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No shock. The CIA and FBI and the Justice Department expected Clinton to win thinking they would never be held to account. So now they will delay it until after the election and depending on the election outcome it may never come out at all. https://consortiumnews.com/2020/10/07/ray-mcgovern-trump-orders-russiagate-documents-declassified/
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Muz
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Burztur
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Ok. I thought Trump was pushing Barr for this investigation material to be released but Barr said it won’t be ready before the Election Day. Or am I mixing things up?
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Muz
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+xOk. I thought Trump was pushing Barr for this investigation material to be released but Barr said it won’t be ready before the Election Day. Or am I mixing things up? It makes no difference anyway. It's all lies. The Russians hacked the DNC and ran a disinformation campaign and tried to influence the election in 2016. They were also heavily involved in brexit. There's more than enough evidence, independently verified, by multiple agencies and organisations, public and private, that confirm this is what happened. Only someone with TDS would take the word of Russia over the collective investigations of these multiple agencies and organisations. Enzo's best gambit here is a bloke who hasn't worked for the CIA since 1990 who has put out a theory not backed by everyone in his own group on a website that is far from credible. This is what wilful ignorance looks like folks.
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Burztur
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+x+xOk. I thought Trump was pushing Barr for this investigation material to be released but Barr said it won’t be ready before the Election Day. Or am I mixing things up? It makes no difference anyway. It's all lies. The Russians hacked the DNC and ran a disinformation campaign and tried to influence the election in 2016. They were also heavily involved in brexit. There's more than enough evidence, independently verified, by multiple agencies and organisations, public and private, that confirm this is what happened. Only someone with TDS would take the word of Russia over the collective investigations of these multiple agencies and organisations. Enzo's best gambit here is a bloke who hasn't worked for the CIA since 1990 who has put out a theory not backed by everyone in his own group on a website that is far from credible. This is what wilful ignorance looks like folks. The point I wanted to make is that with Trump in charge for 3.5 years, he has found nothing.
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paulbagzFC
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The TV president starting to feel the pinch lol. On screen medical exam lol, ranting about Hillary (still). -PB
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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+x+xOk. I thought Trump was pushing Barr for this investigation material to be released but Barr said it won’t be ready before the Election Day. Or am I mixing things up? It makes no difference anyway. It's all lies. The Russians hacked the DNC and ran a disinformation campaign and tried to influence the election in 2016. They were also heavily involved in brexit. There's more than enough evidence, independently verified, by multiple agencies and organisations, public and private, that confirm this is what happened. Only someone with TDS would take the word of Russia over the collective investigations of these multiple agencies and organisations. Enzo's best gambit here is a bloke who hasn't worked for the CIA since 1990 who has put out a theory not backed by everyone in his own group on a website that is far from credible. This is what wilful ignorance looks like folks. The point I wanted to make is that with Trump in charge for 3.5 years, he has found nothing. The point is you can't find anything until the files are released.
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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+xOk. I thought Trump was pushing Barr for this investigation material to be released but Barr said it won’t be ready before the Election Day. Or am I mixing things up? It makes no difference anyway. It's all lies. The Russians hacked the DNC and ran a disinformation campaign and tried to influence the election in 2016. They were also heavily involved in brexit. There's more than enough evidence, independently verified, by multiple agencies and organisations, public and private, that confirm this is what happened. Only someone with TDS would take the word of Russia over the collective investigations of these multiple agencies and organisations. Enzo's best gambit here is a bloke who hasn't worked for the CIA since 1990 who has put out a theory not backed by everyone in his own group on a website that is far from credible. This is what wilful ignorance looks like folks. The there is nothing to worry about releasing the files un-redacted. So why the delay? Me thinks you doth protest too much.
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Burztur
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+x+x+x+xOk. I thought Trump was pushing Barr for this investigation material to be released but Barr said it won’t be ready before the Election Day. Or am I mixing things up? It makes no difference anyway. It's all lies. The Russians hacked the DNC and ran a disinformation campaign and tried to influence the election in 2016. They were also heavily involved in brexit. There's more than enough evidence, independently verified, by multiple agencies and organisations, public and private, that confirm this is what happened. Only someone with TDS would take the word of Russia over the collective investigations of these multiple agencies and organisations. Enzo's best gambit here is a bloke who hasn't worked for the CIA since 1990 who has put out a theory not backed by everyone in his own group on a website that is far from credible. This is what wilful ignorance looks like folks. The point I wanted to make is that with Trump in charge for 3.5 years, he has found nothing. The point is you can't find anything until the files are released. But doesn’t the AG have full access to those records?
