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+x+x+x+x+xCan anyone explain why Trump went nuts when Fox called Arizona? Calling it just means you think it's over it's not actually official so what's the deal. Apparently they rang Rupert and Fox directly to try and get them to retract it. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/us/politics/trump-fox-news-arizona.htmlMr. Trump and his advisers erupted at the news. If it was true that Arizona was lost, it would call into doubt on any claim of victory the president might be able to make.
What ensued for Mr. Trump was a night of angry calls to Republican governors and advice from campaign aides that he ignored, leading to a middle-of-the-night presidential briefing in which he made a reckless and unsubstantiated string of remarks about the democratic process. Standing in the East Room at 2:30 a.m., he dismissed the election as a “fraud” and claimed he wanted to stop the counting of votes and leave the results to the Supreme Court. I missed this question earlier, but my suggested answer in the case of Trump is that he thought a TV station calling it made it official. With anyone else, ever, you'd thinks " Nah, surely they know how it works and understand there's a difference between the TV pundits and the official counting", but not in Trump's case - if the TV says it, he thinks it's true. Thanks. Someone here thought that once declared that was it. Obviously not. Yes - there is an official declaration. However, it is normal for a concession to be done from the TV call. That does not stop litigation continuing - just allows the country to move on.. The Electoral College convenes in the state capitals to formally cast their votes (this is where faithless electors come in) on December 14th, and on January 6th a joint session of Congress formerly counts the votes and the Vice President officially certifies the winner. That said, the major broadcaster's calls should be taken seriously, they put a lot of investment into analyzing the votes and have a lot of reputational risk from calling it incorrectly. This is looking increasingly like a slow motion coup d'état. The US democracy seems now to depend on the whether of GOP state legislators try to seat faithless electors to the Electoral College. I don't know what Biden can do about that but if they do things will turn ugly very quickly. End of Day 7: Trump is down nearly 5 million votes and he and his allies are 0-12 in court.
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paulbagzFC
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Sportsbet odds on Coup? -PB
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+xSportsbet odds on Coup? -PB Its time to grab lady liberty by the
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His Twitter feed is nuts. He is determined to blow the joint up before he goes. Even if he knows he has no chance of a win the comments from his supporters suggest otherwise.
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+xEven if he knows he has no chance of a win the comments from his supporters suggest otherwise. Trump could murder a small child and his cultists would find a way to justify it.
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Comment on twitter combining the ALeague and the US elections Very 2016 Paul Okon areas here from Donny T at the #USElection2020."Mariners Coach Paul Okon insists Central Coast dominated Sydney FC, adamant individual errors were the reason their 4-0 pummelling was not a victory."
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Trump fully turning on Fox now lol -PB
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+xTrump fully turning on Fox now lol -PB Aren't his cultists calling them left wing and fake news? And his followers are leaving Twitter and others for the echo chamber called parler
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+x+xTrump fully turning on Fox now lol -PB Aren't his cultists calling them left wing and fake news? And his followers are leaving Twitter and others for the echo chamber called parler NewsMax is the new Fox
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+x+xHow much division will occur if Trump campaigns for 4 years questioning the democratic process? (If he losses and then runs for 2024) Hard to imagine Biden will still be president given his decline. Harris imo will still have to go up against M Obama imo.
Will we witness mass migration within the US? Assuming that Biden wins that will be the problem. He will be 78 when inaugurated this time. 82 in 4 years time and 86 and the end of that term. Biden has virtually put the Obama coalition back together. The Cubans in Florida came out for Trump by labelling dems Marxist. I think the only person that would have done a better job this time would have been Micelle Obama - but she was adamant she wouldn't stand. But therein lies the problem. Biden will have to expand the democratic coalition by delivering for the Trump supporters. Trump in this election has more supporters than any previous president. That is a lot of people that will go into the next four years thinking that the last 4 years was the first time anyone listened to them. Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren may have gotten more votes in California or NY - but they would have lost the mid-west. I can't imagine Biden running again but also do not think that Harris would necessarily win in 4 years time. That is the Democrats problem - this will be the dilemma for the Republicans. Assuming Trump is not in gaol, will Trump run again in 2024. If he does will it be as a Republican? He just got well north of 70M votes. How many of them are Republicans and how many are Trumpers? Does Trump stay with Fox or does or start his own platform or give his patronage to OANN? If he goes as an independent or Third Party candidate he can severely cripple the Republicans. Do they stay loyal to him in the hope that he sticks with them? Will this transition period hurt him? Do they try to distance themselves now and try to move back to their traditional support? I think the time to decide is soon. Otherwise Trump can start hurting them in the mid-terms..
