Australia vs Nepal/ Chinese Taipei 10/15.10


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Footballking55 - 12 Oct 2019 10:56 PM
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Except Gus only came into the Position after we had qualified.

No he didn't. He was in for the Solomons games, which was the Oceania wc play off. We won 2-1 in Honiara and then thrashed them here. Then we played Uruguay to qualify. All under Gus.
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ErogenousZone - 11 Oct 2019 3:05 PM
StiflersMom - 11 Oct 2019 11:21 AM

I notice this as well, people looking for the cutback but no one to cut it back to.  

In the first half at 27:51 Behich had a cutback pass for Irvine but he crossed to Maclaren who was well marked. 

In the 36th minute Behich had Irvine and Leckie available for a cutback pass but he did an ineffective cross.
In the 44th minute Behich again had Irvine and Leckie available for the cutback pass but once again he elected to play an ordinary cross, to which  Irvine raises his hands in air in frustration having not received the ball in a good scoring position.

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Ameryn74 - 12 Oct 2019 1:07 PM
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Why would you want to win a game of football by 10 goals? (Don't say goal difference as it won't be a factor).

The Mannschaft would so as to get every aspect of their team structure ready for much sterner tests. They'd probably get their B team to do it.
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redcup - 13 Oct 2019 11:30 AM
Ameryn74 - 12 Oct 2019 1:07 PM

The Mannschaft would so as to get every aspect of their team structure ready for much sterner tests. They'd probably get their B team to do it.

Well San Marino is the lowest ranked team in UEFA and  they have only been beaten by 10 goals twice in the last decade despite playing the best National teams in the world. I think 10+ goal wins are more of an AFC thing.

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Footballfirst - 13 Oct 2019 11:16 AM
ErogenousZone - 11 Oct 2019 3:05 PM

In the first half at 27:51 Behich had a cutback pass for Irvine but he crossed to Maclaren who was well marked. 

In the 36th minute Behich had Irvine and Leckie available for a cutback pass but he did an ineffective cross.
In the 44th minute Behich again had Irvine and Leckie available for the cutback pass but once again he elected to play an ordinary cross, to which  Irvine raises his hands in air in frustration having not received the ball in a good scoring position.

Thats why Behich is sitting on the bench in both PSV n his new club in Turkey. The coach gave him chances but after saw his passing n cut back which wasteful then realise he wasnt good enough. Gerbach wasnt playing atm but he did much better than Behich under Ange.
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Derider - 13 Oct 2019 3:33 AM
Footballking55 - 12 Oct 2019 10:56 PM

No he didn't. He was in for the Solomons games, which was the Oceania wc play off. We won 2-1 in Honiara and then thrashed them here. Then we played Uruguay to qualify. All under Gus.

Okay thanks
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I thought Maclaren scored three excellent goals.

I'm gobsmacked to read so much criticism of him.
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Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 9:47 AM
I thought Maclaren scored three excellent goals.

I'm gobsmacked to read so much criticism of him.

Besides the moronic criticism of him the article on this very website " No Promises to Maclaren " etc after the game was even worse. 

If a striker who has scored of hat trick isn't picked against Taiwan then he should tell Arnie to fuck off & never make himself available for Socceroos selection ever again.   
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Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 9:47 AM
I thought Maclaren scored three excellent goals.

I'm gobsmacked to read so much criticism of him.

His last goal was his best goal, good run, good touch and good finish.

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Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 9:47 AM
I thought Maclaren scored three excellent goals.

I'm gobsmacked to read so much criticism of him.

He had a good game, the best of our forwards. But to call all three goals excellent is a bit ridiculous.
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He had a good game, the best of our forwards. But to call all three goals excellent is a bit ridiculous.

Is it?

The first goal featured excellent anticipation and reflexes, scoring from a rebounded save.

The second featured terrific offensive positioning and reading of play, finding space by shaking his  marker  and culminated  with a clinical headed finish.

The third was a fantastic first touch under pressure with a difficult body position to receive, with quality shielding of the ball and a superb finish under pressure.



