toffeeAU
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So what was the rationale behind FFA scheduling the March 4 game against Perth not only on the same day as the Clipsal 500, but also kickoff in the afternoon during the race?
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RedsUnited
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We don't have natural width with the players we have, hence the 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 systems have failed us. We lost Dodd, Leckie, Pantelis and Slory, the first two we've missed the most.
As for the Champions League, I am so sick of this ongoing shit with Persipura. I wouldn't have minded being drawn into a play off with them, if they had been drawn with the rest of the competition in December. The issue I have most is that it gives the players no definitive prep time at all. Sure, we should beat them comfortably, but it's the premise that pisses me off so much.
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redcup
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liverpoolfan2010 wrote:Chris_AUFC wrote:The 4-4-2 diamond worked alright for a bit but with a defence as leaky as ours we are struggling at the moment (would help if Ozzie did some more tracking back though as well as helping out up the pitch) How about partnering Uzi in the middle someone else who can distribute, possibly Caravella or Barbiero. Galekovic Malik-Boogaard-Levchenko-Cassio Usucar-Caravella Vidosic----Ramsay Djite-Van Dijk Cassio and Malik to offer width (I know what you're probably thinking, but what are our options?), allowing Uzi to drop back and form a 3 man defence when we push up. only 1 change needs to happen Djite-Van Dijk that partnership only djite or djke can play at one time the other needs to be a new striker one who will come down more to get the ball fast and can beat playersit has shown in recent weeks if we had a player like that we might of won with more creative options. Many AU posters have said this ALL season. It's as plain as the nose on your face that having SvD & Djite on together is about as useful as a dog with a spanner - but we're not the coach.
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liverpoolfan2010
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Chris_AUFC wrote:The 4-4-2 diamond worked alright for a bit but with a defence as leaky as ours we are struggling at the moment (would help if Ozzie did some more tracking back though as well as helping out up the pitch) How about partnering Uzi in the middle someone else who can distribute, possibly Caravella or Barbiero. Galekovic Malik-Boogaard-Levchenko-Cassio Usucar-Caravella Vidosic----Ramsay Djite-Van Dijk Cassio and Malik to offer width (I know what you're probably thinking, but what are our options?), allowing Uzi to drop back and form a 3 man defence when we push up. only 1 change needs to happen Djite-Van Dijk that partnership only djite or djke can play at one time the other needs to be a new striker one who will come down more to get the ball fast and can beat players it has shown in recent weeks if we had a player like that we might of won with more creative options.
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Chris_AUFC
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The 4-4-2 diamond worked alright for a bit but with a defence as leaky as ours we are struggling at the moment (would help if Ozzie did some more tracking back though as well as helping out up the pitch) How about partnering Uzi in the middle someone else who can distribute, possibly Caravella or Barbiero. Galekovic Malik-Boogaard-Levchenko-Cassio Usucar-Caravella Vidosic----Ramsay Djite-Van Dijk Cassio and Malik to offer width (I know what you're probably thinking, but what are our options?), allowing Uzi to drop back and form a 3 man defence when we push up.
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General Ashnak
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I will drink a glass for you Ed :D Can't wait to catch up Steve, haven't seen you for an age it feels - other than that quick helloe whislt you were crossing the road with your son :)
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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Couldn't make it. Enjoy, guys.
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I might be drinking a little free wine! See you there.
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General Ashnak
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All good sunshine, was a little tipsy when I wrote that post anyways! BTW who here is going to be at the Tapestry Wines function on Sunday? I am going to be there with bells on!
