China would've been criticised either way but had they been totally up front about it all they'd have scored internationally. They don't want to show and weakness domestically but how their local populace will be questioning this even more. 

Medellin murder rate has sunk to a record low. 

Idiots having a party down my street

Yes but galling is how they're carrying on like they're the world's saviour.

They're a bunch of pricks that have essentially set fire to your house and then sent 2 buckets of water around and boasted about what great people they are for doing it.

I’d be skeptical. There are easier ways to spread things than having people running around to supermarkets.

Can you post some links to those videos mate?

https://mobile.twitter.com/209TimesCA/status/1244768513199206400

Very odd behaviour. 

Yes, very odd...

But if he/she is spreading China Virus, he/she is doing it with their bare hands. Won't he/she get it too?

Ring the police. 

Completely anecdotal but my own experience is that I feel far safer when I'm at the shops around Asian Australians. They seem to be taking things far more seriously, keep their distance and wear gloves etc. 

to be honest she kinda just looks a little "not quite there"

Something about this whole dob your neighbour in vibe going round does not sit well with me at all

We saw it spike after 9/11 as well asking us to report suspicious looking dark skinned people

This is the beginning of the end of society when this sort of behaviour is encouraged and then accepted as normal

Not saying the party people are right Im just saying something about "dob your neighbour in for the good of your country" makes me feel REALLY uncomfortable

Call the cops fam

-PB

Better than the old idiots who now roam the streets free of the encumbrance of young people

Everyone in the supermarket I went to yesterday was 80+ years old holding just a few items each

Not to mention they dont keep their distance. They are the ones my life has been put on hold for (some things possibly never to return) to protect yet they are the ones out strutting their wrinkly stuff. "c'mon ethel, there's noone around it's wonderful"

They probably realise if Corona doesn't get them another flu based pneumonia will next year so why spend the last years of your life living like a mole.

Yeah mate, stay away from Newton Drakes. I was horrified by the old italians shuffling around coughing into their hands and then touching food etc. The other bad ones were Mums our age bumping into friends and having a chat about how terrible the situation is with their trolleys and kids clogging up aisles.

I'm not locking myself down, working from home while looking after kids, stopping all my social activity and actually abiding by the new law, so arseholes down the street can flaunt law breaking. If we all take this seriously, the sooner we all get back to life as normal. There is no excuse not to whistle-blow at this time. Love thy neighbours that are actually contributing to society - the arseholes that aren't are actually stitching up every single person around them. You want community vibes? Don't be an arsehole to the community. 

None of that aimed at you (except the encouragement to whistle-blow if you see the rules being broken). 

Aha yeah I haven't been to that one for a while but I don't plan to either. It's a cramped enough supermarket at the best of times!
Not to mention I'm bound to run into someone I know/knew there and I dont like chit chat on a sunday morning at the supermarket aha

Mate one of the most disappointing aspects of all this is it's given a green light to closet racists who have had to keep schtum for too long for their liking.  

No one should be ragging on Asian Australians who are doing the right thing.  My beef is with their government.  They've been a disgrace throughout this whole thing and the sycophants that refuse to call them out are just as bad.

I'm no fan of Trump but at least he's calling a spade a giant fucking shovel.

I know mate. The CCP have plenty to answer for.

I don't believe there is a lot of racism out there. We are normally a very friendly country.

However, I think this whole situation is becoming a great opportunity for Australian's to reclaim their country. We have been selling Australia off to Chinese interests like our farms and outsourcing our entire manufacturing base. So we need to ask questions here and re-assess our relations with China.

This so much, but thats going to be damn hard to correct.
Gov no matter whos in is gutless to stand up to them in the fear of so much business alliance with them.
We've just put ourselves into huge more debt now thanks to them but servering ties or at least getting some control back with add a heap more negative to our economy.
Catch22.

Lol.  We're not racist but we arc up about China investing in Australia when the US invested (bought up farms and businesses) to the tune of 10 times the Chinese investment last year.

Funny how no one says fuck all about the UK and the US buying our shit.  But they're white after all so that might have something to do with it.

China - 9th.  https://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/resources/investment-statistics/Pages/statistics-on-who-invests-in-australia

Thats  because the media ignore that little tidbit and juat focus on China and anti Chinese/Asian sentiment. 

I can't be the only one to have thought one silver lining of the lockdown is that it's a unique opportunity to do an infrastructure building blitz. For example, with the Westgate upgrade they're mostly only shutting down parts the freeway at nights on weekends to work, may as well make it a 24/7 operation now. Obviously you can't get this sort of thing organised with the snap of your fingers, but there's no better time for the stimulus infrastructure spending brings.

There is a clear difference here. Firstly, the US and UK don't buy all of our shit. We are allowed to invest in UK and US companies. We can buy property there as well.

But we can't buy ANYTHING in China, or any property, but they can buy our farms. Also, there is a human rights issue here as well. 

It's got nothing at all to do with them being Chinese. We don't have an issue with the Japanese buying stuff here because they are an open market, China isn't. 