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+x+x+xHow much division will occur if Trump campaigns for 4 years questioning the democratic process? (If he losses and then runs for 2024) Hard to imagine Biden will still be president given his decline. Harris imo will still have to go up against M Obama imo.
Will we witness mass migration within the US? Assuming that Biden wins that will be the problem. He will be 78 when inaugurated this time. 82 in 4 years time and 86 and the end of that term. Biden has virtually put the Obama coalition back together. The Cubans in Florida came out for Trump by labelling dems Marxist. I think the only person that would have done a better job this time would have been Micelle Obama - but she was adamant she wouldn't stand. But therein lies the problem. Biden will have to expand the democratic coalition by delivering for the Trump supporters. Trump in this election has more supporters than any previous president. That is a lot of people that will go into the next four years thinking that the last 4 years was the first time anyone listened to them. Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren may have gotten more votes in California or NY - but they would have lost the mid-west. I can't imagine Biden running again but also do not think that Harris would necessarily win in 4 years time. That is the Democrats problem - this will be the dilemma for the Republicans. Assuming Trump is not in gaol, will Trump run again in 2024. If he does will it be as a Republican? He just got well north of 70M votes. How many of them are Republicans and how many are Trumpers? Does Trump stay with Fox or does or start his own platform or give his patronage to OANN? If he goes as an independent or Third Party candidate he can severely cripple the Republicans. Do they stay loyal to him in the hope that he sticks with them? Will this transition period hurt him? Do they try to distance themselves now and try to move back to their traditional support? I think the time to decide is soon. Otherwise Trump can start hurting them in the mid-terms.. If he becomes president expect to hear - God, blessing, grace, pray, healing, faith etc for the next 4 years coming out of Biden’s mouth.
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Saw this the other day. I do marvel at people's ingenuity.
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"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
The LBJ words that DJT lives by.
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What am I looking at?
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Biden’s a bit weird and touchy, think he’s been seen sniffing someones hair and has had two women accuse him of inappropriately touching them (not sexually). I don’t know who’s the iceberg
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That’s Kamala and Sleepy Joe about to be hit by Amy Coney Barrett
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+xThat’s Kamala and Sleepy Joe about to be hit by Amy Coney Barrett If you have to explain a meme to someone . Then the meme has lost its meaning
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+x+xThat’s Kamala and Sleepy Joe about to be hit by Amy Coney Barrett If you have to explain a meme to someone . Then the meme has lost its meaning Or the person doesn’t know what’s going on
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I don’t expect everyone to know everything
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+xI don’t expect everyone to know everything We all didn’t have a progressive left education But haven't our education systems been teaching us all marxist dogma for decades now?
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+x+xI don’t expect everyone to know everything We all didn’t have a progressive left education But haven't our education systems been teaching us all marxist dogma for decades now? I guess it comes down to how old you were when you started listening to rage against the machine. Either follow what they sing about or have your own opinion.
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The meme would be more accurate if the iceberg was Mitch instead.
I suspect the ACB outrage was a bit overhyped but we shall see.
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+xI don’t expect everyone to know everything We all didn’t have a progressive left education Kek -PB
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+xI don’t expect everyone to know everything We all didn’t have a progressive left education Yes.
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+x+x+xI don’t expect everyone to know everything We all didn’t have a progressive left education But haven't our education systems been teaching us all marxist dogma for decades now? I guess it comes down to how old you were when you started listening to rage against the machine. Either follow what they sing about or have your own opinion. Hate to shatter your increasingly narrow world view but I would stake my life on millions of Trump fans listening to RATM.
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+x+x+x+xI don’t expect everyone to know everything We all didn’t have a progressive left education But haven't our education systems been teaching us all marxist dogma for decades now? I guess it comes down to how old you were when you started listening to rage against the machine. Either follow what they sing about or have your own opinion. Hate to shatter your increasingly narrow world view but I would stake my life on millions of Trump fans listening to RATM. Yep... And then they complained when RATM "started" to become polical. https://www.openculture.com/2020/06/tom-morello-responds-to-fans-who-finally-realize-that-rage-against-the-machines-music-is-political.htmlAlso; 
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Hahaha. Sick burn.
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