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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General Ashnak wrote:Re ARF positions being fixed, this is a load of bollocks nowadays, ARF has fully embraced the zonal defense and offense that was pioneered by basketball. Teams now run forward, mid and defensive zones utilising full, half and semi presses taken straight out of football. Not recognising how much the technical aspects of ARF have developed over the past 20 years is evidence of being blinded by FOster and the ejaculate he sprays across every medium he is able to. I may not be an ARF fan (at least not at AFL level) but his complete lack of respect for the development it has undergone at the top level (as opposed to basic skill) is completely laughable. He continues to think of modern ARF as the same as the ARF from 20 years ago, which was entirely comparable to in quality to the football that was being played in the 10-20 years prior to that. You're probably quite correct. My only experience is of playing the game at school, and that was many, many years ago. I NEVER watch the game as it bores the crap out of me and 1 minute of any commentary just makes me shout at the radio/TV and raise my blood pressure through hate of the commentary team. I just give it the same respect I and football got throughout my years at high-school and the respect shown to our game in the here & now by ARF spokesmen/celebrities like Barassi, McGuire, Quatermain, Sheedy, Demetrio etc... Edited by redcup: 1/2/2012 04:34:58 PM
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toffeeAU
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Harper's reaction after those snippets were aired on FoxFC was gold! :lol:
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Cheers man
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General Ashnak
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/Football/039that039s-a-schoolboy-error039/video-e6frf423-1226256832473?subcat=1111112039253&site=FoxSports
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General Ashnak
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Go to Fox website, you can watch the whole thing there, I will drag up the link from my browser history for you.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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ok found it! Kosman wrote: “It has told me a lot about what we’ve really got in terms of playing personnel but also what we’ve got in terms of character,” Kosmina said.
“(I learnt that) we struggle when it gets a bit tough. Things don’t go right for us and we drop our heads too easily, way too easily.
“In the first 15 minutes you won’t see better football than that anywhere in the league at the moment – it was unbelievable. We could have been three goals up after 15 minutes, but you don’t take your chances and look what happens.
“You go down the other end, you go to sleep, you make silly mistakes – school boy mistakes that shouldn’t happen at this level.”
The Reds coach also refuted any suggestions that a third game in eight days had caught up with his team after their midweek match in Bathurst.
“Look at the first 15 minutes – they didn’t look tired then. They didn’t look tired at the end of the game either, Perth looked more tired than us.”
Going into next Friday night’s home game against second placed Wellington Phoenix, Kosmina knows the only result that will be acceptable.
“We’ve got to win at home. You can write this one off, we got a bad one out of our system,” Kosmina said.
“It has been a hard week, we could have had nine points, we should have had nine points if you look at the way we played, and we got one, so we’ve got a bit of work to do and a bit of chasing to do and we’ve got to win next week.
“They (the players) are good enough to do it, they’ve just got to believe it. I certainly do but I don’t know if they do and that gets back to this new culture change that was generated 12 months ago when the whole team was shifted out for no apparent reason.”
But seriously, it was way better on camera.
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Davide82 wrote:RedEyeRob wrote:General Ashnak wrote:Got my first chance to watch Kossie's post game press conference just now. Really enjoyable, how anyone can swagger as much as Kossie whilst sitting down is amazing!
It did firm for me that Kossie is a perfect fit for the football director role more than first team coach though :lol: lol it was a cracking conference ey! Where might one be able to still watch this? I saw it on Fox. Unfortunately the match replays don't repeat the post game conferences (and from memory you dropped Foxtel anyway so no point). Sorry i can't find any video. There was a transcript of what he said in an article floating around here but i can't find that either!
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RedEyeRob wrote:General Ashnak wrote:Got my first chance to watch Kossie's post game press conference just now. Really enjoyable, how anyone can swagger as much as Kossie whilst sitting down is amazing!
It did firm for me that Kossie is a perfect fit for the football director role more than first team coach though :lol: lol it was a cracking conference ey! Where might one be able to still watch this?
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General Ashnak wrote:Got my first chance to watch Kossie's post game press conference just now. Really enjoyable, how anyone can swagger as much as Kossie whilst sitting down is amazing!
It did firm for me that Kossie is a perfect fit for the football director role more than first team coach though :lol: lol it was a cracking conference ey!
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A-LEAGUE ROUND 19
ADELAIDE UNITED 0 PERTH GLORY 3 (Shane Smeltz 15m, Steve McGarry 20m, Liam Miller 81m) at Hindmarsh Stadium - Referee: Jarred Gillett - Crowd: 9,063.
