial FTA networks bid for the rights with the Football Federation of Australia. The Australian suggests a new deal with the ABC will see an A-League game broadcast on ABC at 5pm on Saturday while the W-League would return to the network at 4pm on Sundays under a possible two-year deal. This would also put ABC in the running to pick up free-to-air rights for Socceroos qualifiers and the Matildas international friendlies. If it comes to pass that the ABC has both the W-League & A-League, and then gets Socceroo & Matilda matches .... that has the potential to be very beneficial . The ABC, aside form its FTA broadcasting, has the largest radio network in the country and one of the biggest streaming platforms.. FFA stuffed both the last FTA deals.... 10 or CBS where in open warfare with Fox and were forced to take the A-League and provided no promotion... the SBS deal was stuffed up on both sides at the start but FFA openly saying they did not want SBS and talking about 9, and giving the Asian cup to the ABC was arguably the biggest media mistake of any code in living memory... Gallop should have been fired over his management of the SBS relationship... while SBS IMO anyway were being difficult in many ways equally they we not hopeless .... Gallop needed to explain and provide analysis rather than try to demand SBS bend to his wants.. My fear is the ABC will be seen as a short term solution and not a long term broadcast partner... If we go with the ABC for A-League, W-League, Socceroo & Matilda matches then lets embrace the ABC, as they have huge and varied broadcast platforms .. Never forget they also have a huge influence with all governments as well as within the broader media industry. If we get the ABC broadcast then we need indy hal & FFA to do everything they can to support the ABC.... If this happens.... I hope we don't stuff up
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WE all have to be honest here, if we end up at the ABC, it's because no one else wants us.
To be with the only channel that doesn't allow any form of advertising, which only shows 2nd tier sports as a general rule, cannot be viewed as a good thing.
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+xWE all have to be honest here, if we end up at the ABC, it's because no one else wants us. To be with the only channel that doesn't allow any form of advertising, which only shows 2nd tier sports as a general rule, cannot be viewed as a good thing. Yes indeed. The commercial networks have quite rightly, based on the figures from last season, formed the view that a commercially viable television broadcast audience for the A League doesn't exist. That itself is a result of endless mismanagement from FFA, beginning with Lowy snr's distastrous tilt at the WC windmill, which starved the A League of managment resources at a critical time. I really don't know how the competition recovers from a last ditch position like the ABC. The message is blindingly obvious. The A League is very, very lucky that Fox was locked into such a long contract, because I doubt that another deal would be forthcoming if renewal was now.
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+xWE all have to be honest here, if we end up at the ABC, it's because no one else wants us. To be with the only channel that doesn't allow any form of advertising, which only shows 2nd tier sports as a general rule, cannot be viewed as a good thing. It really doesn't matter. It's up to the A-league and the teams themselves to do the advertising now. If GoT were on ABC you think people wouldn't watch because it's not the most popular FTA channel? Provided the quality is good, people will come in time.
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ABC is perfect, although at least two games would have been preferable. The purpose of a FTA deal for us isn't to make money, it is to give us exposure to a national audience and grow interest and acceptance of the league. Being part of the national broadcaster and the audience it has shouldn't be underestimated. In time if we can start to grow our ratings we might be able to sell our FTA rights but at the moment that shouldn't be the focus.
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+xJust in case SBS' relationship with the A-League hadn't hit rock bottom, latest quote from Lucy Zelic (tweeted by Michael Cain): "Pormoting the A-League at the moment would be like pudhing shit up a hill. When it comes to tv rights - this code is like the desparete woman at the bar at the end of the night." The boardroom war was squarely to blame for this, the seperation of the A League from FFA resulted as the A League was not operating to its true potential.This had to come to a head with too many factons at loggerheads. This resulted in further growth of the code that needed to happen. Yes till now, promoting the A League in recent times, had been a process of one step forward and two steps backward. If Lucy was to take these findings that I have mentioned into consideration, then this season is a great opportunity to talk the A League up, it has a freshness about it, compared to the last 3-4 years which had a strong stench about it. In taking the negative approach, Lucy is that desperate woman at the end of the journalist's bar as her channel is no longer going to show games, instead, tha ABC will. Also, she has had an agenda it seems, the fact she was heavily criticised for her pronunciation of footballer's names. Furthermore, does she own a Socceroos or Matildas Jersey? She owns multiple Croatian merchandise that she wears on t.v. There is no coinsidence to her sudden drop in standards when expressing herself about Australian football. I. like many, had empathy for her during her tough times recently, getting criticised unfairly. I hope now her sarcasm will infact stop as she can only come off worse by continuing in this way in the media, including her expression on podcasts.
