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+xCan somebody explain to me why most people seem to believe the crowds we are currently getting are awful? Plenty of leagues around the world average below 5k. The fact we average close to 10k is a miracle given the standard of football/sporting landscape in this country. So you're saying our shit crowds are good because the standard is shit, and despite what we have gotten in the past they are OK because other leagues get lower Are you going for the CEO position?
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Can somebody explain to me why most people seem to believe the crowds we are currently getting are awful? Plenty of leagues around the world average below 5k. The fact we average close to 10k is a miracle given the standard of football/sporting landscape in this country.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAU v SFC - 8,000 WSW v CCM - 18,000 MV v City - 37,000 Nix v WU - 7,000 PG v BR - 10,000 WSW v CCM 17091 That's woeful. First competitive game at a gleaming new stadium, and the opening round of the season. Even a half-baked marketing campaign by the new mob should have seen this match sell out. What a bunch of no-hopers they are. It’s Wanderers highest ever non-Derby crowd. So yeah but nah, not woeful. Doesn't make the turnout any less woeful, in the circumstances. Alright mods. Decision time. It’s time to block the obvious trolls like this or the football posters are going elsewhere. Your call. I’ll report every troll post this fella makes - if he’s still here in a week I’m out. So is it Waz or Libel? I didn't see what happened, but I think we are big enough and ugly enough to accommodate both. Actually, we're not really all that big, not sure if banning someone like Libel is the right thing to do. He has been on this forum for a very long time, we know where he is coming from, it's not as if it's a great surprise, and for the most part, his posts are pretty harmless. 100%, also it not like Waz or many of the other posters are above trolling. If you don’t want to see someone’s posts just block them, Decentric can explain how if you pm him
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAU v SFC - 8,000 WSW v CCM - 18,000 MV v City - 37,000 Nix v WU - 7,000 PG v BR - 10,000 WSW v CCM 17091 That's woeful. First competitive game at a gleaming new stadium, and the opening round of the season. Even a half-baked marketing campaign by the new mob should have seen this match sell out. What a bunch of no-hopers they are. It’s Wanderers highest ever non-Derby crowd. So yeah but nah, not woeful. Doesn't make the turnout any less woeful, in the circumstances. Alright mods. Decision time. It’s time to block the obvious trolls like this or the football posters are going elsewhere. Your call. I’ll report every troll post this fella makes - if he’s still here in a week I’m out. So is it Waz or Libel? I didn't see what happened, but I think we are big enough and ugly enough to accommodate both. Actually, we're not really all that big, not sure if banning someone like Libel is the right thing to do. He has been on this forum for a very long time, we know where he is coming from, it's not as if it's a great surprise, and for the most part, his posts are pretty harmless.
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Au v SFC 9,903
WS v CC 17,091
MV v MC 33,523
WP v WU 8,254
PG v BR 9,829
2019-20 Total 78,600
2019-20 Ave 15,720
2018-19 Total 84,761
2018-19 Ave: 16,952
Difference: -6,691 (-7.27%)
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAU v SFC - 8,000 WSW v CCM - 18,000 MV v City - 37,000 Nix v WU - 7,000 PG v BR - 10,000 WSW v CCM 17091 That's woeful. First competitive game at a gleaming new stadium, and the opening round of the season. Even a half-baked marketing campaign by the new mob should have seen this match sell out. What a bunch of no-hopers they are. It’s Wanderers highest ever non-Derby crowd. So yeah but nah, not woeful. Doesn't make the turnout any less woeful, in the circumstances. Alright mods. Decision time. It’s time to block the obvious trolls like this or the football posters are going elsewhere. Your call. I’ll report every troll post this fella makes - if he’s still here in a week I’m out. So is it Waz or Libel?
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+xWSW v CCM 17091 - good call WSW fans are the most fair weathered in the comp. they are bloody pathetic. even the RBB was no more than half full, which is a disgrace when you factor in the excitement of the new stadium and the opening of the first safe standing section in HAL history. maybe they'll return if they win a few games, but I'm not expecting it (excluding the derby of course). they'll be back to drawing their regular shitty 10,000 crowds by Xmas. +xRd 2 Melb Vic v WSW (Friday) 20k Western Utd v Perth 2kCCM v Newcastle 7k Melbourne City v Adelaide 8k Smurfs v Nix (Leichhardt) 10k i know there is a lot of negativity around WU, but surely you're taking the piss? there will be a novelty factor about their first home game, plus $20 GA tix, plus a first up win, and I can see them coming close to matching City. I would have headed down myself to take a look if Victory were playing away this week. MV v WSW - 19k WU v PG - 7k CCM v Jets - 9k City v AU - 7.5 Smurfs v Nix - 11k
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x17k on a rainy day is woeful. I agree libel.
