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southmelb
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17k for the big blue - yikes.
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bluebird
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+x17k for the big blue - yikes. Lol Thought for a minute you posted in the wrong thread Might be the first time in the history of professional sports where the attendance figure was larger than the estimated TV audience
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paladisious
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+x+x17k for the big blue - yikes. Lol Thought for a minute you posted in the wrong thread Might be the first time in the history of professional sports where the attendance figure was larger than the estimated TV audience Wait, really? I assumed he accidentally posted the attendance too, but couldn't find the ratings, other than seeing they were under 320k.
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bettega
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+x+x17k for the big blue - yikes. Lol Thought for a minute you posted in the wrong thread Might be the first time in the history of professional sports where the attendance figure was larger than the estimated TV audience All jokes aside, it is an extraordinary result for what is meant to be one of our marquee fixtures. We did beat the NBL, which got 13k. Incredibly, a T20 game between NZ and India got 20k.
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Gyfox
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+x+x+x17k for the big blue - yikes. Lol Thought for a minute you posted in the wrong thread Might be the first time in the history of professional sports where the attendance figure was larger than the estimated TV audience Wait, really? I assumed he accidentally posted the attendance too, but couldn't find the ratings, other than seeing they were under 320k.  A-League Fox Sports Melbourne Victory v Sydney 17,000 https://www.mediaweek.com.au/tv-ratings-friday-january-24/
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southmelb
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City v glory - 14k
Pretty shocking for 2nd v 3rd.
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Eldar
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..and 20k for CCM v BRI, these ratings make no sense. I call bullshit.
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southmelb
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+x..and 20k for CCM v BRI, these ratings make no sense. I call bullshit. Explain how they aren’t making sense?
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bluebird
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+x..and 20k for CCM v BRI, these ratings make no sense. I call bullshit. Ratings aren't literal If you survey 1000 people and ask them what they last drank, somebody might say cat piss. Is it then reasonable to assume 25,000 Australians last drank cat piss? Watching the A League is an outlier. Ratings that low do not make sense when projected to the full population. If 14 people watched one game and 20 people watched another that does make sense. But to then assume 14,000 watched one and 20,000 watched another doesn't make sense Ratings might give some indication of viewing habits for the top 10 or 20 shows but that's about it
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Waz
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+xCity v glory - 14k Pretty shocking for 2nd v 3rd. Yes, it’s almost like football fans have shifted to Kayo ...
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Melbcityguy
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+x+xCity v glory - 14k Pretty shocking for 2nd v 3rd. Yes, it’s almost like football fans have shifted to Kayo ... I watch on my football app and Foxtel go
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Eldar
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+x+x..and 20k for CCM v BRI, these ratings make no sense. I call bullshit. Explain how they aren’t making sense? There is 0 chance that more people watched CCM/BRI than SFC/MVFC. Which is what these ratings figures are suggesting to us.
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+x+x+x..and 20k for CCM v BRI, these ratings make no sense. I call bullshit. Explain how they aren’t making sense? There is 0 chance that more people watched CCM/BRI than SFC/MVFC. Which is what these ratings figures are suggesting to us. CCM/Roar/Melb City/Glory/Jets just don't rate period even on FTA.
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Waz
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+x+x+x+x..and 20k for CCM v BRI, these ratings make no sense. I call bullshit. Explain how they aren’t making sense? There is 0 chance that more people watched CCM/BRI than SFC/MVFC. Which is what these ratings figures are suggesting to us. CCM/Roar/Melb City/Glory/Jets just don't rate period even on FTA. And yet Roar are the third highest ratings team after MVFC, SFC
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+x+x+xCity v glory - 14k Pretty shocking for 2nd v 3rd. Yes, it’s almost like football fans have shifted to Kayo ... I watch on my football app and Foxtel go Mine hasn't been working as of late. Every time I go to watch it says "can't load video"
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+x17k for the big blue - yikes. Holy shit That is an atrocious number double yikes
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CS
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+x+x17k for the big blue - yikes. Holy shit That is an atrocious number double yikes That is a no new tv deal number. From anyone. Not Fox, not Optus. Certainly no FTA commercials. It is actually a no more A League number. The question for several seasons now is when will the metrics hit bottom. We must be getting very close. The problem is that the bottom is so low that a recovery to a commercially viable level looks to be impossible.
