Independent A-League will prop up cash-strapped clubs


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Independent A-League will prop up cash-strapped clubs

The A-League club owners will come to the rescue of financially struggling clubs to ensure next season will finish with 12 teams, after reaching an agreement to gain near-full control of the competition from Football Federation Australia.

The transition of ownership of the A-League to the clubs is set to be rubber-stamped within the next two months, once lawyers finalise the terms of the separation of the league from FFA. It means the 2020-21 A-League season will be operated, governed and owned by the A-League clubs for the first time since the competition's inception in 2005.



https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/independent-a-league-will-prop-up-cash-strapped-clubs-20201019-p566hv.html








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Seems like a conflict of interest. How can clubs take money from other clubs?

CCM & NJ may survive next season but beyond that....
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  really  If  no  no  This can' t be serious can it .  . surely not  What a Joke !!
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Hahahahahahahahahahah that's awesome. So will the owner clubs get to choose which one they control or is it a pooled system like MLS? 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 25 Oct 2020 10:17 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahah that's awesome. So will the owner clubs get to choose which one they control or is it a pooled system like MLS? 

Pool system, a fund the owners contribute to.
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soccerfoo - 25 Oct 2020 10:41 PM
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Pool system, a fund the owners contribute to.

That's awesome. Certainly a great way to keep all the retail stores open in a pandemic. Centralise the ownership. So will any new shops have to pay for a license or will they just add to the central pool and they will be allocated a name, a geographic region and a fan base? 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 25 Oct 2020 10:50 PM
soccerfoo - 25 Oct 2020 10:41 PM

That's awesome. Certainly a great way to keep all the retail stores open in a pandemic. Centralise the ownership. So will any new shops have to pay for a license or will they just add to the central pool and they will be allocated a name, a geographic region and a fan base? 

There is not enough large business in and around these regional teams. Look at the Nrl, they won't touch Gosford because they will be perenial strugglers, even with that excellent stadium. Newcastle Knights have only ever been on the breadline until wealthy Wests Group in Newy took over the Knights because they would of folded by now.
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Bloody great decision in this COVID driven economic train wreck year. Bed in the 12 teams this one year; and then move to promotion/relegation mode next year. Then its the survival of the fittest and best, oh what joy!.
Smaller provincial well managed community supported clubs can survive and prosper as they do in other leagues - note Leicester in the EPL.
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overroared - 26 Oct 2020 7:20 AM
Bloody great decision in this COVID driven economic train wreck year. Bed in the 12 teams this one year; and then move to promotion/relegation mode next year. Then its the survival of the fittest and best, oh what joy!.
Smaller provincial well managed community supported clubs can survive and prosper as they do in other leagues - note Leicester in the EPL.

Leister are owned by wealthy Thai business people. Perhaps Southampton, but they are never inside the top12-15 teams. Its a long season and the upset results stop usually after a couple of months into the season.
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It will be interesting as it is against FIFA rules due to compromising integrity of the competition. Also if iAL buy NJ for example, it's in their interest to get the best possible price when they eventually sell, what better way than ensuring NJ are "successful" for a few seasons....









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AJF - 26 Oct 2020 8:28 AM
It will be interesting as it is against FIFA rules due to compromising integrity of the competition. Also if iAL buy NJ for example, it's in their interest to get the best possible price when they eventually sell, what better way than ensuring NJ are "successful" for a few seasons....

Integrity of the competition?? Hahahahah when teams play some other teams twice and others 3 times a year??? hahahahah Best to think of uncle Franks legacy as creating a reality show with legalized gambling.
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soccerfoo - 25 Oct 2020 10:58 PM
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There is not enough large business in and around these regional teams. Look at the Nrl, they won't touch Gosford because they will be perenial strugglers, even with that excellent stadium. Newcastle Knights have only ever been on the breadline until wealthy Wests Group in Newy took over the Knights because they would of folded by now.

The NRL won't touch Gosford because the competition is seen as too Sydney-centric. They see Gosford as just an extension of Sydney. The only way Gosford gets a team is to replace a Sydney team. Otherwise Perth, Adelaide, another Qld or NZ team or even a PNG  team all come in before Gosford.
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Regardless of the Newcastle Jets situation, it’s good to see this process almost over.

Now with aleague as it is it’s going to take time and of course but now there is no excuse for the independent aleague to get right given the FFA don’t control like they used to before.

The main things they have to do in the immediate term is they need to bring is more investment into the aleague, and trying to get the active fans back as well although tough with Covid they need to build those relationships with the fans again as it pissed away by the FFA.
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I think that there has been so much mismanagement of some of these clubs that it borders on criminal
ccm, Jets , Glory and even Roar all one team cities that are unable to be viable , something not quite right.
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notarobot - 26 Oct 2020 10:16 AM
I think that there has been so much mismanagement of some of these clubs that it borders on criminal
ccm, Jets , Glory and even Roar all one team cities that are unable to be viable , something not quite right.

Correct. The FFA keeping too much money that should go to the clubs and then restricting the commercial options clubs have .... pretty much the argument for I-AL 
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AJF - 26 Oct 2020 8:28 AM
It will be interesting as it is against FIFA rules due to compromising integrity of the competition. Also if iAL buy NJ for example, it's in their interest to get the best possible price when they eventually sell, what better way than ensuring NJ are "successful" for a few seasons....

However, the same rules didn’t stop the FFA “acquiring” several A League clubs over the years and selling them for a decent profit. 