We are dealing with a dark Government here in the CCP. So we don't have to include the Chinese people in this at all. We are very happy to do business with the Chinese and eat their food and go to their Restaurants. I for one love Chinese food, and think they are a marvelous people, but there is something seedy about the CCP (Government) and the day will come when it will be too late.

Our generations will be fine. Our kids and their kids won't. 

But no one will be on the roads. lol

In fairness, one reason could be that Australian individuals and companies are allowed to buy property and land in the UK and USA as well, however China doesn't reciprocate. Also any objections to their government, human rights record etc are valid.

I'm not one to call racism at the drop of a hat, but there absolutely is a xenophobic aspect as well, of course.

That's my point. They should get as much built as they can while the roads are empty(er).

The blitz is annoying.  . Robinsons road is still busy since all transport and cars use it to get onto the ring road /deer park bypass . Yes I'm still working 

this so much, its no about racism one bit.
For now they are ranked 9th in investment here, just wait.
Hope our Gov wakes up.
I have been doing biz in China for near 20yrs, imports back here and drop shipments to other countries ex china.
Seen alot, we all know not to trust them, no Gov is honest but CCP, phhht, bad news.
I got an interesting article regards Italy - sure its a italian journos pov and I do business in the north as well and spoken to many during my visits.
Its amazing how much this journo quotes that I've seen there from observations.
Sorry its a long read but worth it imo.

Subject: ITALY’S RECIPE FOR DISASTER

A must read for everybody!
ITALY’S COMMUNIST RECIPE FOR DISASTER
Published March 24, 2020 | By Giacomino Nicolazzo


 
Montecalvo, Lombardy, Italy.
 
