What has Melbourne Victory done right off the field?


What has Melbourne Victory done right off the field?

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CS - 15 Oct 2019 5:17 PM
Re Marvel I think you will find that Victory very unwisely locked themselves into a long term contract way back in the days when they were pulling much bigger crowds.  No room to move there.

I think the opposite. If the club wanted to leave Marvel, or reduce the amount games at Marvel (5 home games is fucking ridiculous) I can't imagine the AFL would stand in their way. They would be happy to see us leave. 

paladisious - 15 Oct 2019 8:25 PM

Yeah and at the last member's forum ADP was saying we lose money most times playing at AAMI. If we can't afford to have all our games there, then that's just reality.

What we need, of course, is our own stadium at the E-Gate site, before the last suitable land for a stadium in the city centre is gone.

while we still have 5 years left on our Marvel deal, perhaps now is the time to renegotiate with AAMI Park Stadium Management. There is nothing stopping us from going to them and saying... If you can get us a better return on home games, we'll sign a longer term deal to play there and we'll negotiate with the AFL to reduce our games at Marvel. 

as for future stadium sites, E-Gate is the obvious area, but I think another potential site is Arden St (the North Melbourne AFL team's training facility).

melbourne_terrace - 16 Oct 2019 10:09 AM

And surrender Swan St to City? HERESY. 

If the CFG are still owners of MCFC in 10 years time, I reckon they would have built their own stadium by then. 

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paladisious - 16 Oct 2019 1:23 AM
josh sydneyfc - 15 Oct 2019 10:22 PM


So Josh is a bikini playing volleyball player?  OK.  
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paladisious - 15 Oct 2019 8:25 PM
433 - 15 Oct 2019 8:13 PM

Yeah and at the last member's forum ADP was saying we lose money most times playing at AAMI. If we can't afford to have all our games there, then that's just reality.

What we need, of course, is our own stadium at the E-Gate site, before the last suitable land for a stadium in the city centre is gone.

And surrender Swan St to City? HERESY. 

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paladisious - 16 Oct 2019 1:23 AM
josh sydneyfc - 15 Oct 2019 10:22 PM


😂 
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aussie pride - 15 Oct 2019 1:54 PM
Victory was considered a one stop shop for all Victorian fans at the leagues inception.
Basically by season 3 the club had hooked in a majority of the football market in the state and had a huge market share.

Massive shift when they moved from olympic park to marvel..a sign of the times but it took a move to an aussie rules venue to make the club genuinely look mainstream...heaps jumped on seaaon 2 and 3. 
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josh sydneyfc - 15 Oct 2019 10:22 PM
Burztur - 15 Oct 2019 10:12 PM

Haha so true. I just want to see what type of human he/she is. I’m intrigued by libel


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Burztur - 15 Oct 2019 10:12 PM
josh sydneyfc - 15 Oct 2019 9:53 PM

A slap in the face for josh.

Haha so true. I just want to see what type of human he/she is. I’m intrigued by libel
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josh sydneyfc - 15 Oct 2019 9:53 PM
libel - 15 Oct 2019 9:25 PM

Why don’t you reply to my posts? I feel like we could form such a great bond

A slap in the face for josh.
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libel - 15 Oct 2019 9:25 PM
C'mon, don't be like that. I didn't say that preposterous thing.

Why don’t you reply to my posts? I feel like we could form such a great bond
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C'mon, don't be like that. I didn't say that preposterous thing.
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libel - 15 Oct 2019 9:13 PM
433 - 15 Oct 2019 9:08 PM

The guy must be absolutely delusional. Will never happen.

Get a fucking life you sad cvnt
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433 - 15 Oct 2019 9:08 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 15 Oct 2019 3:18 PM

Every year ADP makes a big speech about...being the biggest club in Asia

The guy must be absolutely delusional. Will never happen.
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Feed_The_Brox - 15 Oct 2019 3:18 PM
 

But I have to say, the club has dropped the ball over the last few years. lack of active support. GA ticket prices. re-classifying reserved seats. Refusing to reduce the amount of games at Marvel is really hurting the club I reckon. membership numbers and average crowd numbers are stagnant. some of this can be contributed to the downfall of the league as a whole,no doubt, but the club isn't really doing a lot to grow right now. its more about maintaining the status quo.  



Have to agree with this. Every year ADP makes a big speech about targeting 30k members, being the biggest club in Asia, developing an academy etc. but nothing much gets done. I would like to see some concrete steps taken and more engagement from the higher ups. Danny Townsend is on Twitter and constantly engages with their fans, while there's virtually no correspondence from our board as to how the club is growing. 
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Fighting with a bunch of hippies over a rubbish tip?
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paladisious - 15 Oct 2019 8:25 PM
433 - 15 Oct 2019 8:13 PM

Yeah and at the last member's forum ADP was saying we lose money most times playing at AAMI. If we can't afford to have all our games there, then that's just reality.

What we need, of course, is our own stadium at the E-Gate site, before the last suitable land for a stadium in the city centre is gone.

You and I both know  that egate  will  end up with the afl 
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433 - 15 Oct 2019 8:13 PM
I thought the only reason we keep persisting with that soulless husk of a stadium is because the deal is so good that it's the only thing keeping us in the black. I recall reading that we only need about 2k people to rock up and we make a match-day profit. 

Yeah and at the last member's forum ADP was saying we lose money most times playing at AAMI. If we can't afford to have all our games there, then that's just reality.

What we need, of course, is our own stadium at the E-Gate site, before the last suitable land for a stadium in the city centre is gone.
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I thought the only reason we keep persisting with that soulless husk of a stadium is because the deal is so good that it's the only thing keeping us in the black. I recall reading that we only need about 2k people to rock up and we make a match-day profit. 
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Off field they’ve engaged with local community clubs.
Every season senior players regularly go out and attend training sessions for junior teams at local clubs.

