Fold the NBL

how about twitch? 

I dont track twitch or youtube.

Wookie

What's your gut tell you about streaming across new platforms... I can't see Fox or Fox cable for sport being around in 5 years....  it also seems to me anyway that because there is so much sport, including E-sport that being on FTA is becoming less important in terms of growing a market ... love you'er thoughts... 

I think there was about 2.2k watching the Wildcats on Friday on Twitch

there are some benefits to doing your own production (if you can afford it). You can broaden your reach by broacasting on multiple platforms or open yourself up to platforms that wouldn't realistically have bidded for games in the past. eg. If we did our own production from 2022 onwards, that might temp Optus into buying the rights. or someone like youtube. or even a FTA network. 

Good points, but I do wonder what these sorts of social media providers will pay for it (if they will want to pay anything at all)

I know they are getting into this space, but I'm yet to hear of any face-melting media deals

Fox needs to take a good hard look at its modelling if its still taking losses after all this time. Streaming figures arent currently making up for lost viewers - although its worth noting that the AFLs FTA figures are well up this year, I think Netballs were as well. BBL ratings down due mostly to less visibility after being partially siphoned off to Fox.

Streaming might be the future, but its a long way from overshadowing FTA in terms of live sport, and even Foxtels terriestrial/Go! numbers hold up over streaming (Now/Kayo etc) at the moment based on the figures we know at this point.

Fox ratings for last night:  36k

is that good? i streamed it on my tv with chromecast from foxtel go does that count me in the ratings? 

Probably around expectation, realistically, only die hard socceroo fans are interested in these sorts of fixtures.

Foxtel go is counted I believe.

I don’t believe it is. OzTAM don’t calculate that unless you can point out where they say they do? 

I got got to meet with FFA Marketing last year along with BRFC staff - in their presentation on match rating (for Roar) they had the OzTAM figure plus the reported GO figure separately. 

(GO was typically 1-5k only) 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sports-rights-now-make-up-26-percent-global-content-spend-1247865

Sports Rights Now Make Up 26 Percent of Global Content Spend

Online platforms have begun to enter the market but are still very minor players.

But Alexios Dimitropoulos, a senior analyst at Ampere, believes the new SVOD wave will not drive down sports rights. 

"Although there are significant competitive pressures on TV revenues due to the rise of new online competitors, the impending direct-to-consumer fragmentation of the market may also open up opportunities for sports rights bodies — who will increasingly hold some of the few premium rights that money can still buy."

This is worth a read. NINE trying to “level the playing field” which has big implications (if they’re successful) on future content valuation:

https://which-50.com/nine-to-launch-virtualoz-in-february-2020/

https://tvblackbox.com.au/page/2019/10/17/sports-ratings-wrap-a-league-struggles-to-find-an-audience-on-abc-as-bathurst-dominates?format=non-amp

SPORT RATINGS WRAP | A-League struggles to find an audience on ABC as Bathurst Dominates

Football

The A-league had a lacklustre launch in its first week, with its new ABC partner rating 47,000 in the five cities for Saturday evenings Wanderers v Mariners clash at Bankwest.

On Foxtel, Saturday nights Melbourne derby was the highest rating match of the round with 60,000 tuning in, while the opening game between Adelaide and Sydney FC rated 52,000. 

On Tuesday night the Socceroos v Chinese Taipei was watched by 36,000 on Foxtel.

The real story is why are the Roos only rating 36k?

10:40pm kickoff on a weeknight against a nobody team we were expecting to destroy. i only watched about 20 minutes of it myself tbh. 

this

yeah sorry. I meant that Foxtel Go/Now is counted, but not as part of the broadcast ratings. Oztam does say that the two can be combined to form one national figure.

Mean while the Rugby World Cup is rating every game above 100k! That's why they will get there $80-100m a year TV deal next.

Last nights game got 46k

Any non derby over 40k has to be considered half decent these days doesn’t it?

heading to the pub later reacon they will laugh at me when I tell em to put WU v Glory on.

Ratings have halved from their highs.
Foxtel subscriptions have no doubt reduced,but i doubt they have halved.
All those EPL Optus subscibers and HAL streamers presumably make up the missing 50%.

Harden the fuck up princess. If you want to watch some football grow a spine and some balls and just ask 😉

I know your lights aren’t exactly on most of the time but you do realise that the RWC (which I’m watching avidly) is not out-rating the soccer World Cup and even the Matilda’s ratings at 5AM out-rate all but the Wallabies? 

This 100%

Fuck the death riders. 

Actually I don't think the electricity is even connected 

Ratings last night....

F3 derby 33k on fox
western united home debut.. 20k on fox...... 46k metro abc

#TVratings Saturday #ALeague
#F3Derby
FoxSports 33k
#WUNvPER
FoxSports 20k
ABC 46k (Metro)


#TVratings Saturday #WBBL05
Sydney Sixers v Brisbane Heat
#7cricket
Session 1: 163k (89/74k)
Session 2: 178k (105/73k)
#FoxCricket
28k (both sessions)