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Also, Maclaren made a lot of effective dummy running and created space off the ball.

It pulled the Nepal defence out of shape.

His own forward runs created a mobile target too. 
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Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 12:20 PM
Also, Maclaren made a lot of effective dummy running and created space off the ball.

It pulled the Nepal defence out of shape.

His own forward runs created a mobile target too. 

He just needs to do it against better opposition. Our goal is to get out of the group stage at a WC and beyond. He will have chances to prove he can in the next phase of qualification and at the Copa.
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Taiwan at home is going to be difficult, there could be a major upset coming.

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It was a bit of a shame that Souttar wasn't tested defensively. He had little  defending to do. In time and space he looked comfortable on the ball for such a tall player.

Goodwin and Irvine got into good positions to score, but struggled to work the Nepalese keeper from profligate shots.

I also think Mooy's best work comes from being a deeper lying playmaker  as a twin defensive midfielder, rather than as a  twin attacking midfielder.

Mooy doesn't have the acceleration, and speed as a ball runner to make the  runs players like Ikon does. The Glory star runs into the box by ball carrying and breaking defensive lines as he receives the ball, and, by running at defenders with the ball at his feet.
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nomates - 14 Oct 2019 2:02 PM
Taiwan at home is going to be difficult, there could be a major upset coming.

Sure.
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I've seen comments that Milligan shouldn't be selected, because he won't be available for the next World Cup at 37 years of age.

I have not seen his League One team play, but in recent times  tactically and technically, League One teams are usually utter rubbish. His Scottish team last year were not bad.

However, Milligan is one of those players who at national team level, has been very consistent for close to a decade. Milligan did little wrong against Nepal, albeit under limited pressure.

Others like Sainsbury, James Holland, Karem Bulut, Tom Juric and Tommy Oar, who are far younger, may already be on the downward slide, never to reach the standard again they did as quite young players. All showed great promise.

Whilst Milligan is still good enough, with visits to four World Cups, he has immense experience that is hard to replace. One needs to know one's own game very well to be ably to lead others.

Even if he only plays for another six months, as others gain international  experience, it could be quite handy having a player with his international experience. He has played on the pitch  at two World Cups.

The two most other experienced players are probably Matt Ryan, the best  option for captain, or Matt Leckie.

Leckie has had a very poor output as a goalscorer as a winger and central striker. At some stage he is likely to be pushed out by players like Ikon, Mabil, Arzani and Boyle, who have demonstrated far more penalty box goalcraft than him. ATM Leckie has better defensive qualities, but all four have more attacking impetus than Leckie already and they are younger.   

Who besides Ryan is an experienced player who can hold their place and be captain ?

Mooy is currently struggling for game time in his club. He is also very quiet.
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Burztur - 14 Oct 2019 2:21 PM
nomates - 14 Oct 2019 2:02 PM

Sure.

It's neck & neck between him & Libel.  :laugh::hehe:
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I hope that Daniel Da Silva can have another good season at CCM like he did  two season ago.

I'd like him in the national team set up. He has a different array of skills than anybody else as a number ten, or attacking mid.
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Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 2:34 PM

Mooy is currently struggling for game time in his club. He is also very quiet.

I think you need to do some fact checking Decentric. After only moving to BHA the day before the first league match of the season, so perhaps understandably not being a first choice to start with, Mooy has worked his way into the side, starting the last 3 league matches (and arguably being man of the match in the last one), coming on as a sub in two others (the league is 8 matches old). He also started BHA's first League Cup match. He isn't struggling for game time.
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Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 2:34 PM

I think you need to do some fact checking Decentric. After only moving to BHA the day before the first league match of the season, so perhaps understandably not being a first choice to start with, Mooy has worked his way into the side, starting the last 3 league matches (and arguably being man of the match in the last one), coming on as a sub in two others (the league is 8 matches old). He also started BHA's first League Cup match. He isn't struggling for game time.

Compared to last season he is, as he was a key player.

Thanks for the update though. I read a few weeks back he was struggling.