Blaming the weather now? This game should have been sold out weeks before the day, before anyone even knew about the weather. And to not even crack 20k, my gosh. Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums. You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts. But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances... I truly am because I'm a realist. With all the negativity of the past few years I'm very happy with all 3 crowds so far, because it's a solid base to build on without idiots like Gallop and co killing the game with one stupid decision after another. What, like the 40k the first melbourne derby got just last season, and the what, 33k it got this season under the new regime? Given the damage done to confidence over the past couple of years, it’s hardly surprising. There is going to be significant challenges this year which no one should be shocked by. It certainly won’t be easy. Not many people go to the game based on the board or ownership The model is up the shit and nothing has been done to change it. From a footballing point of view we have an unbalanced season flooded with big games, less overall games per team, a bye, still a top 6 for some reason, not to mention a salary cap designed to keep our biggest teams small I watched the second half of AU v SFC and the defending was appalling. And when the A League is good, it is ruined by VAR. It feels like referees arent even making calls anymore because they have the technology to fall back on The clearest message of "metrics first, football last" is delaying the season start for a weekend where AFL / NRL fans are available (if they want), but players are on international duty This isn't a confidence issue. Serve up shit, watch the hardened fans continue to turn their back until nobody is left Cant win, teams attack and the defending is poor, teams defend and the attacking is poor. Adelaide defence was breached so many times leaving a replica of the red card incident time and time again. There is a difference between good attack and poor defence that isnt as black and white as you are making it out to be That's right Mr bluebird, everything stinks..
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+x76K overall - a lot of rounds significantly less than that. Not round 1 and round 2 last year
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bluebird
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x17k on a rainy day is woeful. I agree libel.
Blaming the weather now? This game should have been sold out weeks before the day, before anyone even knew about the weather. And to not even crack 20k, my gosh. Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums. You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts. But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances... I truly am because I'm a realist. With all the negativity of the past few years I'm very happy with all 3 crowds so far, because it's a solid base to build on without idiots like Gallop and co killing the game with one stupid decision after another. What, like the 40k the first melbourne derby got just last season, and the what, 33k it got this season under the new regime? Given the damage done to confidence over the past couple of years, it’s hardly surprising. There is going to be significant challenges this year which no one should be shocked by. It certainly won’t be easy. Not many people go to the game based on the board or ownership The model is up the shit and nothing has been done to change it. From a footballing point of view we have an unbalanced season flooded with big games, less overall games per team, a bye, still a top 6 for some reason, not to mention a salary cap designed to keep our biggest teams small I watched the second half of AU v SFC and the defending was appalling. And when the A League is good, it is ruined by VAR. It feels like referees arent even making calls anymore because they have the technology to fall back on The clearest message of "metrics first, football last" is delaying the season start for a weekend where AFL / NRL fans are available (if they want), but players are on international duty This isn't a confidence issue. Serve up shit, watch the hardened fans continue to turn their back until nobody is left Cant win, teams attack and the defending is poor, teams defend and the attacking is poor. Adelaide defence was breached so many times leaving a replica of the red card incident time and time again. There is a difference between good attack and poor defence that isnt as black and white as you are making it out to be
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bluebird
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x17k on a rainy day is woeful. I agree libel.
Blaming the weather now? This game should have been sold out weeks before the day, before anyone even knew about the weather. And to not even crack 20k, my gosh. Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums. You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts. But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances... I truly am because I'm a realist. With all the negativity of the past few years I'm very happy with all 3 crowds so far, because it's a solid base to build on without idiots like Gallop and co killing the game with one stupid decision after another. What, like the 40k the first melbourne derby got just last season, and the what, 33k it got this season under the new regime? Given the damage done to confidence over the past couple of years, it’s hardly surprising. There is going to be significant challenges this year which no one should be shocked by. It certainly won’t be easy. Not many people go to the game based on the board or ownership The model is up the shit and nothing has been done to change it. From a footballing point of view we have an unbalanced season flooded with big games, less overall games per team, a bye, still a top 6 for some reason, not to mention a salary cap designed to keep our biggest teams small I watched the second half of AU v SFC and the defending was appalling. And when the A League is good, it is ruined by VAR. It feels like referees arent even making calls anymore because they have the technology to fall back on The clearest message of "metrics first, football last" is delaying the season start for a weekend where AFL / NRL fans are available (if they want), but players are on international duty This isn't a confidence issue. Serve up shit, watch the hardened fans continue to turn their back until nobody is left A thrilling 4-3 match between two woefully low standard teams playing a low standard match will draw a crowd for those teams the following week. Except we dont see evidence of this
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+xI think Perth and Adelaide really need to lift their attendances I agree. Perth have ALWAYS been underwhelming for me crowd wise I think they don't do enough in big games, maybe it is the lack of derby or rivalry that does it but I just think Perth should be aiming higher - only beaten Adelaide's crowd averages 3/14 seasons and it is a bigger city. Adelaide I think we are a club where we will be able to get the crowds back on track, good things are happening at the club to me it seems and I think we should be able to lift our attendances to what they once were.