The rules you speak of are designed to stop individuals having ownership of more than one club in the same competition due to potential conflicts of interest. 

In this case, iAL will look to create a central fund that props up failing clubs financially until new financial backing can be found. Pretty much what the FFA did and providing an individual club doesn’t exercise operational control (eg the evil CFG dont appoint Director's) it will be well within FIFAs guidelines. 

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Waz - 26 Oct 2020 10:26 AM
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Correct. The FFA keeping too much money that should go to the clubs and then restricting the commercial options clubs have .... pretty much the argument for I-AL 

This.
No national transfer system means clubs make nothing from selling/loaning out players unless it's overseas, and those deals are few and far between.
Clubs make nothing from ticket sales during the finals series.
There is no prize money for winning the league or the GF.
The ACL would be a potential money earner if clubs weren't handicapped by our salary cap.
The clubs don't own their IP, so they make next to nothing from merch sales. ($10 from every shirt sale is a joke).
There are limitations on which sponsors they can use.

Doesn't leave many avenues for generating revenue.

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The MLS went through something similar in the early 2000s when one owner bought 1 or 2 clubs when the league was on the verge of death, this happened when the MLS become an independent league as well.

And look how far they have come now, top level facilities and stadia, marquee players, great promotion and marketing and even better social media platforms, big crowds  and now producing great young players for the top leagues of European football.

We might not achieve the same as them but there is something to aspire too if the independent board and the clubs get the league right, its theirs by 60 days from now so there is no more excuses for them now they own the keys to the house. 
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Barca4Life - 26 Oct 2020 10:45 AM
The MLS went through something similar in the early 2000s when one owner bought 1 or 2 clubs when the league was on the verge of death, this happened when the MLS become an independent league as well.

And look how far they have come now, top level facilities and stadia, marquee players, great promotion and marketing and even better social media platforms, big crowds  and now producing great young players for the top leagues of European football.

We might not achieve the same as them but there is something to aspire too if the independent board and the clubs get the league right, its theirs by 60 days from now so there is no more excuses for them now they own the keys to the house. 

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Will the independent Al league aka clubs be negotiating the next TV rights? Or is that upto the FFA?
Can the FFA in a few years time change the rules for pro/rel or is the competition run by the clubs now?
so who makes these big decisions going forward?
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Tbone - 26 Oct 2020 2:26 PM
Will the independent Al league aka clubs be negotiating the next TV rights? Or is that upto the FFA?
Can the FFA in a few years time change the rules for pro/rel or is the competition run by the clubs now?
so who makes these big decisions going forward?

The league will be owned and operated by the clubs, however the FFA will hold a minority share.
The iAL will be responsible for negotiating the next TV rights.
Apparently the FFA can vito some decisions in the event a particular decision will effect other areas of Australian football and not just the AL. P&R could fall into that category.


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Barca4Life - 26 Oct 2020 10:45 AM
The MLS went through something similar in the early 2000s when one owner bought 1 or 2 clubs when the league was on the verge of death, this happened when the MLS become an independent league as well.

And look how far they have come now, top level facilities and stadia, marquee players, great promotion and marketing and even better social media platforms, big crowds  and now producing great young players for the top leagues of European football.

We might not achieve the same as them but there is something to aspire too if the independent board and the clubs get the league right, its theirs by 60 days from now so there is no more excuses for them now they own the keys to the house. 

Aspiring to be like the MLS???? You and I have different dreams mate :)
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scott20won - 26 Oct 2020 5:45 PM

Is Sydney still spnsored by a betting company? Hmmm that might be untwresting.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 26 Oct 2020 4:27 PM
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Aspiring to be like the MLS???? You and I have different dreams mate :)

I’d take the MLS over what we have. At least they can produce players and have a NSD. 
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TimmyJ - 29 Oct 2020 10:18 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 26 Oct 2020 4:27 PM

I’d take the MLS over what we have. At least they can produce players and have a NSD. 

Yep. Impossible to overstate what a hopeless mess football is in Australia right now. 
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TimmyJ - 29 Oct 2020 10:18 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 26 Oct 2020 4:27 PM

I’d take the MLS over what we have. At least they can produce players and have a NSD. 

Same here. 

They get good crowds as well. They managed and executed the new version of the MLS well from the get go.

Our current lot can’t seem to get out of first gear.

In a resort somewhere

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paulc - 30 Oct 2020 9:26 AM
TimmyJ - 29 Oct 2020 10:18 PM

Same here. 

They get good crowds as well. They managed and executed the new version of the MLS well from the get go.

Our current lot can’t seem to get out of first gear.

So you'd be (are) happy with that same system here? An AFL/MLS imitation franchise league? Clearly working for both the US and Australia, can't wait for our immense clashes in future World Cups. The rest of the world, judging by world rankings must be stupid. 
Like I said previously, I guess everyone has a different dream.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 30 Oct 2020 10:43 AM
paulc - 30 Oct 2020 9:26 AM

So you'd be (are) happy with that same system here? An AFL/MLS imitation franchise league? Clearly working for both the US and Australia, can't wait for our immense clashes in future World Cups. The rest of the world, judging by world rankings must be stupid. 
Like I said previously, I guess everyone has a different dream.

The MLS has done everything better than us except for pro-rel, what's wrong to learn from other countries that have improved?
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Barca4Life - 26 Oct 2020 10:45 AM

True


Listened to the Real Football Show and Greg Griffin who was a former owner of Adelaide United and said the unbundling process was almost 97% percent done, they need to get this done quickly and not muck around.
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