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+x+x+x+x+xOk. I thought Trump was pushing Barr for this investigation material to be released but Barr said it won’t be ready before the Election Day. Or am I mixing things up? It makes no difference anyway. It's all lies. The Russians hacked the DNC and ran a disinformation campaign and tried to influence the election in 2016. They were also heavily involved in brexit. There's more than enough evidence, independently verified, by multiple agencies and organisations, public and private, that confirm this is what happened. Only someone with TDS would take the word of Russia over the collective investigations of these multiple agencies and organisations. Enzo's best gambit here is a bloke who hasn't worked for the CIA since 1990 who has put out a theory not backed by everyone in his own group on a website that is far from credible. This is what wilful ignorance looks like folks. The point I wanted to make is that with Trump in charge for 3.5 years, he has found nothing. The point is you can't find anything until the files are released. But doesn’t the AG have full access to those records? Yes . They do have access to the files
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paulbagzFC
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Today's America if You're Listening is a wild ride lol -PB
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+xToday's America if You're Listening is a wild ride lol -PB Yeah great series. The Russian ones are awesome too. Some of this stuff they get up to is amazing. For all the James Bond stuff you hear about there's some rank amateurs running around getting caught and leaving a trail a blind man could follow.
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paulbagzFC
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+x+xToday's America if You're Listening is a wild ride lol -PB Yeah great series. The Russian ones are awesome too. Some of this stuff they get up to is amazing. For all the James Bond stuff you hear about there's some rank amateurs running around getting caught and leaving a trail a blind man could follow. Yeah have been listening since they first came out, incredible series. The stuff with the poisoning attempts and how Putin came to power is insane. Today's ep was just downright depressing. -PB
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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+x+x+x+x+xOk. I thought Trump was pushing Barr for this investigation material to be released but Barr said it won’t be ready before the Election Day. Or am I mixing things up? It makes no difference anyway. It's all lies. The Russians hacked the DNC and ran a disinformation campaign and tried to influence the election in 2016. They were also heavily involved in brexit. There's more than enough evidence, independently verified, by multiple agencies and organisations, public and private, that confirm this is what happened. Only someone with TDS would take the word of Russia over the collective investigations of these multiple agencies and organisations. Enzo's best gambit here is a bloke who hasn't worked for the CIA since 1990 who has put out a theory not backed by everyone in his own group on a website that is far from credible. This is what wilful ignorance looks like folks. The point I wanted to make is that with Trump in charge for 3.5 years, he has found nothing. The point is you can't find anything until the files are released. But doesn’t the AG have full access to those records? Yes . They do have access to the files Special counsel’s ( Mueller) investigation “did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” Attorney General William Barr, 2019.
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Muz
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xOk. I thought Trump was pushing Barr for this investigation material to be released but Barr said it won’t be ready before the Election Day. Or am I mixing things up? It makes no difference anyway. It's all lies. The Russians hacked the DNC and ran a disinformation campaign and tried to influence the election in 2016. They were also heavily involved in brexit. There's more than enough evidence, independently verified, by multiple agencies and organisations, public and private, that confirm this is what happened. Only someone with TDS would take the word of Russia over the collective investigations of these multiple agencies and organisations. Enzo's best gambit here is a bloke who hasn't worked for the CIA since 1990 who has put out a theory not backed by everyone in his own group on a website that is far from credible. This is what wilful ignorance looks like folks. The point I wanted to make is that with Trump in charge for 3.5 years, he has found nothing. The point is you can't find anything until the files are released. But doesn’t the AG have full access to those records? Yes . They do have access to the files Special counsel’s ( Mueller) investigation “did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” Attorney General William Barr, 2019. The same Barr that released a false summary (initially) and falsely claimed the report exonerated that president? That William Barr?
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+x+x+x+x+x+xOk. I thought Trump was pushing Barr for this investigation material to be released but Barr said it won’t be ready before the Election Day. Or am I mixing things up? It makes no difference anyway. It's all lies. The Russians hacked the DNC and ran a disinformation campaign and tried to influence the election in 2016. They were also heavily involved in brexit. There's more than enough evidence, independently verified, by multiple agencies and organisations, public and private, that confirm this is what happened. Only someone with TDS would take the word of Russia over the collective investigations of these multiple agencies and organisations. Enzo's best gambit here is a bloke who hasn't worked for the CIA since 1990 who has put out a theory not backed by everyone in his own group on a website that is far from credible. This is what wilful ignorance looks like folks. The point I wanted to make is that with Trump in charge for 3.5 years, he has found nothing. The point is you can't find anything until the files are released. But doesn’t the AG have full access to those records? Yes . They do have access to the files If that’s the case, then if there was something damning, it would be released by now but Barr is saying they might get it done post election...
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Burztur
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A plethora of guns, a race baiting president, hot heads and a deeply divided partisan country. What could possibly go wrong?