Every home match has miniroo teams from local clubs. Free entry and little gifts. My kid has played on AAMI twice and delivered the match ball to the ref once.

Host citizenship ceremonies every year.

Partnered with SEDA to deliver educational courses in sports management/performance.

They are trying to start a community football facility, but struggling with planning.




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paladisious - 15 Oct 2019 7:45 PM
melbourne_terrace - 15 Oct 2019 5:43 PM

They locked in a long term deal just before it got handed over to the AFL. Smart, if you ask me. Leaves options open for the club when otherwise they'd be negotiating with the AFL who aren't exactly our friends.

I'd have preferred that we just tell them to fuck off permanently and not care about options.

We can't just keep putting off a full move to AAMI Park just to indefinitely keep foot in the door of a shit stadium.






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melbourne_terrace - 15 Oct 2019 5:43 PM
CS - 15 Oct 2019 5:17 PM

They chose to extend that deal years later, despite it being half empty by then.

They locked in a long term deal just before it got handed over to the AFL. Smart, if you ask me. Leaves options open for the club when otherwise they'd be negotiating with the AFL who aren't exactly our friends.
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CS - 15 Oct 2019 5:17 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 15 Oct 2019 3:18 PM

Re Marvel I think you will find that Victory very unwisely locked themselves into a long term contract way back in the days when they were pulling much bigger crowds.  No room to move there.

They chose to extend that deal years later, despite it being half empty by then.

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CS - 15 Oct 2019 5:17 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 15 Oct 2019 3:18 PM

Re Marvel I think you will find that Victory very unwisely locked themselves into a long term contract way back in the days when they were pulling much bigger crowds.  No room to move there.

They also make more money due to lower fees and higher attendances. As much as AAMI is better for football, money making opportunities should always be explored.
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Feed_The_Brox - 15 Oct 2019 3:18 PM
Victory in business has been a huge success. having a massive influence on getting AAMI park built has also been huge. but overall, the events on the pitch in season 2 has probably made the club what it is today. we were the talk of the town in those days. 

But I have to say, the club has dropped the ball over the last few years. lack of active support. GA ticket prices. re-classifying reserved seats. Refusing to reduce the amount of games at Marvel is really hurting the club I reckon. membership numbers and average crowd numbers are stagnant. some of this can be contributed to the downfall of the league as a whole,no doubt, but the club isn't really doing a lot to grow right now. its more about maintaining the status quo.  

I will add that there were a couple of good initiatives last week. The player figurines (which sold out) and home game posters are both new ideas.

Melbcityguy - 15 Oct 2019 2:54 PM

Anthony Di Pietro.

Re Marvel I think you will find that Victory very unwisely locked themselves into a long term contract way back in the days when they were pulling much bigger crowds.  No room to move there.
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jeggohouse - 15 Oct 2019 1:56 PM
They signed the better ADP

His first season  in charge, he literally nearly destroyed the club.  Sacked merrick, hired mehms, got  Harry but had a novice and  over his head coach.  Hired magilton.  Signed up enegery watch as a sponsor and had that god ugly hi vis  kit
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someguyjc - 15 Oct 2019 3:13 PM
Melbcityguy - 15 Oct 2019 2:54 PM

He's referring to Anthony Di Pietro.

touche 
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Victory in business has been a huge success. having a massive influence on getting AAMI park built has also been huge. but overall, the events on the pitch in season 2 has probably made the club what it is today. we were the talk of the town in those days. 

But I have to say, the club has dropped the ball over the last few years. lack of active support. GA ticket prices. re-classifying reserved seats. Refusing to reduce the amount of games at Marvel is really hurting the club I reckon. membership numbers and average crowd numbers are stagnant. some of this can be contributed to the downfall of the league as a whole,no doubt, but the club isn't really doing a lot to grow right now. its more about maintaining the status quo.  

I will add that there were a couple of good initiatives last week. The player figurines (which sold out) and home game posters are both new ideas.

Melbcityguy - 15 Oct 2019 2:54 PM

Who was that? danny allsopp 

Anthony Di Pietro.

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Melbcityguy - 15 Oct 2019 2:54 PM
jeggohouse - 15 Oct 2019 1:56 PM

Who was that? danny allsopp 

He's referring to Anthony Di Pietro.
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jeggohouse - 15 Oct 2019 1:56 PM
They signed the better ADP

Who was that? danny allsopp 
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Melbcityguy - 15 Oct 2019 11:54 AM
griff1 - 15 Oct 2019 11:52 AM

But sydney has been as successful even adelaide has and even WSW won the acl but victory has really not lost many fans over the years 

Victory has always operated as a big club and have continuously confirmed that status through membership, commercial and operational success which has meant the on-field performance has been a bonus to their overall brand. They just know what to do and have perfected it.

Compare that to Sydney who for as long as I can remember have been trying to convince themselves and other people how much of a big club (they think) they are... I remember when the A-League started and the whole Bling FC tag was their claim to fame which basically turned off many people, myself included, in Western Sydney - which they made minimal effort to engage with I might add. Along with the fact that I knew people involved at the Mariners, that was probably the biggest reason I never followed them but instead took up regular free tickets to attend Mariners games until WSW were founded. I think Arnie went a long way towards scrapping that mentality when he took over at Sydney by making them winners rather than posers, though I can't help but feel that mentality still creeps back from time to time since he left. 

I've always wondered how big WSW would be right now (in comparison to Victory) if they were the lone foundation Sydney team back in 2005. I may be biased but I think our potential for further growth is enormous and we have proved during our existence to date that we can reach that tier Victory are in, especially in terms of membership/following.
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