As I sit here in my involuntary isolation, it was just reported that overnight 743 more people died and 5.249 new cases have been reported. This brings the total cases of infection to 69,176 and the body count to 6,820. We take relief in knowing that 8,326 people have recovered so far. (Numbers as of 3/24, 8:30pm in Italy.)
Most towns here in Italy, from the upper reaches of the Alps to the ancient shores of Sicilia and Sardenia, while not deserted, are closer to being ghost towns than the bustling centers of tourism, business and daily life they were just a few weeks ago.
Stores and shops have been shuttered. Restaurants and coffee shops no longer serve customers. Schools, universities, sporting arenas…even our museums and theaters…all closed. Even the Vatican City has closed its gates and armed patrols monitor the 20 foot tall walls that protect it!
Streets and roads are now empty for as far as the eye can see. Normally they would be filled with crazed Italian drivers in tiny cars and scooters (the ones that sound like demonic insects) darting here and there, reaching the limits of centrifugal force on our roundabouts. In the piazze of our towns and cities, there are now officially more pigeons than people.
Many of us know someone who has been infected and recovered. Some of us know someone who did not recover…now they are dead. But everyone knows someone who has been affected by this microscopic monster in one way or another.
Sixty million of us are in lockdown…it is like a war zone here. We are being held prisoner in our own homes by an unseen enemy that sneaked in unnoticed…by most of us. As you will read in just a few more minutes, there were those who knew something like this was coming…or at least they should have.
So who is to blame? With all this craziness swirling like a whirlpool at our feet, I just had to find the blame answer. And so I have spent my free time (of which I have a lot in these days) digging and researching. I was literally shocked to discover how this has come to be.
I am not going to bore you with talk of Patient ‘0’ who spread it to Patient ‘1’ and how mathematics efficiently explains the rapid expansion of infection. No…I am going to tell you how (as I see it) the virus came to Italy.
It has everything to do with communists. Allow me to explain.
Beginning in about 2014, Matteo Renzi, the imbecile ex-mayor of Firenze (Florence) acting as the leader of the Partito Democratico (synonymous with the Italian Communist party), somehow managed to get himself elected as Italy’s Prime Minister. To give you a proper frame of reference, Matteo Renzi was so far left, he would make Barack Obama look like Barry Goldwater!
At the same time that Renzi was leading Italy into oblivion, strange things were happening in Italy’s economy. Banks were failing…but not closing. Retirement ages were being extended…for some reason the pension funds were dwindling or disappearing. The national sales tax we call IVA (Value Added Tax) rose from 18% to 20%, then to 21% and again to 22%.
And in the midst of all this financial chicanery, the Chinese began furiously buying up Italian real estate and businesses in the North.
Now the reason I mention Renzi and the Chinese together is that strange things were also going on between the governments of Italy and China. A blind eye was being turned to the way the Chinese were buying businesses in the financial, telecommunication, industrial and fashion sectors of Italy’s economy, all of which take place in Milano.
To be brief…China was getting away with purchases and acquisitions in violation of Italian law and EU Trade Agreements with the US and the UK…and no one in either of those countries (not Obama in the US or Cameron in the UK) said a thing in their country’s defense. As a matter of fact, much of it was hidden from the public in all three countries.
In 2014, China infused the Italian economy with €5 billion through purchases of companies costing less than €100 million each. By the time Renzi left office (in disgrace) in 2016, Chinese acquisitions had exceeded €52 billion. When the dust settled, China owned more than 300 companies…representing 27% of the major Italian corporations.
The Bank of China now owns five major banks in Italy…all of which had been secretly (and illegally) propped up by Renzi using pilfered pension funds! Soon after, the China Milano Equity Exchange was opened and much of Italy’s wealth was being funneled back to the Chinese mainland.
Chinese state entities own Italy’s major telecommunication corporation (Telecom) as well as its major utilities (ENI and ENEL). Upon entry into the telecommunication market, Huawei established a facility in Segrate, a suburb of Milano. It launched is first research center there and worked on the study of microwaves which has resulted in the possibly-dangerous technology we call 5G.
China also now owns controlling interest in Fiat-Chrysler, Prysmian and Terna. You will be surprised to know that when you put a set of Pirelli tires on your car, the profits are going to China. Yep…the Chinese colossus of ChemChina, a chemical industry titan, bought that company too!
Last but not least is Ferretti yachts…the most prestigious yacht builder in Europe. Incredibly, it is no longer owned by the Ferretti family.
But the sector in which Chinese companies invested most was Italy’s profitable fashion industry. The Pinco Pallino, Miss Sixty, Sergio Tacchini, Roberta di Camerino and Mariella Burani brands have been acquired by 100%.
Designer Salvatore Ferragamo sold 16% and Caruso sold 35%. The most famous case is Krizia, purchased in 2014 by Shenzhen Marisfrolg Fashion Company, one of the leaders of high-priced, ready-to-wear fashions in Asia.
Throughout all of these purchases and acquisitions, Renzi’s government afforded the Chinese unrestricted and unfettered access to Italy and its financial markets, many coming through without customs inspections.
Quite literally, tens of thousands of Chinese came in through Milano (illegally) and went back out carrying money, technology and corporate secrets.
Thousands more were allowed to enter and disappeared into shadows of Milano and other manufacturing cities of Lombardy, only to surface in illegal sewing shops, producing knock-off designer clothes and slapping ‘Made In Italy’ labels on them. All with the tacit approval of the Renzi government.
It was not until there was a change in the governing party in Italy that the sweatshops and the illegal entry and departure of Chinese nationals was stopped. Matteo Salvini, representing the Lega Nord party, closed Italy’s ports to immigrants and systematically began disassembling the sweatshops and deporting those in Italy illegally.
But his rise to power was short-lived. Italy is a communist country…socialism is in the national DNA. Ways were found to remove Salvini, after which the communist party, under the direction of Giuseppe Conte, reopened the ports. Immediately, thousands of unvetted, undocumented refugees from the Middle East and East Africa began pouring in again.
Access was again provided to the Chinese, under the old terms, and as a consequence thousands of Chinese, the majority from Wuhan, began arriving in Milano.
In December of last year, the first inklings of a coronavirus were noticed in Lombardy…in the Chinese neighborhoods. There is no doubt amongst senior medical officials that the virus was brought here from China.
By the end of January 2020 cases were being reported left and right. By mid-February the virus was beginning to seriously overload the Lombardy hospitals and medical clinics. They are now in a state of collapse.
The Far-Left politicians sold out and betrayed the Italian people with open border policies and social justice programs. One of the reasons the health care system collapsed so quickly is because the Renzi government (and now continued under the Conte government) redirected funds meant to sustain the medical system, to pay for the tens of thousands of immigrants brought in to Italy against the will of the Italian people.
If you remember the horrible earthquake that decimated the villages around Amatricia, in the mountains east of Rome in 2015, you would also remember how the world responded by sending millions of dollars to help those affected.
But there is a law in Italy that prevents private donations to charitable Italian organizations. All money and donations received must be turned over to a government agency, who in turn is to appropriate the funds as needed. But that agency is corrupt just as are all the others.
Most of the money never reached a single victim in the mountains. The Renzi government redirected the vast majority of those funds to pay for the growing immigrant and refugee costs.
As the economy worsened under the burden of illegal immigration, compounded by gross government spending and incompetence, unemployment rose quickly…especially among young people. The unemployment rate for men and women under age 35 is close to 40%.
So more money was diverted from the health care system and used to pay what is known here as guaranteed income. Whether you work or not you are paid here, especially if you belong to the PD! The government simply raises taxes on those who do work.
Let me give you a quick example of the height of insanity to which Italian taxation has risen. If you live in a building that has a balcony or balconies…and any of those balconies cast a shadow on the ground, you must pay a public shadow tax! I will say no more!
The point I am trying to make here is that not only did the Chinese bring the virus to Italy (and the rest of the world) it was far-Left politics and policies that facilitated it.
This should hopefully be a warning to Americans that while they work to rid themselves of the China Virus, they should just as vehemently endeavor to rid their government of any politician that circumvents the Constitution and ignores the laws of the land…plain and simple.