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Wife wanted to watch the Masked Singer tonight .... 10 still showing the A-League in their promo's... weird ...
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two wrongs never make a right .... old saying but very true....
Lucy's hhhmmm problem / issue or whatever name you wish to call it is ... she is loyal to the core to the Craig Foster view of world and Australian Football ... she seems to feel along with Craig a great injustice has been done to SBS and that SBS is the home and place of the true Believer's .. further that within the walls of SBS lies the solution to all of Footballs ills.
This leads Lucy to attack almost anything FFA say or do ... and many club managements ...
I actually feel sorry for her as I believe she has talent but is being encouraged by bitter folks who believe they know best... this means when she has a valid point is going to get lost as her past will not show balance ...
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+xABC is perfect, although at least two games would have been preferable. The purpose of a FTA deal for us isn't to make money, it is to give us exposure to a national audience and grow interest and acceptance of the league. Being part of the national broadcaster and the audience it has shouldn't be underestimated. In time if we can start to grow our ratings we might be able to sell our FTA rights but at the moment that shouldn't be the focus. That is it. ABC by simply having a wider reach will increase your viewership, not to mention the accessibility of it’s main channel. Hopefully this will be Matilda’s and Socceroos too. From there you can grow.
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+x+xABC is perfect, although at least two games would have been preferable. The purpose of a FTA deal for us isn't to make money, it is to give us exposure to a national audience and grow interest and acceptance of the league. Being part of the national broadcaster and the audience it has shouldn't be underestimated. In time if we can start to grow our ratings we might be able to sell our FTA rights but at the moment that shouldn't be the focus. That is it. ABC by simply having a wider reach will increase your viewership, not to mention the accessibility of it’s main channel. Hopefully this will be Matilda’s and Socceroos too. From there you can grow. It depends who’s doing the negotiating - Fox, FFA or Clubs? If its just low-cost drop in content for a Saturday arvo graveyard slot then the whole concept is just a holding position until something better comes along. If however its going to be part of ABC’s broadcast portfolio and gets air time, promotion, features in tv news coverage, and creates content for ABC radio and social media then it’s probably a very good deal.
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+x+x+xABC is perfect, although at least two games would have been preferable. The purpose of a FTA deal for us isn't to make money, it is to give us exposure to a national audience and grow interest and acceptance of the league. Being part of the national broadcaster and the audience it has shouldn't be underestimated. In time if we can start to grow our ratings we might be able to sell our FTA rights but at the moment that shouldn't be the focus. That is it. ABC by simply having a wider reach will increase your viewership, not to mention the accessibility of it’s main channel. Hopefully this will be Matilda’s and Socceroos too. From there you can grow. It depends who’s doing the negotiating - Fox, FFA or Clubs? If its just low-cost drop in content for a Saturday arvo graveyard slot then the whole concept is just a holding position until something better comes along. If however its going to be part of ABC’s broadcast portfolio and gets air time, promotion, features in tv news coverage, and creates content for ABC radio and social media then it’s probably a very good deal. This is true, could be worth it for the League to offer to fund a presentation, perhaps produce it itself and dip its feet into gaining control over its own production.
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+x+x+xABC is perfect, although at least two games would have been preferable. The purpose of a FTA deal for us isn't to make money, it is to give us exposure to a national audience and grow interest and acceptance of the league. Being part of the national broadcaster and the audience it has shouldn't be underestimated. In time if we can start to grow our ratings we might be able to sell our FTA rights but at the moment that shouldn't be the focus. That is it. ABC by simply having a wider reach will increase your viewership, not to mention the accessibility of it’s main channel. Hopefully this will be Matilda’s and Socceroos too. From there you can grow. It depends who’s doing the negotiating - Fox, FFA or Clubs? If its just low-cost drop in content for a Saturday arvo graveyard slot then the whole concept is just a holding position until something better comes along. If however its going to be part of ABC’s broadcast portfolio and gets air time, promotion, features in tv news coverage, and creates content for ABC radio and social media then it’s probably a very good deal. ABC W-League games outrated A-league games hidden on subsidiary channels suggests the ABC are a better option. It is also incumbent on the clubs to ensure we are showing a good product. Moving the bigger games to an earlier time slot would be great if they do it.