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paulbagzFC
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+xA plethora of guns, a race baiting president, hot heads and a deeply divided partisan country. What could possibly go wrong? Another season of Keeping up with the Kardashians? -PB
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+xA plethora of guns, a race baiting president, hot heads and a deeply divided partisan country. What could possibly go wrong? Looks like it was a security guard with a news crew who shot the guy. Not saying he deserved to be shot but why the fuck would you use bear mace like that. How stupid could you get?
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Muz
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Trump with some Soviet era style propaganda. https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/in-brazen-manipulation-trump-campaign-twists-fauci-comment-to-suggest-praise-of-president-20201012-p5644e.html"The comments attributed to me without my permission in the GOP campaign ad were taken out of context from a broad statement I made months ago about the efforts of federal public health officials," Fauci in a statement provided to CNN when asked if he agreed to be featured in the ad.
Things must be desperate when you have to falsely attribute statements to make you look good. Presumably TDS's if he was doing a bang up job there'd be loads of positive statements to cherry pick?
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But Trump supporters don't like Fauci so I'm not sure who it is they're appealing too lol -PB
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+xA plethora of guns, a race baiting president, hot heads and a deeply divided partisan country. What could possibly go wrong? Ahhhh so it was the Trump supporters fault he got shot dead, because he’s a “hot head”, and it’s Trump’s fault because he’s a “race baiting” president? But it’s not the private security guards fault who pulled the trigger, even though he espoused left wing anti Trump views. Ah I see what’s going on here:
Left wing = good, moral and innocent
Right wing = bad, immoral, race baiting, hot head, guilty
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+x+xA plethora of guns, a race baiting president, hot heads and a deeply divided partisan country. What could possibly go wrong? Ahhhh so it was the Trump supporters fault he got shot dead, because he’s a “hot head”, and it’s Trump’s fault because he’s a “race baiting” president? But it’s not the private security guards fault who pulled the trigger, even though he espoused left wing anti Trump views. Ah I see what’s going on here:
Left wing = good, moral and innocent
Right wing = bad, immoral, race baiting, hot head, guilty
I think everyone needs to calm down and stand down...
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+x+xA plethora of guns, a race baiting president, hot heads and a deeply divided partisan country. What could possibly go wrong? Ahhhh so it was the Trump supporters fault he got shot dead, because he’s a “hot head”, and it’s Trump’s fault because he’s a “race baiting” president? But it’s not the private security guards fault who pulled the trigger, even though he espoused left wing anti Trump views. Ah I see what’s going on here:
Left wing = good, moral and innocent
Right wing = bad, immoral, race baiting, hot head, guilty
To be honest I actually didn't even know who was on what side of that argument in that article. It was a commentary on the availability of guns and the potential for things to go south when shit goes down. But if you like Rus. A plethora of guns - non-partisan fact hot heads - non-partisan fact deeply divided partisan country - non-partisan fact. So none of those statements are left or right wing. As for the statement 'a race baiting president' that's factual. Refused to disavow white nationalists in Charlottsville saying that were good people on both sides. (Reluctantly changed course 2 days after the fact.) And given the opportunity to denounce white supremacists at the last debate refused to do so. It's not my fault your bloke is a race baiting, dog whistling prick. Here's an article about his form. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/09/the-end-of-denial/614194/Also an excerpt from a book on Trump. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/woodward-book-trump-charlottesville/index.htmlTrump's August 2017 remarks concluding there was "blame on both sides" for the violence was a stunning moment early in his presidency that ignited a backlash over his views on race and consumed the White House for days. The new revelations may reopen that debate.
In the book, Woodward describes how then-White House staff secretary Rob Porter worked with Trump to write a second speech to try to repair his initial comments about violence at the marches.
Porter tried to convince the President he needed to clarify his remarks. But Trump appeared to resist, according to the book, repeatedly saying: "I don't know about this. ... This doesn't feel right to me."
Eventually, Trump agreed, and two days later in a televised speech he denounced racism, the "KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups." Woodward describes how White House aides were relieved, and chief of staff John Kelly encouraged staff to tell the President what a good job he did.
But then Trump turned on the TV.
One Fox News commentator gave Trump praise but also added, "That's almost an admission of 'Okay, I was wrong.'" Then Fox News correspondent Kevin Corke said: "Some 48 hours into the biggest domestic challenge of his young presidency, Mr. Trump has made a course correction."
Trump exploded at the coverage, Woodward reports. "That was the biggest fucking mistake I've made," the President told Porter. "You never make those concessions. You never apologize. I didn't do anything wrong in the first place. Why look weak?"