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CS
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+x+x+x+x+x..and 20k for CCM v BRI, these ratings make no sense. I call bullshit. Explain how they aren’t making sense? There is 0 chance that more people watched CCM/BRI than SFC/MVFC. Which is what these ratings figures are suggesting to us. CCM/Roar/Melb City/Glory/Jets just don't rate period even on FTA. And yet Roar are the third highest ratings team after MVFC, SFC Seriously, Waz, that is nothing to be happy about. It reflects the deep, deep chasm the A League is in right now.
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southmelb
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Western United v Adelaide - 19k
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Been away for 4 or so months. Ratings going down as I said they would. Like clockwork. There are some people, the same people, still clutching onto an outdated football model.
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southmelb
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Is this the first time an entire round has rated 20k and under?
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+x+x+x17k for the big blue - yikes. Holy shit That is an atrocious number double yikes That is a no new tv deal number.From anyone. Not Fox, not Optus. Certainly no FTA commercials. It is actually a no more A League number.The question for several seasons now is when will the metrics hit bottom. We must be getting very close. The problem is that the bottom is so low that a recovery to a commercially viable level looks to be impossible. Totally agree.
We have an entire round rating under 20k. That is a national audience figure. That is genuinely 2 blokes and a dog.
And for our marquee game, MVFC V SFC, the original big city rival clubs, to rate 17k really shows where we’re at.
It’s depressing. I don’t see a recovery from here.
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CS
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+x+x+x+x17k for the big blue - yikes. Holy shit That is an atrocious number double yikes That is a no new tv deal number.From anyone. Not Fox, not Optus. Certainly no FTA commercials. It is actually a no more A League number.The question for several seasons now is when will the metrics hit bottom. We must be getting very close. The problem is that the bottom is so low that a recovery to a commercially viable level looks to be impossible. Totally agree.
We have an entire round rating under 20k. That is a national audience figure. That is genuinely 2 blokes and a dog.
And for our marquee game, MVFC V SFC, the original big city rival clubs, to rate 17k really shows where we’re at.
It’s depressing. I don’t see a recovery from here. Any rational person with any experience in business would tell you that this is a failed business beyond recovery. From my pov, the only credible scenario now is a rebrand and relaunch of the competition, funded by the clubs. I suggest that this would need to include a move back to winter. Summer heat is killing the game. Do I think this is likely? No. I don't believe the club owners will have either the funds or the willingness to pay for it. We simply don't have the population to sustain a professional national competition in a 4th tier sport. The US does - they have 300 million plus people. Can't be done with 26 million. The A League was a bold venture to take a marginal (in terms of public profile and support) sport mainstream. It hasn't worked, and there is no way of gilding that lily. I was one of those confident it would happen. I am deeply downcast to have been proven so wrong.
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bluebird
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+x+x+x+x+x17k for the big blue - yikes. Holy shit That is an atrocious number double yikes That is a no new tv deal number.From anyone. Not Fox, not Optus. Certainly no FTA commercials. It is actually a no more A League number.The question for several seasons now is when will the metrics hit bottom. We must be getting very close. The problem is that the bottom is so low that a recovery to a commercially viable level looks to be impossible. Totally agree.
We have an entire round rating under 20k. That is a national audience figure. That is genuinely 2 blokes and a dog.
And for our marquee game, MVFC V SFC, the original big city rival clubs, to rate 17k really shows where we’re at.
It’s depressing. I don’t see a recovery from here. We simply don't have the population to sustain a professional national competition in a 4th tier sport. The US does - they have 300 million plus people. Can't be done with 26 million. Population doesn't pay for leagues. Money does The A League at one stage was offered a $60m a year TV deal and knocked it back for being too small. They also had 16 teams bid for a spot in the league with the highest offering $15m. Not to mention heavy international interest in club ownership Our game has opportunities. They just doesnt reflect the traditional investment the AFL / NRL gets which is everything paid for out of a central TV deal and sponsorship Citing the number of rival sports for the incompetence showed time and time again by the one trick pony Australian sports administrators is a cop out. The only thing we couldnt afford was the AFL / NRL model, particularly as both of these codes have already outgrown what little this model has to offer, and cricket is fast heading down the same pathway The FFA fucked up. Pure and simple. It has nothing to do with population or number of other sports
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bettega
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After the first four seasons, the league was flying. Let's not forget that two new clubs were introduced in season 5, and then a 2nd Melbourne club came in the following season. Maybe it was at this point that the league needed to get adventurous and progressively start putting a global structure in place, The opportunity has probably passed.