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Right now I'm looking at a Foxtel promo, which reads: Here comes Foxtel's big Summer of Sport.
Ok, great, no doubt this poster is going to promote our comp, clearly, we're a mainstay of Foxtel's Summer programming.
There's a picture of cricketers, racing cars, basketballer, gridiron, even rugby...but no football!
Then there are four dot points: * Every sesseion of the Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000 * Every match, every nation of Rugby world cup 2019 * Every ball of the Domain Test Series and Gillette T20INTL series * More US sport than anywhere else
But no mention of football!!
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+xWE all have to be honest here, if we end up at the ABC, it's because no one else wants us. To be with the only channel that doesn't allow any form of advertising, which only shows 2nd tier sports as a general rule, cannot be viewed as a good thing. sounding like a broken record here, but this. to be on a non-commercial TV station is disastrous. we bagged the NBL's FTA TV deal because they are paying for it, but they are getting 2 games on FTA compared to our 1. perception is everything. and perception is that our league is on the nose.
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+xRight now I'm looking at a Foxtel promo, which reads: Here comes Foxtel's big Summer of Sport. Ok, great, no doubt this poster is going to promote our comp, clearly, we're a mainstay of Foxtel's Summer programming. There's a picture of cricketers, racing cars, basketballer, gridiron, even rugby...but no football! Then there are four dot points: * Every sesseion of the Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000 * Every match, every nation of Rugby world cup 2019 * Every ball of the Domain Test Series and Gillette T20INTL series * More US sport than anywhere else But no mention of football!! Yeah, I saw this but I was also seeing Foxtel ads on YouTube that had A-league and Simon Hill shouting "Sydney FC!" featuring quite prominently.
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+x+xWE all have to be honest here, if we end up at the ABC, it's because no one else wants us. To be with the only channel that doesn't allow any form of advertising, which only shows 2nd tier sports as a general rule, cannot be viewed as a good thing. sounding like a broken record here, but this. to be on a non-commercial TV station is disastrous. we bagged the NBL's FTA TV deal because they are paying for it, but they are getting 2 games on FTA compared to our 1. perception is everything. and perception is that our league is on the nose. Its not a perception any more it is a reality. Only die hard fans are excited (ie Waz) but majority of the football people I know (me included) are very meh about this season. If there isn’t a big improvement this year then next season will be a catastrophe
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+x+x+xWE all have to be honest here, if we end up at the ABC, it's because no one else wants us. To be with the only channel that doesn't allow any form of advertising, which only shows 2nd tier sports as a general rule, cannot be viewed as a good thing. sounding like a broken record here, but this. to be on a non-commercial TV station is disastrous. we bagged the NBL's FTA TV deal because they are paying for it, but they are getting 2 games on FTA compared to our 1. perception is everything. and perception is that our league is on the nose. Its not a perception any more it is a reality. Only die hard fans are excited (ie Waz) but majority of the football people I know (me included) are very meh about this season. If there isn’t a big improvement this year then next season will be a catastrophe Please point out where I’m excited by this? Id be happy with no FTA as it’s only old fuckers and people who like to complain about the Sokkas poor FTA ratings that think FTA is important. For our code the FTA boat has sailed and we’d be better off putting effort into proper content for social platforms and streaming. I have a 17 year old boy who hasn’t watched a day of FTA in his life, probably can’t even name the channels even. That is our audience and ABC, C10, NINE, (even in glorious f’kin HD) won’t reach them. The sooner we get off this distraction calked FTA the better.
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+x+x+xWE all have to be honest here, if we end up at the ABC, it's because no one else wants us. To be with the only channel that doesn't allow any form of advertising, which only shows 2nd tier sports as a general rule, cannot be viewed as a good thing. sounding like a broken record here, but this. to be on a non-commercial TV station is disastrous. we bagged the NBL's FTA TV deal because they are paying for it, but they are getting 2 games on FTA compared to our 1. perception is everything. and perception is that our league is on the nose. Its not a perception any more it is a reality. Only die hard fans are excited (ie Waz) but majority of the football people I know (me included) are very meh about this season. If there isn’t a big improvement this year then next season will be a catastrophe just to clarify what is big improvement for this season mean? do you want to see close games? teams not be crap? young players breaking in? big crowds or tv ratings? goals like mcgrees being scored?