As a captain, he is probably too quiet, like Bresc.
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Davide82 - 11 Oct 2019 9:49 AM
Only saw the 2nd half and haven't read through comments so I assume I'm not the first to say this but geez Hrustic looked good when he came on.

I know it's only Nepal but you can see when a player is comfortable with that ball or not regardless of who they are playing against.

I think other players are even more comfortable on the  ball than Hrustic - Ikon, Mabil, Boyle and Arzani.
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kaufusi - 11 Oct 2019 11:05 AM
We were our usual slow and sloppy selves in attack. We simply don't know how to break down a team that defends deep with a packed defence. An own goal, a goal or two from keeper fumbles. A good goal to Maclaren from Grants header and Souttar smashing home a goal were the only promising attacking moments. 
If we can't get our attack going against minnows, how do we plan to break down much tougher opponents? Very little creativity. Even having a 2m tall player with a half metre advantage on his opponents and we couldn't isolate him more than once in the game. 

It brings Irvine into focus as an attacking mid. He had scoring opportunities   over the last two games, but struggled to work the keeper and execute defence splitting and killer passes.

Also, he isn't a good 1v1 and  ball carrying exponent like Ikon and Rogic, and Da Silva, as attacking mids. These guys break lines and beat players.

Irvine's strength is aerial ability and late runs into the box, like Cahill, but he failed to score in the last two games from good positions.
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Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 4:47 PM
Davide82 - 11 Oct 2019 9:49 AM

I think other players are even more comfortable on the  ball than Hrustic - Ikon, Mabil, Boyle and Arzani.

Maybe yes, though Mabil still doesn't have an amazing 1st touch at times.  Makes up for it with unpredictability (often resulting from that poor first touch) and quickness.
None of those played in this game, however, which is why they weren't mentioned and Hrustic was.
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Davide82 - 11 Oct 2019 9:49 AM
Only saw the 2nd half and haven't read through comments so I assume I'm not the first to say this but geez Hrustic looked good when he came on.

I know it's only Nepal but you can see when a player is comfortable with that ball or not regardless of who they are playing against.

of all the guys on the fringes... Hrustic is the one I think should be thrown in the deep, play him as a 10... he is at least going to take some shots from distance.

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Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 2:34 PM
I've seen comments that Milligan shouldn't be selected, because he won't be available for the next World Cup at 37 years of age.

I have not seen his League One team play, but in recent times  tactically and technically, League One teams are usually utter rubbish. His Scottish team last year were not bad.

However, Milligan is one of those players who at national team level, has been very consistent for close to a decade. Milligan did little wrong against Nepal, albeit under limited pressure.

Others like Sainsbury, James Holland, Karem Bulut, Tom Juric and Tommy Oar, who are far younger, may already be on the downward slide, never to reach the standard again they did as quite young players. All showed great promise.

Whilst Milligan is still good enough, with visits to four World Cups, he has immense experience that is hard to replace. One needs to know one's own game very well to be ably to lead others.

Even if he only plays for another six months, as others gain international  experience, it could be quite handy having a player with his international experience. He has played on the pitch  at two World Cups.

The two most other experienced players are probably Matt Ryan, the best  option for captain, or Matt Leckie.

Leckie has had a very poor output as a goalscorer as a winger and central striker. At some stage he is likely to be pushed out by players like Ikon, Mabil, Arzani and Boyle, who have demonstrated far more penalty box goalcraft than him. ATM Leckie has better defensive qualities, but all four have more attacking impetus than Leckie already and they are younger.   

Who besides Ryan is an experienced player who can hold their place and be captain ?

Mooy is currently struggling for game time in his club. He is also very quiet.

Yes Milligan is still a good player and plays a key role for us... but do you remember the days of Holger and Pim? Do we really want a team of 32-35 year olds? At some point you have to look to the future.

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Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 2:13 PM
It was a bit of a shame that Souttar wasn't tested defensively. He had little  defending to do. In time and space he looked comfortable on the ball for such a tall player.