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+x+xEvery crowd this weekend has been poor really I thought the nix crowd exceeded expectations Maybe that one was 'as expected' actually in hindsight. But this should be a huge deal for them, return of Rudan and co, first game of the season against a new club - realistically they'll struggle to get a better crowd than that all season considering the circumstances around this game. I think they should aiming to be cracking 10k for that personally with the rivalry this game was meant to have. I think the FFA were trying to manufacture a tension between the two clubs by putting this Round 1.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x17k on a rainy day is woeful. I agree libel.
Blaming the weather now? This game should have been sold out weeks before the day, before anyone even knew about the weather. And to not even crack 20k, my gosh. Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums. You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts. But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances... I truly am because I'm a realist. With all the negativity of the past few years I'm very happy with all 3 crowds so far, because it's a solid base to build on without idiots like Gallop and co killing the game with one stupid decision after another. What, like the 40k the first melbourne derby got just last season, and the what, 33k it got this season under the new regime? Given the damage done to confidence over the past couple of years, it’s hardly surprising. There is going to be significant challenges this year which no one should be shocked by. It certainly won’t be easy. Not many people go to the game based on the board or ownership The model is up the shit and nothing has been done to change it. From a footballing point of view we have an unbalanced season flooded with big games, less overall games per team, a bye, still a top 6 for some reason, not to mention a salary cap designed to keep our biggest teams small I watched the second half of AU v SFC and the defending was appalling. And when the A League is good, it is ruined by VAR. It feels like referees arent even making calls anymore because they have the technology to fall back on The clearest message of "metrics first, football last" is delaying the season start for a weekend where AFL / NRL fans are available (if they want), but players are on international duty This isn't a confidence issue. Serve up shit, watch the hardened fans continue to turn their back until nobody is left Cant win, teams attack and the defending is poor, teams defend and the attacking is poor.
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Decent numbers to build on. Let’s hope the clubs do more to keep investing.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x17k on a rainy day is woeful. I agree libel.
Blaming the weather now? This game should have been sold out weeks before the day, before anyone even knew about the weather. And to not even crack 20k, my gosh. Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums. You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts. But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances... I truly am because I'm a realist. With all the negativity of the past few years I'm very happy with all 3 crowds so far, because it's a solid base to build on without idiots like Gallop and co killing the game with one stupid decision after another. What, like the 40k the first melbourne derby got just last season, and the what, 33k it got this season under the new regime? Given the damage done to confidence over the past couple of years, it’s hardly surprising. There is going to be significant challenges this year which no one should be shocked by. It certainly won’t be easy. Not many people go to the game based on the board or ownership The model is up the shit and nothing has been done to change it. From a footballing point of view we have an unbalanced season flooded with big games, less overall games per team, a bye, still a top 6 for some reason, not to mention a salary cap designed to keep our biggest teams small I watched the second half of AU v SFC and the defending was appalling. And when the A League is good, it is ruined by VAR. It feels like referees arent even making calls anymore because they have the technology to fall back on The clearest message of "metrics first, football last" is delaying the season start for a weekend where AFL / NRL fans are available (if they want), but players are on international duty This isn't a confidence issue. Serve up shit, watch the hardened fans continue to turn their back until nobody is left You are completely wrong. The standard of play is irrelevant. Huge crowds attend non competitive matches. A thrilling 4-3 match between two woefully low standard teams playing a low standard match will draw a crowd for those teams the following week.
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I think Perth and Adelaide really need to lift their attendances
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bettega
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+xEvery crowd this weekend has been poor really I thought the nix crowd exceeded expectations
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The still when the header was made by Brisbane shows how far behind the line the linesman was. Very poor
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76K overall - a lot of rounds significantly less than that.
