Well they shouldn't

Every Australian imo should be counted as a visa player in NZ or vice versa - WP should have all Australian players and 5 visa spots. They have had an advantage for many years which they haven’t be able to exploit

eg Why was Kosta a visa player for MV and Roar but not for WP

Because NZ doesn’t have many young talent doesn’t justify it for me 

Cry me a river you big sook, Nix don't get ACL so they can play whatever players they want. Until they get ACL then maybe u will have a point.

They can play in ACL when they relocate to Australia

We have graciously allowed a New Zealand in an Australian sporting competition again. So they should be grateful for any opportunity we provide them.

Just before Nomates spouts in with some bullshit about how we need the Nix, just remember - if top flight professional football in Australia dies, so does New Zealand's.

Kiwis, tread carefully.

Moron! Its people like you calling for more Western United's and then saying Nix don't belong, Well sorry but football doesn't belong in AFL ovals or cricket pitches but maybe that where your time period is set.

As if any comment on here has any consequence at all for any side of the argument. Tread carefully? Give me a break.

Which AL team will you WP fans adopt?

or will you just stop caring?
and disappear 

Or are you really interested in Aus football and it’s development?

Your team plays in a circular stadium that is also far too big for you.

Why are you Kiwis so ungrateful? You'd have no professional football team if it weren't for our gregarious nature.

Give it a rest, it's a pointless conversation and you know it.

I think if NZ was to become Australia’s seventh state I would be much more comfortable with Wellington fielding a side in an Aussie football comp. I’d say that whether they were first or last on the ladder.

Fantastic post and I couldn’t agree more.

Good on the Nix.

Fair play to them. 

The ill will  from some Aus fans towards Nix amazes me.

Anyone who supports WP in the league must support Singapore, Jakarta and KL joining also.

There is no difference

There's a few differences:
The first is that having an Oceania team was a per-requisite upon Australia leaving Oceania.
The second is that the league is officially "Australia and New Zealand's Hyundai A-League." Not Australia's A-League or the region A-League.
The third is that the countries are culturally very similar and have a lot of the same brands and businesses.

I think if NZ was to become Australia’s seventh state I would be much more comfortable with Wellington fielding a side in an Aussie football comp. I’d say that whether they were first or last on the ladder.         

Will never happen, there's officially still an open invitation for NZ to join but you guys are such a political and social mess I think we'd all like to avoid that.

Lol! And they must also support a little green men from Alpha Centuri team and a team of demons from the dungeon dimensions! There is no difference there either.

Perhaps The Wellington experience is a pointer for the ALeague as a whole. Lots of loud people write them off and after a couple of years everything comes good again.

It's very funny that one of the main reasons people have wanted us out over the years is because another Aussie team would be better for Australian football development - yet we have average foreign coaches at multiple Aussie A-League clubs and recycled, old journeymen players still running around.

In comparison, the Nix have given a 2nd chance to Ernie and a chance for Talay/Rudan. They've also, this year, got a team full of players who have never been seen in the A-League before. Out of the First XI, only DeVere and maybe Sotirio are players you can say were 'recycled' from other A-League clubs.

The continued commitment of a section of the Australian footballing fraternity to deflect from the A-League's actual problems to focus on the Nix - a well run, stable, financially independent club - will always be baffling to me.

It's quite simple, they are not Australian, they shouldn't be in the league. 

They're bad, but the NixOut brigade is worse.

It's not that simple when you're talking about a league which is starved for sustainable clubs and is currently hemorrhaging money. To throw away investment is idiotic.

i've got news for you, the IHAL can't officially happen for another 3 years. the Nix can be kicked out and they should be. being 4th on the ladder halfway through a season doesn't mean they deserve to be around for another 20-30 years. 

Kicking out a financially stable, well-run club when the league is on the brink would be a genius move.

And a club which is committed to the long term, people outside of Wellington just don't understand the investment that the Phoenix have put into player development. They're the only club that offers year round top tier club football and they have bespoke/purpose built facilities along side the first teams training facilities and are definitely one of the top if not the top academy in the A-League. They not only develop young NZ talent but also international talent, they've had a few Australian's in the academy in the past and even the current U17 captain for Mexico came through the Phoenix academy system.

A player like Singh, which the Phoenix have developed since he was barely a teenager, going to Beyern Munich is such a good news story for the league, he'll be followed by Cacace and probably players like Waine and Sutton, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. It's so successful that I wouldn't be surprised if more Australian's started making the trek over at a young age to join the Phoenix academy.

As was posted above, how many players in the Phoenix are recycled? A good chunk of the first team was developed by the Phoenix and quite a few players that are in other clubs also were given their professional debuts by the Nix.

I only really do it cause I know it annoys nix fans, couldn't care either way, the league is going down hill. 

It doesn't annoy Nix fans as any sensible nix fan ignores this forum, it just annoys everyone.

bring in Auckland. kiwi derby.

Sure it does, thats why any thread picking on wellington we see the same nix fans writing paragraphs defending their inclusion in the A-League, but hey you don't care though.

Regardless of the arguments for and against, I think it's more WP fans believing it is their god-given right to be in the HAL that irritates people. You are guests, be a bit more grateful.

It clearly does annoy Nix fans, as evidenced by this thread lol.