Goodwin and Irvine got into good positions to score, but struggled to work the Nepalese keeper from profligate shots.

I also think Mooy's best work comes from being a deeper lying playmaker  as a twin defensive midfielder, rather than as a  twin attacking midfielder.

Mooy doesn't have the acceleration, and speed as a ball runner to make the  runs players like Ikon does. The Glory star runs into the box by ball carrying and breaking defensive lines as he receives the ball, and, by running at defenders with the ball at his feet.

Disagree i think mooy is better as a dual 8 rather than a dual 6. Brings his creativity more into play as we are seeing at brighton 
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Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 2:34 PM
I've seen comments that Milligan shouldn't be selected, because he won't be available for the next World Cup at 37 years of age.

I have not seen his League One team play, but in recent times  tactically and technically, League One teams are usually utter rubbish. His Scottish team last year were not bad.

However, Milligan is one of those players who at national team level, has been very consistent for close to a decade. Milligan did little wrong against Nepal, albeit under limited pressure.

Others like Sainsbury, James Holland, Karem Bulut, Tom Juric and Tommy Oar, who are far younger, may already be on the downward slide, never to reach the standard again they did as quite young players. All showed great promise.

Whilst Milligan is still good enough, with visits to four World Cups, he has immense experience that is hard to replace. One needs to know one's own game very well to be ably to lead others.

Even if he only plays for another six months, as others gain international  experience, it could be quite handy having a player with his international experience. He has played on the pitch  at two World Cups.

The two most other experienced players are probably Matt Ryan, the best  option for captain, or Matt Leckie.

Leckie has had a very poor output as a goalscorer as a winger and central striker. At some stage he is likely to be pushed out by players like Ikon, Mabil, Arzani and Boyle, who have demonstrated far more penalty box goalcraft than him. ATM Leckie has better defensive qualities, but all four have more attacking impetus than Leckie already and they are younger.   

Who besides Ryan is an experienced player who can hold their place and be captain ?

Mooy is currently struggling for game time in his club. He is also very quiet.

Holland on downhill slide? He is in career best form.
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Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 2:34 PM
I've seen comments that Milligan shouldn't be selected, because he won't be available for the next World Cup at 37 years of age.

I have not seen his League One team play, but in recent times  tactically and technically, League One teams are usually utter rubbish. His Scottish team last year were not bad.

However, Milligan is one of those players who at national team level, has been very consistent for close to a decade. Milligan did little wrong against Nepal, albeit under limited pressure.

Others like Sainsbury, James Holland, Karem Bulut, Tom Juric and Tommy Oar, who are far younger, may already be on the downward slide, never to reach the standard again they did as quite young players. All showed great promise.

Whilst Milligan is still good enough, with visits to four World Cups, he has immense experience that is hard to replace. One needs to know one's own game very well to be ably to lead others.

Even if he only plays for another six months, as others gain international  experience, it could be quite handy having a player with his international experience. He has played on the pitch  at two World Cups.

The two most other experienced players are probably Matt Ryan, the best  option for captain, or Matt Leckie.

Leckie has had a very poor output as a goalscorer as a winger and central striker. At some stage he is likely to be pushed out by players like Ikon, Mabil, Arzani and Boyle, who have demonstrated far more penalty box goalcraft than him. ATM Leckie has better defensive qualities, but all four have more attacking impetus than Leckie already and they are younger.   

Who besides Ryan is an experienced player who can hold their place and be captain ?

Mooy is currently struggling for game time in his club. He is also very quiet.

Mooys started last 3 games for brighton
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jas88 - 14 Oct 2019 5:13 PM
Decentric - 14 Oct 2019 2:34 PM

Yes Milligan is still a good player and plays a key role for us... but do you remember the days of Holger and Pim? Do we really want a team of 32-35 year olds? At some point you have to look to the future.

No.

But Milligan is the only player in his mid thirties who is a national team regular.
 
Nobody has his experience to lead for  the next year or so, until he is past it.

Sains can't lead, as he hasn't had secure football since the second last  Asian Cup in 2015.
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