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paulbagzFC
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+x+xA plethora of guns, a race baiting president, hot heads and a deeply divided partisan country. What could possibly go wrong? Ahhhh so it was the Trump supporters fault he got shot dead, because he’s a “hot head”, and it’s Trump’s fault because he’s a “race baiting” president? But it’s not the private security guards fault who pulled the trigger, even though he espoused left wing anti Trump views. Ah I see what’s going on here:
Left wing = good, moral and innocent
Right wing = bad, immoral, race baiting, hot head, guilty
You're a loser that's fallen for the culture wars lol Grow the fuck up. -PB
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+x+x+xA plethora of guns, a race baiting president, hot heads and a deeply divided partisan country. What could possibly go wrong? Ahhhh so it was the Trump supporters fault he got shot dead, because he’s a “hot head”, and it’s Trump’s fault because he’s a “race baiting” president? But it’s not the private security guards fault who pulled the trigger, even though he espoused left wing anti Trump views. Ah I see what’s going on here:
Left wing = good, moral and innocent
Right wing = bad, immoral, race baiting, hot head, guilty
To be honest I actually didn't even know who was on what side of that argument in that article. It was a commentary on the availability of guns and the potential for things to go south when shit goes down. But if you like Rus. A plethora of guns - non-partisan fact hot heads - non-partisan fact deeply divided partisan country - non-partisan fact. So none of those statements are left or right wing. As for the statement 'a race baiting president' that's factual. Refused to disavow white nationalists in Charlottsville saying that were good people on both sides. (Reluctantly changed course 2 days after the fact.) And given the opportunity to denounce white supremacists at the last debate refused to do so. It's not my fault your bloke is a race baiting, dog whistling prick. Here's an article about his form. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/09/the-end-of-denial/614194/Also an excerpt from a book on Trump. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/woodward-book-trump-charlottesville/index.htmlTrump's August 2017 remarks concluding there was "blame on both sides" for the violence was a stunning moment early in his presidency that ignited a backlash over his views on race and consumed the White House for days. The new revelations may reopen that debate.
In the book, Woodward describes how then-White House staff secretary Rob Porter worked with Trump to write a second speech to try to repair his initial comments about violence at the marches.
Porter tried to convince the President he needed to clarify his remarks. But Trump appeared to resist, according to the book, repeatedly saying: "I don't know about this. ... This doesn't feel right to me."
Eventually, Trump agreed, and two days later in a televised speech he denounced racism, the "KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups." Woodward describes how White House aides were relieved, and chief of staff John Kelly encouraged staff to tell the President what a good job he did.
But then Trump turned on the TV.
One Fox News commentator gave Trump praise but also added, "That's almost an admission of 'Okay, I was wrong.'" Then Fox News correspondent Kevin Corke said: "Some 48 hours into the biggest domestic challenge of his young presidency, Mr. Trump has made a course correction."
Trump exploded at the coverage, Woodward reports. "That was the biggest fucking mistake I've made," the President told Porter. "You never make those concessions. You never apologize. I didn't do anything wrong in the first place. Why look weak?" https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/Trump Has Condemned White SupremacistsTrump drew criticism for his condemnation of “hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides” after a rally organized by a white nationalist in Charlottesville in 2017, and for saying there were “very fine people on both sides.” But, contrary to Biden’s claim, the president twice specifically condemned white supremacists and neo-Nazis, and he has repeated that condemnation since.
Trump has said his “very fine people” comment referred not to white supremacists and neo-Nazis but to “people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee — a great general, whether you like it or not.”This is what Trump ACTUALLY said "You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. ... I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. ... So you know what, it's fine. You're changing history. You're changing culture. And you had people — and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally — but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Condemned totally Condemned totally Condemned totally Condemned totally Condemned totally So what you wrote, Muz, is completely flat out false, but I do not hold you accountable for parroting mischievous, deliberately misleading information that is designed purely to damage the president, for as Jesus once said, forgive them Father, for they know what what they do. But I do hold you accountable for acquainting yourself with evil, leftist propaganda that seeks to seeks to mislead and misinform people for purely political purposes. It proves that you have indeed allowed yourself to be brainwashed and mindfucked by the twisted ghouls o the left and are no longer capable of rational thought.
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+x+x+xA plethora of guns, a race baiting president, hot heads and a deeply divided partisan country. What could possibly go wrong? Ahhhh so it was the Trump supporters fault he got shot dead, because he’s a “hot head”, and it’s Trump’s fault because he’s a “race baiting” president? But it’s not the private security guards fault who pulled the trigger, even though he espoused left wing anti Trump views. Ah I see what’s going on here:
Left wing = good, moral and innocent
Right wing = bad, immoral, race baiting, hot head, guilty
You're a loser that's fallen for the culture wars lol Grow the fuck up. -PB "Grow the fuck up"? lol
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