ADELAIDE UNITED: Coach: John Kosmina - Formation: 4-4-2: The XI: 1. Eugene Galekovic (c), 14. Cam Watson (21. Pancho Usucar 73m), 5. Daniel Mullen, 3. Nigel Boogaard, 17. Iain Ramsay, 2. Osama Malik, 18. Fabian Barbiero, 10. Dario Vidosic (13. Ricardo da Silva 81), 9. Serginho van Dijk, 11. Bruce Djite 7. Zenon Caravella (15. Jacob Melling 42m) - SUBSTITUTES NOT USED: 20. Mark Birighitti.
PERTH GLORY: Coach: Ian Ferguson - Formation: 4-4-2: The XI: 1. Danny Vukovic, 3. Bas van den Brink, 5. Steve Pantelidis, 7. Jacob Burns, 9. Shane Smeltz, 10. Liam Miller, 14. Steven McGarry (8. Adam Hughes 52m), 16. Evan Berger (27. Andrezinho 45m), 17. Todd Howarth, 19. Joshua Risdon, 21. Mile Sterjovski (4. Billy Mehmet 84m) - SUBSTITUTES NOT USED: 30. Lewis Italiano.
Yellow cards
Glory: Vukovic, Pantelidis, Burns, van den Brink, Hughes.
Ratings out of 10:
Coach - John Kosmina - 6 - The boss was at his wits end when watching Djite miss a hatful of chances and his defence commit elementary errors.
1. Eugene Galekovic - 5 - Tried to get his side motivated during the half-time break but it was all in vain.
14. Cam Watson - 4 - Went into his shell after his throw in across the penalty box caught Mullen in possession for the first goal.
2. Osama Malik - 5 - Sprayed some pretty passes and was sadly involved in Glory's second goal.
3. Nigel Boogaard - 4 - Also involved in Glory's second goal and was one of the four defenders surrounding Smeltz before he scored the opener.
5. Daniel Mullen - 4 - Was nervous with Smeltz hovering to allow the goal machine possession to score.
18. Fabian Barbiero - 5 - Was full of running and gave Glory hell in a spell which failed to produce goals for Adelaide.
9. Serginho van Dijk - 5 - Was unselfish and perhaps should have pulled the trigger rather than square the ball to Djite before he hit the post from point blank range.
10. Dario Vidosic - 5 - Was good from set pieces and was pivotal in the eight minute spell which failed to produce goals for Adelaide.
11. Bruce Djite - 4 - A night to forget.
17. Iain Ramsay - 6.5 - Offered hope with his mazy runs.
SUBSTITUTES:
20. Mark Birighitti - N/A
15. Jacob Melling - 5 - Was full of endeavour and not overawed.
21. Pancho Usucar - N/A
13. Ricardo da Silva - N/A.
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Lev and cassio to start this week should be good.
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General Ashnak
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Re ARF positions being fixed, this is a load of bollocks nowadays, ARF has fully embraced the zonal defense and offense that was pioneered by basketball. Teams now run forward, mid and defensive zones utilising full, half and semi presses taken straight out of football. Not recognising how much the technical aspects of ARF have developed over the past 20 years is evidence of being blinded by FOster and the ejaculate he sprays across every medium he is able to. I may not be an ARF fan (at least not at AFL level) but his complete lack of respect for the development it has undergone at the top level (as opposed to basic skill) is completely laughable. He continues to think of modern ARF as the same as the ARF from 20 years ago, which was entirely comparable to in quality to the football that was being played in the 10-20 years prior to that.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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General Ashnak
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Got my first chance to watch Kossie's post game press conference just now. Really enjoyable, how anyone can swagger as much as Kossie whilst sitting down is amazing! It did firm for me that Kossie is a perfect fit for the football director role more than first team coach though :lol:
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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liverpoolfan2010 wrote:Was listening to the boys mullen and djite on the radio today thought i would share a few things.
Djite and it seems most of Adelaide united officials were really annoyed that the bathurst game was classed as a home game for us. Alot of talking in the group was we have regional parts were we could play in SA it should be there and the bathurst game newcastles home game. cock up by the FFA ??
Djite also said Lev is back and traning full time and should be playing this week so should be interesting to see how he goes now.
mullen basically said yes we get tired towards end of games which got a bit of criticism people saying they should man up and push through it play with more guts you cant use tiredness as an excuse.