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+x+x+x+xWE all have to be honest here, if we end up at the ABC, it's because no one else wants us. To be with the only channel that doesn't allow any form of advertising, which only shows 2nd tier sports as a general rule, cannot be viewed as a good thing. sounding like a broken record here, but this. to be on a non-commercial TV station is disastrous. we bagged the NBL's FTA TV deal because they are paying for it, but they are getting 2 games on FTA compared to our 1. perception is everything. and perception is that our league is on the nose. Its not a perception any more it is a reality. Only die hard fans are excited (ie Waz) but majority of the football people I know (me included) are very meh about this season. If there isn’t a big improvement this year then next season will be a catastrophe Please point out where I’m excited by this? Id be happy with no FTA as it’s only old fuckers and people who like to complain about the Sokkas poor FTA ratings that think FTA is important. For our code the FTA boat has sailed and we’d be better off putting effort into proper content for social platforms and streaming. I have a 17 year old boy who hasn’t watched a day of FTA in his life, probably can’t even name the channels even. That is our audience and ABC, C10, NINE, (even in glorious f’kin HD) won’t reach them. The sooner we get off this distraction calked FTA the better. Wow you sure are a sensitive flower aren’t you! I was referring to your excitement for the coming season. as for new media vs old media, product is only worth something if there are eyeballs to watch, unfortunately for HAL people done watch when it’s for free so no matter how you deliver it, people wont watch it, let alone pay $20/m. pensioners jogging around the park just doesn’t excite anyone
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+x+x+x+x+xWE all have to be honest here, if we end up at the ABC, it's because no one else wants us. To be with the only channel that doesn't allow any form of advertising, which only shows 2nd tier sports as a general rule, cannot be viewed as a good thing. sounding like a broken record here, but this. to be on a non-commercial TV station is disastrous. we bagged the NBL's FTA TV deal because they are paying for it, but they are getting 2 games on FTA compared to our 1. perception is everything. and perception is that our league is on the nose. Its not a perception any more it is a reality. Only die hard fans are excited (ie Waz) but majority of the football people I know (me included) are very meh about this season. If there isn’t a big improvement this year then next season will be a catastrophe Please point out where I’m excited by this? Id be happy with no FTA as it’s only old fuckers and people who like to complain about the Sokkas poor FTA ratings that think FTA is important. For our code the FTA boat has sailed and we’d be better off putting effort into proper content for social platforms and streaming. I have a 17 year old boy who hasn’t watched a day of FTA in his life, probably can’t even name the channels even. That is our audience and ABC, C10, NINE, (even in glorious f’kin HD) won’t reach them. The sooner we get off this distraction calked FTA the better. Wow you sure are a sensitive flower aren’t you! I was referring to your excitement for the coming season. as for new media vs old media, product is only worth something if there are eyeballs to watch, unfortunately for HAL people done watch when it’s for free so no matter how you deliver it, people wont watch it, let alone pay $20/m. pensioners jogging around the park just doesn’t excite anyone lol, ask him a straight question and he gets all bent out of shape 😂 you’re not a “football person” you’re just Mr Football in disguise
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+x+x+x+xWE all have to be honest here, if we end up at the ABC, it's because no one else wants us. To be with the only channel that doesn't allow any form of advertising, which only shows 2nd tier sports as a general rule, cannot be viewed as a good thing. sounding like a broken record here, but this. to be on a non-commercial TV station is disastrous. we bagged the NBL's FTA TV deal because they are paying for it, but they are getting 2 games on FTA compared to our 1. perception is everything. and perception is that our league is on the nose. Its not a perception any more it is a reality. Only die hard fans are excited (ie Waz) but majority of the football people I know (me included) are very meh about this season. If there isn’t a big improvement this year then next season will be a catastrophe Please point out where I’m excited by this? Id be happy with no FTA as it’s only old fuckers and people who like to complain about the Sokkas poor FTA ratings that think FTA is important. For our code the FTA boat has sailed and we’d be better off putting effort into proper content for social platforms and streaming. I have a 17 year old boy who hasn’t watched a day of FTA in his life, probably can’t even name the channels even. That is our audience and ABC, C10, NINE, (even in glorious f’kin HD) won’t reach them. The sooner we get off this distraction calked FTA the better. This is very true. I've got four kids, two of them in their teens & I can definitely say that most kids DO NOT watch FTA, like Facebook it's for the wrinklies.
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