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Eldar
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Remember when Clive Palmer was saying he wanted to build a boutique stadium and play mostly kids? Doesn't sound so stupid now.
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charlied
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+x+x+x+x+x+x17k for the big blue - yikes. Holy shit That is an atrocious number double yikes That is a no new tv deal number.From anyone. Not Fox, not Optus. Certainly no FTA commercials. It is actually a no more A League number.The question for several seasons now is when will the metrics hit bottom. We must be getting very close. The problem is that the bottom is so low that a recovery to a commercially viable level looks to be impossible. Totally agree.
We have an entire round rating under 20k. That is a national audience figure. That is genuinely 2 blokes and a dog.
And for our marquee game, MVFC V SFC, the original big city rival clubs, to rate 17k really shows where we’re at.
It’s depressing. I don’t see a recovery from here. We simply don't have the population to sustain a professional national competition in a 4th tier sport. The US does - they have 300 million plus people. Can't be done with 26 million. Population doesn't pay for leagues. Money does The A League at one stage was offered a $60m a year TV deal and knocked it back for being too small. They also had 16 teams bid for a spot in the league with the highest offering $15m. Not to mention heavy international interest in club ownership Our game has opportunities. They just doesnt reflect the traditional investment the AFL / NRL gets which is everything paid for out of a central TV deal and sponsorship Citing the number of rival sports for the incompetence showed time and time again by the one trick pony Australian sports administrators is a cop out. The only thing we couldnt afford was the AFL / NRL model, particularly as both of these codes have already outgrown what little this model has to offer, and cricket is fast heading down the same pathway The FFA fucked up. Pure and simple. It has nothing to do with population or number of other sports Are you seriously suggesting there is no connection between population and money???
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MarkfromCroydon
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x17k for the big blue - yikes. Holy shit That is an atrocious number double yikes That is a no new tv deal number.From anyone. Not Fox, not Optus. Certainly no FTA commercials. It is actually a no more A League number.The question for several seasons now is when will the metrics hit bottom. We must be getting very close. The problem is that the bottom is so low that a recovery to a commercially viable level looks to be impossible. Totally agree.
We have an entire round rating under 20k. That is a national audience figure. That is genuinely 2 blokes and a dog.
And for our marquee game, MVFC V SFC, the original big city rival clubs, to rate 17k really shows where we’re at.
It’s depressing. I don’t see a recovery from here. We simply don't have the population to sustain a professional national competition in a 4th tier sport. The US does - they have 300 million plus people. Can't be done with 26 million. Population doesn't pay for leagues. Money does The A League at one stage was offered a $60m a year TV deal and knocked it back for being too small. They also had 16 teams bid for a spot in the league with the highest offering $15m. Not to mention heavy international interest in club ownership Our game has opportunities. They just doesnt reflect the traditional investment the AFL / NRL gets which is everything paid for out of a central TV deal and sponsorship Citing the number of rival sports for the incompetence showed time and time again by the one trick pony Australian sports administrators is a cop out. The only thing we couldnt afford was the AFL / NRL model, particularly as both of these codes have already outgrown what little this model has to offer, and cricket is fast heading down the same pathway The FFA fucked up. Pure and simple. It has nothing to do with population or number of other sports Are you seriously suggesting there is no connection between population and money??? Australia is a first world country with an economy measured in trillions. There are billions of dollars in and around the football economy in Australia. There have been, and continue to be, numerous opportunities missed to capture and grow further investment in the game and direct that investment into the top league(s). Of course we should be able to sustain a group of 20 or more fully professional football clubs. Poor planning, poor regulation, poor management of the code, and invidious self interest at the club level have been the hallmarks of the game here for decades. If the will is there, we can easily have a good quality league that is fully professional and producing players for the national team.
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Fundamentally HAL was always doomed as it was built around an entertainment model rather than being a traditional football league. The casual fans looking for a sugar hit are quick to drop the product and HAL is now in a death spiral. Owners are f’d as with so few eyeballs on the game all the sponsorship deals are about to crash in value as well and with no FFA to bail them out most may be going the way of GCU.
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Nooo can’t lose the a league I don’t know what else I would do
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