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9829 in Perth
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Every crowd this weekend has been poor really
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8,300 in Wellington today
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bluebird
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x17k on a rainy day is woeful. I agree libel.
Blaming the weather now? This game should have been sold out weeks before the day, before anyone even knew about the weather. And to not even crack 20k, my gosh. Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums. You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts. But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances... I truly am because I'm a realist. With all the negativity of the past few years I'm very happy with all 3 crowds so far, because it's a solid base to build on without idiots like Gallop and co killing the game with one stupid decision after another. What, like the 40k the first melbourne derby got just last season, and the what, 33k it got this season under the new regime? Given the damage done to confidence over the past couple of years, it’s hardly surprising. There is going to be significant challenges this year which no one should be shocked by. It certainly won’t be easy. Not many people go to the game based on the board or ownership The model is up the shit and nothing has been done to change it. From a footballing point of view we have an unbalanced season flooded with big games, less overall games per team, a bye, still a top 6 for some reason, not to mention a salary cap designed to keep our biggest teams small I watched the second half of AU v SFC and the defending was appalling. And when the A League is good, it is ruined by VAR. It feels like referees arent even making calls anymore because they have the technology to fall back on The clearest message of "metrics first, football last" is delaying the season start for a weekend where AFL / NRL fans are available (if they want), but players are on international duty This isn't a confidence issue. Serve up shit, watch the hardened fans continue to turn their back until nobody is left
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+x+xDoes anyone know how to block people? There is some toxic shit I just dont need. lol, not laughing at you but your post was reported for being off topic and irrelevant. You would be doing me a favour if you ban me.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x17k on a rainy day is woeful. I agree libel.
Blaming the weather now? This game should have been sold out weeks before the day, before anyone even knew about the weather. And to not even crack 20k, my gosh. Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums. You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts. But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances... I truly am because I'm a realist. With all the negativity of the past few years I'm very happy with all 3 crowds so far, because it's a solid base to build on without idiots like Gallop and co killing the game with one stupid decision after another. What, like the 40k the first melbourne derby got just last season, and the what, 33k it got this season under the new regime? Given the damage done to confidence over the past couple of years, it’s hardly surprising. There is going to be significant challenges this year which no one should be shocked by. It certainly won’t be easy. LOL, it was just last season that 40k. Any "damage to confidence" must have happened after the new regime took over...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x17k on a rainy day is woeful. I agree libel.
Blaming the weather now? This game should have been sold out weeks before the day, before anyone even knew about the weather. And to not even crack 20k, my gosh. Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums. You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts. But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances... I truly am because I'm a realist. With all the negativity of the past few years I'm very happy with all 3 crowds so far, because it's a solid base to build on without idiots like Gallop and co killing the game with one stupid decision after another. What, like the 40k the first melbourne derby got just last season, and the what, 33k it got this season under the new regime? Given the damage done to confidence over the past couple of years, it’s hardly surprising. There is going to be significant challenges this year which no one should be shocked by. It certainly won’t be easy.
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+x+x+x+x+x17k on a rainy day is woeful. I agree libel.
Blaming the weather now? This game should have been sold out weeks before the day, before anyone even knew about the weather. And to not even crack 20k, my gosh. Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums. You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts. But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances... I truly am because I'm a realist. With all the negativity of the past few years I'm very happy with all 3 crowds so far, because it's a solid base to build on without idiots like Gallop and co killing the game with one stupid decision after another. What, like the 40k the first melbourne derby got just last season, and the what, 33k it got this season under the new regime?
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+x+x+x+x17k on a rainy day is woeful. I agree libel.
Blaming the weather now? This game should have been sold out weeks before the day, before anyone even knew about the weather. And to not even crack 20k, my gosh. Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums. You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts. But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances... I truly am because I'm a realist. With all the negativity of the past few years I'm very happy with all 3 crowds so far, because it's a solid base to build on without idiots like Gallop and co killing the game with one stupid decision after another.
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+x+x+x17k on a rainy day is woeful. I agree libel.
Blaming the weather now? This game should have been sold out weeks before the day, before anyone even knew about the weather. And to not even crack 20k, my gosh. Clearly you know nothing about Australian football if you think we should be selling out 30k capacity stadiums. You remind me so much of people like Steven Lowy and David Gallop who just expect sold out stadiums, yet give no valid reason why they expect this to happen. And at the same time they'd ignore every valid reason why crowds are down. I have given reasons. Refer my earlier posts. But hey, if you're happy with only 17k in the circumstances...
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