Mullen wont be playing this week he is off to the olyroos so i have no idea who will replace him with our injuries.
also thought it was funny graham cornes said i do not see how 442 is a diamond it is more like a triangle...
which djite then tried to explain it
to which graham cornes said i think we need a white bored
which made djite reply with no you don't....ahhh thick afl blokes lol which i thought was funny
Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 27/1/2012 09:27:46 PM
Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 27/1/2012 09:28:41 PM We can't make such a broad-brush statement as " thick AFL blokes " Sure some are thick, but so are many blokes that play Football. We have to remember that all 18 positions in AFL are fixed, cover the ENTIRE field and have been for ever. The concept of having two teams with their own half and each team having tactical positioning to outwit their opposition to attack the goal and field that they are defending, is foreign to a game where grovel/wrestle on the ground > 70% of the time kick in hope to a pack and trust a bloke wearing your uniform jumps higher > stop > kick the ball as high as you like between two big sticks ( if you miss you're still rewarded with a point ) Granted, for the life of me I can't understand how anyone with intelligence sees anything in it? But whatever floats your boat? :twisted:
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Was listening to the boys mullen and djite on the radio today thought i would share a few things.
Djite and it seems most of Adelaide united officials were really annoyed that the bathurst game was classed as a home game for us. Alot of talking in the group was we have regional parts were we could play in SA it should be there and the bathurst game newcastles home game. cock up by the FFA ??
Djite also said Lev is back and traning full time and should be playing this week so should be interesting to see how he goes now.
mullen basically said yes we get tired towards end of games which got a bit of criticism people saying they should man up and push through it play with more guts you cant use tiredness as an excuse.
Mullen wont be playing this week he is off to the olyroos so i have no idea who will replace him with our injuries.
also thought it was funny graham cornes said i do not see how 442 is a diamond it is more like a triangle...
which djite then tried to explain it
to which graham cornes said i think we need a white bored
which made djite reply with no you don't....ahhh thick afl blokes lol which i thought was funny
Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 27/1/2012 09:27:46 PM
Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 27/1/2012 09:28:41 PM
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Davide82 wrote:RedTillDead wrote:How far is Dilevski off. Can't believe I'm saying this but I'm actually looking forward to him coming back into contention And I hate to say it as he seems like such a nice kid, but Watson really offers us nothing as a RB. Too often he gets caught the wrong side of the man he should be marking and we all know his only pass is back to Boogard. Every. Single. Time. he is clearly not a right back especially in our formation because he is our width and its up to him to get to the line and put in to SVD and Bruce and his crosses are well shocking. Thought id scout on fm for a RB and found Marvell Wynne who is best known for being the fastest on fifa but hey its fm EDIT: couldnt find anything of foxsports but according to wikipedia he is signed for Incheon Edited by milan_7: 26/1/2012 09:22:42 AM
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General Ashnak
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Nathan Burns has signed with Ichion(sic) United in the K League according to twitter :cry:
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RedTillDead wrote:How far is Dilevski off. Can't believe I'm saying this but I'm actually looking forward to him coming back into contention Ditto That half he played before he was injured was brilliant I still find it hard to believe we wont give him a shot at RB over Watson though We have enough central players If we had Cassio AND Dilevski making wide runs from fullback it will only further compliment the narrow diamond we are playing now as we will be a threat on all fronts. The biggest worry vs CCM was the defence. Mullen had an absolute shocker. By that I mean he was completely MIA. Boogard had a fairly off game but was at least getting in the way. Where was Mullen? Worst game he has played since Kossie took over. And I hate to say it as he seems like such a nice kid, but Watson really offers us nothing as a RB. Too often he gets caught the wrong side of the man he should be marking and we all know his only pass is back to Boogard. Every. Single. Time. Very important two games now vs Newcastle and Perth. COYR
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I would not take Golec out of position as a RB. Pure left footer, not much of a right foot on him. He could do well on left side of central defence, and Mullen or Susak as RB options.
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trosa001 wrote:u can throw susak in the backine as well. forget about golec. i would take susak anyday over golec or watson.
any goss on burns coming back anyone? Wait till midnight mate, there might be a article on Adelaidenow.
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u can throw susak in the backine as well. forget about golec. i would take susak anyday over golec or watson.
any goss on burns coming back anyone?
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